Mueller vs Barr round 1

[TSA]

SR21 is explaining to you the legal aspect, you respond with an opinion. You're certainly en led to it, but it's wholly irrelevant to the legal matter at hand. It's important to understand the legal process in order to have an actual informed opinion.

As was explained when the case started, Congress is the only branch authorized of bringing impeachment proceedings to a sitting president. That is, charge him with one of the cons utionally enumerated offenses, try him, and reach a verdict, through a political process (how that process is conducted is strictly political, not controlled by the judiciary at all).

Considering that Mueller and his team did not have the authority to charge the president (even if, in arguendo, the evidence he collected during his investigation would purportedly point to any criminal activity from the sitting president), his job, as far as the president is concerned at least, was to investigate and relay his investigation findings to Congress. It is then up to Congress, starting with the House, to either bring impeachment charges or not.

Unlike what djohn has incorrectly repeated for a while, it was never Mueller's job to either charge or 'exonerate' the president. The investigation itself is a tool for Congress to make that decision. Because that's a political, not a judicial process, it's of the utmost importance that the investigation findings are clear, concise, and as public as they can be. Both because Congress has a big decision to make based on them, and because it provides the public with transparency for whatever Congress decides to do.

Hopefully it's more clear now.

It’s never a prosecutor’s job to exonerate someone, that was my point.

[TSA]

Dam the day the report came out you thought it was the best thing ever now it’s a smear giftwrapped for Democrats?

Are those two things mutually exclusive?

[spurraider21]

Are those two things mutually exclusive?

Most definitely

[DarrinS]

It’s never a prosecutor’s job to exonerate someone, that was my point.

Starting around 8:45.

[TSA]

Most definitely

Most definitely not. Trump was cleared of collusion with Russia and Dems will hang themselves chasing obstruction.

[spurraider21]

Most definitely not. Trump was cleared of collusion with Russia and Dems will hang themselves chasing obstruction.

you think mueller's obstruction report was ideal for trump? couldn't have possibly been more favorable?

[Pavlov]

It’s never a prosecutor’s job to exonerate someone, that was my point.

Then what was all that "unlawful exoneration" stuff you were going on about with other prosecutors?

[boutons_deux]

Trump was cleared of collusion with Russia

FALSE

Dems will hang themselves chasing obstruction

FALSE

[CosmicCowboy]

Trump was cleared of collusion with Russia

FALSE

Dems will hang themselves chasing obstruction

FALSE

After 2 years they found no evidence of collusion.

If dems think there was impeachable obstruction, then dems should shut the up and impeach him.

[Trainwreck2100]

I don't understand what all the bull is about Mueller's letter. Everything Mueller asked to be released "to give full context" has been released.

You don't understand why there is a letter dated March 27 about a report released April 18th?

[Spurs Homer]

Trump was cleared of collusion with Russia

FALSE

Dems will hang themselves chasing obstruction

FALSE

This



I believe that Barr curtailed Muellers investigation - illegally.

Then obstructed justice in so many other ways -

Sure -

trump and the Cult and Faux news propaganda team - go a yuge head start on their narrative -

but it will come out that Barr - as soon as he was confirmed - got Rosenstein to help him neuter the investigation


this is why you see Mueller looks like a genius when he displays indictments of the Russians and his work looks like a masterpiece -


then after Barr -


Mueller suddenly looks like a dunce novice who cannot compel trump or trump jr to testify, suddenly cannot connect simple dots tying the trump criminal family to obvious conspiracy to defraud, does NOT follow up on Jared's secret Russia backchannel -????


wtf????


No - this is all the handiwork of Barr - who was hired to throw a huge wrench on this entire investigation - and so far has succeeded -

but not for long.

[boutons_deux]

Pelosi says Barr comitted a crime by lying to Congress, impeachment or censure incoming.

[koriwhat]

This



I believe that Barr curtailed Muellers investigation - illegally.

Then obstructed justice in so many other ways -

Sure -

trump and the Cult and Faux news propaganda team - go a yuge head start on their narrative -

but it will come out that Barr - as soon as he was confirmed - got Rosenstein to help him neuter the investigation


this is why you see Mueller looks like a genius when he displays indictments of the Russians and his work looks like a masterpiece -


then after Barr -


Mueller suddenly looks like a dunce novice who cannot compel trump or trump jr to testify, suddenly cannot connect simple dots tying the trump criminal family to obvious conspiracy to defraud, does NOT follow up on Jared's secret Russia backchannel -????


wtf????


No - this is all the handiwork of Barr - who was hired to throw a huge wrench on this entire investigation - and so far has succeeded -

but not for long.

truth is no one gives a what you believe... lmao messageboard losers!

[Spurs Homer]

truth is no one gives a what you believe... lmao messageboard losers!

truth is ...

if you and i were being considered as any kind of choice or side to pick

you would be disqualified because of your goty calf tats


crofl

[TSA]

you think mueller's obstruction report was ideal for trump? couldn't have possibly been more favorable?

Ideal, no. Could it have been more favorable, yes. But neither of those make the two mutually exclusive.

You need to look at the long game Trump is and has been playing. When he declassifies the FISA apps and the true origin of how the investigation started is revealed you’ll understand why I said the Dems would hang themselves chasing obstruction.

[TSA]

This



I believe that Barr curtailed Muellers investigation - illegally.

Then obstructed justice in so many other ways -

Sure -

trump and the Cult and Faux news propaganda team - go a yuge head start on their narrative -

but it will come out that Barr - as soon as he was confirmed - got Rosenstein to help him neuter the investigation


this is why you see Mueller looks like a genius when he displays indictments of the Russians and his work looks like a masterpiece -


then after Barr -


Mueller suddenly looks like a dunce novice who cannot compel trump or trump jr to testify, suddenly cannot connect simple dots tying the trump criminal family to obvious conspiracy to defraud, does NOT follow up on Jared's secret Russia backchannel -????


wtf????


No - this is all the handiwork of Barr - who was hired to throw a huge wrench on this entire investigation - and so far has succeeded -

but not for long.

You are either the most delusional poster here or the best troll here. Either way

[koriwhat]

truth is ...

if you and i were being considered as any kind of choice or side to pick

you would be disqualified because of your goty calf tats


crofl

you know damn well you have no clue what you speak of here on ST but you continue on as if you do. it's hilarious seeing those just like you, here on ST, act high and mighty with their faux intellectual talking points.

2 wks in california and this board is more nuts than those i met in LA. go figure.

[Pavlov]

Ideal, no. Could it have been more favorable, yes. But neither of those make the two mutually exclusive.

You need to look at the long game Trump is and has been playing. When he declassifies the FISA apps and the true origin of how the investigation started is revealed you’ll understand why I said the Dems would hang themselves chasing obstruction.

Aaaaaand the ol' can is kicked down the road once more.

[koriwhat]

the Dems would hang themselves chasing obstruction.

those dumb s are chasing obstruction of justice for a crime that never even existed... it's comical really. then their pawns in the streets hold their noses high in the air as if they are worth a to begin with. bunch of losers!

[Spurminator]

You need to look at the long game Trump is and has been playing.

Still with this bull .

[Spurminator]

The game is wake up, react, spin, obstruct, delay, change the subject, outright lie if you must. Wait to see what happens tomorrow and do it again. That's it. That's your President.

If you still think he's some sort of secret genius puppet master after all this time, you're hopelessly deluded.

[Chris]

Good thing Trump has Barr to protect him from all that bad press or he would be in big trouble.

[Spurs Homer]

You are either the most delusional poster here or the best troll here. Either way

lets mark this post and see how stupid you will look moving the goalposts yet again

no grey area

barr illegally curtailed the mueller investigation - barr decided that the investigation should and would end - not mueller

mark my words

[Spurs Homer]

you know damn well you have no clue what you speak of here on ST but you continue on as if you do. it's hilarious seeing those just like you, here on ST, act high and mighty with their faux intellectual talking points.

2 wks in california and this board is more nuts than those i met in LA. go figure.

awesome

how did west hollywood react to your tats?

lololol

[TSA]

lets mark this post and see how stupid you will look moving the goalposts yet again

no grey area

barr illegally curtailed the mueller investigation - barr decided that the investigation should and would end - not mueller

mark my words