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    Listen, if you want to cheer for a player who asked for a trade because he wasn't getting enough touches on a 67-win team that reached the WCFs, that's on you, you're en led to cheer for whoever you want..

    IMO, that's the complete opposite of everything the Spurs stand for..a player who puts his stats over the team..if Kawhi hadn't quit on the Spurs and left, Aldridge would be viewed much differently in SA..
    So what's your point exactly? That LMA is a too, just not quite as big a ? Okay, cool. Point made. Kawhi still actively damaged the Spurs on his way out with his ty trade request/disappearing act.

    LMA asked for a trade because he didn't feel involved enough in the offense, but then worked it out with Pop like a man, and has played solid basketball since, earning a modi of respect back from the fanbase. He's no Duncan, but... who is?

    Also find it ridiculous how often people claim the Spurs are behind the times, won't cater to their stars, and that's why nobody wants to come play with them, why Kawhi left, etc. But if that's the case, how do you explain the Aldridge situation? And if they did indeed cater to him, isn't that by your own arguments a good thing? And if they did cater to Aldridge, it stands to reason they catered to Kawhi as well, and it was Kawhi who wasn't satisfied with it, because he wanted to go back to LA.

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    There is nothing wrong asking for a trade IMO. Is it a great look? No. But it’s not a fatal flaw. If kawhi would have done what LMA did, be a professional and a man and gone directly to Pop/RC and requested a trade in private while continuing to play good solider in front of the media, HE would be viewed differently
    This.

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    When's the last time you guys celebrated anything, you know, playoff victory related?

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    Listen, at the end of the day it all came down to miscommunication. Kawhi being a quitter, Pop being a dictator in the locker room is all bs narratives stemming from ONE THING. A lapse in communication between Kawhi's camp and Pop's staff. Looking at Uncle Dennis hugging is out with Masai Ujiri and Raptor's minority owner Larry Tanenbaum shows this.

    When you listen to Kawhi's camp things would have been smoother.

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    As Spurs fans, we celebrated players like Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili, men who never quit, sacrificed touches and accolades, as long as the team won..

    Now we're praising LaMarcus Aldridge for showing up after he asked for a trade and Pop having to baby him this must be what it's like to be a Hornets or Pacers fan..
    This just isn't the same franchise anymore. Duncan goes and Pop suddenly forgot what got him there: Taking care of his star and building around him.

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    They also got a severely crippled Joel Embiid.
    Embiid wasn't "severely crippled." He's just fat. He eats too much fast food instead of a healthy diet. Come playoff time, where you need to bring it on every possession, he can't keep up because he's so out-of-shape. All his crying after the game doesn't mean anything unless he proves how much he cares by showing up in shape next season and going on a diet.

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    This just isn't the same franchise anymore. Duncan goes and Pop suddenly forgot what got him there: Taking care of his star and building around him.
    The narrative here is he was gone anyway in fa to la.The question is was the supermax ever really offered to kawhi

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    Embiid wasn't "severely crippled." He's just fat. He eats too much fast food instead of a healthy diet. Come playoff time, where you need to bring it on every possession, he can't keep up because he's so out-of-shape. All his crying after the game doesn't mean anything unless he proves how much he cares by showing up in shape next season and going on a diet.
    Yes, that's a problem. So was the pneumonia, or severe upper respiratory infection (heard it described both ways) he had that was reportedly so bad they had to shut down film sessions during this series because he was coughing so bad. He also had a bad knee. And then on top of that he had some sort of gastrointestinal issue.

    He had the trifecta of ty health and yet the Sixers still took them to a 4 rim bounce buzzer beating game seven loss on the road. The Sixers were far from a great team especially with Embiid so challenged.

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    You got to love the national media lapping this up. It's funny, they're disgusted by Butler and Davis, but in love with this s bag (who by the way, played an atrocious, Bryant style game 7 and got lucky at the end to survive a clearly inferior opponent). This league has become a joke. As long as you screw over a franchise they hate and it benefits one they love, you're a god.

    I'd love nothing more than for the Bucks to emasculate the Raptors, but as I've said for a long time, unfortunately, I think the latter is going to the Finals, will have a legit shot to win it, the puke will stay and the Spurs will become infamous . . . but they partially deserve it for their stupidity to put him in this situation when the return was beyond pathetic.


    I still think he's a lock to go to the Clippers, but wouldn't be shocking anymore if he stayed in Toronto..seemed unthinkable before the season, but the way they've handled his load management and catered to Dennis at least gives them a real chance(along with the money)..
    That makes no sense. If you think he's a lock to leave, then by definition you should be shocked if he stays.

    It was never unthinkable. I had a bad feeling from the start (don't get the Spurs fans who either prefer he re-signs or don't care either way). They were always going to bend over backwards to please him (anyone in their situation would have) and it was always going to be an appealing setup . . .

    - They were always going at least this far and when they did, he was always getting the majority of the credit (not the "culture", "system" or some senile president/coach).
    - He was never going to be as beloved here as Ginobili, Duncan or Robinson; there, despite hockey eternally being #1, he'll be treated as a king.
    - The hierarchy and fit on their roster is ideal. He doesn't have to deal with another player even near his stature, yet they're still good enough to contend.
    - Because his only previous experience was here and he's an introvert to put it mildly, he probably thinks the "freedom" they've given him and the way they've catered to him, is unique.

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    This is all euphoria, but at the end of the day, Jerry West is a ing closer. He got Shaq out of Orlando, and he got KD out of OKC.

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    This is all euphoria, but at the end of the day, Jerry West is a ing closer. He got Shaq out of Orlando, and he got KD out of OKC.
    He doesn’t even have to close here. This is where Kawhi’s team wants Kawhi. They are pushing him there. It’s not like The Clippers have to sell Kawhi; his team is sold.

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    When's the last time you guys celebrated anything, you know, playoff victory related?
    What you talking about son? I been celebrating with the Dubs (Lakers North) for a minute. Try to keep up

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    If Dennis has any business sense, he'll take advantage of this..

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    Never complained even one word publicly. We don't know he was upset with his touches for his stats or for just being involved in the game flow. We do know that Kawhi had a case of Load Management and Return from Injury Management. We know he hid from his training staff and made Pop track him down across the country just to have a sitdown meeting with him. We know he didn't show up on the bench once after his heroic 9 games, even during the playoffs (Aldridge single handedly carried us to), he was cleared to play in. You are on the wrong side of the debate here Harlem. And it's not even close.
    Sic this pusssss

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    Love how Kawhi is now actively trying to push 2018 as an injury rather than a quit job. Funny how he is forced to talk now that he’s playing again versus ducking everybody for an entire year

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    This is all euphoria, but at the end of the day, Jerry West is a ing closer. He got Shaq out of Orlando, and he got KD out of OKC.
    Not really...Orlando didn't want to pony up the loot. The Lakers did. Shaq was all about the money.

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    Kawhi lost trust in the Spurs, he figured out this team aren't going anywhere as long as Pop with his still running this thing, he had all the reasons to rightfully wanting to leave this ed up place... All the crying about kawhi didn't respect the Spurs and didn't leave the right way, it's all spins, it's all bs, fans should cherish kawhi and keep supporting him, just accept kawhi didn't want to sacrifice his future to this bad karma place and Pop madness...

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    So what's your point exactly? That LMA is a too, just not quite as big a ? Okay, cool. Point made. Kawhi still actively damaged the Spurs on his way out with his ty trade request/disappearing act.
    Yes, that's my point..

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    Love how Kawhi is now actively trying to push 2018 as an injury rather than a quit job. Funny how he is forced to talk now that he’s playing again versus ducking everybody for an entire year
    Yup.He had a career threatening injury that was misdiagnosed and his teammates were mean to him

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    Yup.He had a career threatening injury that was misdiagnosed and his teammates were mean to him
    His teammates that he siphoned an entire career and a championship out of. Two if he didn't miss critical free throws. Like he did this past game.

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    So you want DM to be the number 1 option on the team? How did that work out in Toronto in the playoffs? Who else could it be? Mills? White? The 2 top paid guys get the most shots. Gee you don't say...
    No, I wanted that, when we had a real number one, LA wouldn't have pouted for getting less touches than him. I want to know that, if we ever get another real number one, LA would be cool with becoming a second option without asking out.

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    What you talking about son? I been celebrating with the Dubs (Lakers North) for a minute. Try to keep up
    At least you admit your wanderings. Congrats on being a .

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    Not really...Orlando didn't want to pony up the loot. The Lakers did. Shaq was all about the money.
    The only difference in the contracts was that LA literally paid him up front every year, a loophole that's now been closed. That er was the only player that got paid during the '99 lockout.

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