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In that case it seems like a Spurs guy. Someone who has something that made him fall where then becomes a value.
Disagree in that it wasn't a surprise. While everyone knew he wasn't long, a 6-foot-8 wingspan has to hurt his stock. And that 8-foot-6 standing reach might hurt even more.
I scrolled through 17 years of combine results and there was no big who made it in the league with a wingspan that short. And even the few bigs who had a wingspan less than 6-foot-11 had much better standing reach numbers. , Bonner's wingspan was only 6-foot-8.75 but he had a standing reach of 8-foot-9.5 -- three and a half inches higher than Clarke. Other examples of short-armed bigs: Trevor Booker 6-foot-9.75 wingspan, 8-foot-10 standing reach. Kelly Olynyk 6-foot-9.75 wingspan, 9-foot standing reach.
I'm not saying Clarke is doomed -- the league has changed, obviously, and theoretically allows for bigs who can mask a lack of length with mobility -- but it has to make any team that is considering drafting him think twice, IMO.
In that case it seems like a Spurs guy. Someone who has something that made him fall where then becomes a value.
6'8" (w/ shoes), 207 lbs., 6'8" wingspan, 8'6" standing reach, 23 years old, can't shoot for 19th pick? Pass pass pass.
Length does matter more now in today's phasing of the game.
I'm not saying he ain't good but I rather have someone who has a better potential for 19th pick.
I don't think historical data on bigs will be as relevant in the future compared to that for perimeter players. The league is getting smaller. I'm not saying that it wouldn't be great for Clarke to have measured at seven-foot plus, but he manages to be an elite shot-blocker and finisher despite apparently playing against bigger guys his whole career. I get that it's one more legit criticism to lump on Clarke's plate that was already full due to his age and lack of shooting. It makes him falling to 19 or even 29 way more possible. But not for a minute do I think he won't be able to overcome it. His impact will probably be heavily tied to his athleticism, but I think he's still going to pay huge dividends on that first contract.
Still, Clarke probably won't be helped by the combine unless he shows off new skills. We already believe that he's athletic as , so him crushing those numbers won't help, and him doing anything less than that is probably a ship-sinker. He had a great year and a legit amount of hype going on. If guys like Hachimura and Thybulle can pull out, Clarke probably should have.
Alot of mocks have us taking this guy
Spurs love older players. So at least one year in Austin he will then be 24 at the earliest before he says any playing time with the Spurs.
I'd be disappointed if we take him with the 19th pick. Would much rather have Kabengele
Clarke doesn’t have length but in college he has demonstrated elite reading position and movement, great elevation and phenomenally quick ability to get off the ground and which I think compensated for a fair amount of length. I also think that given the improvement on the mechanics of his shot last year there’s continued room for improvement. Lots of pundits have him going to Minny and that would be a nice combination with Towns.
Being that small a wingspan is a surprise, but it makes an even bigger deal of his athleticism and defensive instincts... As I said before, if you think he can develop a reasonable jumper, he looks a strong prospect at the 3 or small ball 4. If you don't, he's at best second string 4/5.
This news makes him more likely to fall to us, for certain. If anyone can develop his shot, Chip probably has the best chance...
Definitely prefer drafting at #19 in the mold of Murray/Lonnie with incredibly high ceiling. This guy doesn’t fit that
yeah, out of the first round!
Looks to be on his way to being the best athlete at the combine. Not too much of a surprise; should keep him somewhere in the middle of the first round.
This guy would be the guy I’d pick at our spot. Dude was a beast in the tournament.
6'8" 207 lbs w/ a 6'8 wingspan at the PF position is not good... and he can't shoot for . I liked his Defense and jumping ability at Zaga, but those measurements and lack of shooting are not something I'm yearning for if I'm an NBA team.
Yeah, his age is also an issue. By the time he's done learning the ropes in Austin, he'll be 25 when he joins the main team. Might as well take 19 year old Nassir Little instead - just as much of an athlete but with a legit wingspan and youth on his side. Lot less skilled but Spurs are nowhere near contention anyway so you might as well use the next couple years developing someone while Demar and Aldridge are wasting everybody's time with their annual post-season chokejobs. Their contracts expire in two years which will allow him to join the main roster.
So far Clarke has posted the best standing vert, max vert, lane agility time and second best shuttle run.
Damn good athlete status: Confirmed
Little won't be available at 19.. He's a top-18 pick for sure.
Yeah I agree, i don't think it's a good fit with our team to say the least.
Interestingly, he's being listed at the combine as a small forward on all the paperwork. Not even a SF/PF hybrid.
Sounds like wishful thinking unless he has revamped his game in the last couple months.
If he had any kind of range he'd be pretty interesting
Sounds ambitious but if you are a team that thinks he can develop a decent jumper and play the 3 then he moves up the big board quite a few spots. If I was scout I would have to see something at the combine that I didn't see at Gonzaga, granted I haven't watched a lot of him. The games I did see he looked a lot closer to a C than SF
Noted; just observing that the knock on Randle translating was his wingspan:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbn...-prospect-2013
They know he hasn't re-tooled anything. It's what I said about him from the beginning - he's a PF that's too small to play PF at the next level. His bounce will help, but he's still going to get moved off his spot constantly. So they're marketing him as a SF because that's the body he's got. At the very best, there's a long learning curve there.
I liked Kyle Anderson a lot better as a 4 than Clarke.
He had ridiculous combine results. No way he's dropping out of the lottery
Spurs actually usually draft 1st or second year players.
Blair-Sophmore
Cojo-Freshman
Cold Nephew- Sophmore
Anderson-Sophmore
Murray-Freshman
Walker-Freshman
George Hill and White were seniors but they usually take a young player, put him in the G league for a year for seasoning and then the second year is usually when they get some minutes and then year 3 is when they really crack the rotation.
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