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    A leader doesn't hide. Spurs couldn't even reach Kawhi when he went to China to send their security, etc. People say it was miscommunication, but it was Kawhi who wasn't reachable. Spurs always tried to communicate
    This is true.. If Aldridge could have a talk and repair things, so could Kawhi. I believe the Spurs did enough for him to earn that respect.. But judging from what we saw that season he was nowhere to be found.

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    manu would likely still think he was right if he were to have seen leonard playing through the pain this past series because he would have thought this is what he should have done at some point last season. but chances are manu isn't even watching so there's that.
    ouch...your consecutio temporum gives me headaches

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    This is true.. If Aldridge could have a talk and repair things, so could Kawhi. I believe the Spurs did enough for him to earn that respect.. But judging from what we saw that season he was nowhere to be found.
    Exactly

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    Just join the raptors bandwagon formally already - why the do you continue to post here?

    Go yourself and stop pretending you are some kind of spurs fan.

    The piece of quitter betrayed this franchise.

    All he had to do was stfu for ONE SEASON - and then turn down the spurs offer and go play wherever the he wanted.

    Instead he took a FULL PAYCHECK

    and sat like a pussy in hiding - with no ing balls to face little tony parker and skinny ass manu and midget patty -

    and then hid for a full ing season. This - will NEVER EVER EVER -

    make anyone respect that piece of prima donna.

    I hated KOBE's ass more than any player in history - but that rapist would have sucked it up after the ZAZA incident and played the entire series.

    I hate the warriors more than any team in history - and I refuse to root for them to win over the quitter -

    but I also refuse to support or root for this piece of quitter and I hope he has a career ending REAL injury.

    As a matter of fact - here is the ultimate scenario in the finals.

    That Draymond, Curry, Durant & Kawhi all go for a loose ball and collide and all four suffer career ending injuries -

    but that is not all -

    I hope that while you are watching this - you choke on your goddamn tacos -

    and end up in intensive care - and that Kawhi hears about your story and a reporter suggests he visit you in the hospital -

    and the quitter refuses to go and just says - " that dik sucker"

    go yourself you piece of kawhi ball licker.
    Can't approve your hate but you made me laugh a lot, thanks

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    There is a new story on the Lakers dysfunction on ESPN today, which gives greater context on what occurred during the Magic/Pelinka regime. So, why can't we get the same kind of story on the Kawhi saga? This secrecy makes absolutely no sense. Even if RC and Pop deny it, so what. You get credible sources and build your story. That's journalism 101.

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    This is true.. If Aldridge could have a talk and repair things, so could Kawhi. I believe the Spurs did enough for him to earn that respect.. But judging from what we saw that season he was nowhere to be found.
    There was zero reason for Aldridge to be that upset. He was on b2b 60 win teams, the whole point of him coming to SA was the chance to win knowing that it could impact his stats. If he wanted to be the #1 option he should have gone to Phoenix but then again he would have just ed when Booker became the guy.

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    There is a new story on the Lakers dysfunction on ESPN today, which gives greater context on what occurred during the Magic/Pelinka regime. So, why can't we get the same kind of story on the Kawhi saga? This secrecy makes absolutely no sense. Even if RC and Pop deny it, so what. You get credible sources and build your story. That's journalism 101.
    Just because the Laker organization is completely dysfunctional and full of backbiting and gossip doesn't mean SA is, or needs to be like that. It's one of the reasons that the media likes them: there's always a snitch ready to tell on someone.

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    There was zero reason for Aldridge to be that upset. He was on b2b 60 win teams, the whole point of him coming to SA was the chance to win knowing that it could impact his stats. If he wanted to be the #1 option he should have gone to Phoenix but then again he would have just ed when Booker became the guy.
    There was absolutely reason to be upset IMO. The difference is how he went about handling his issue. Pop wanted to play him in the same mold as he would have with an aging Duncan, and it wasn't working for Aldridge. Instead of complaining to ESPN analysts "anonymously" through his agent, he walked in to Pop's office and walked out with a new commitment to the team, and a reassurance of minor tweaks to the age old system to maximize his talents.

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    There is a new story on the Lakers dysfunction on ESPN today, which gives greater context on what occurred during the Magic/Pelinka regime. So, why can't we get the same kind of story on the Kawhi saga? This secrecy makes absolutely no sense. Even if RC and Pop deny it, so what. You get credible sources and build your story. That's journalism 101.
    The Laker stories coming out has a lot to do with Magic stepping down. So all the sources are spilling (especially after Magic's recent interview). Maybe when Pop retires and if Kawhi is still relevant on the national stage we'll get more details.

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    There was absolutely reason to be upset IMO. The difference is how he went about handling his issue. Pop wanted to play him in the same mold as he would have with an aging Duncan, and it wasn't working for Aldridge. Instead of complaining to ESPN analysts "anonymously" through his agent, he walked in to Pop's office and walked out with a new commitment to the team, and a reassurance of minor tweaks to the age old system to maximize his talents.
    The Spurs having a system and Aldridge needing to adjust his play style to fit wasn't anything new. Aldridge just refused to commit (or wasn't capable) to the adjustment. So why come to SA if he just wanted to be the #1 option and play his way? It's basically like the CP3 situation now, he's ing about Harden being ball dominant when everyone knew that Harden was a ball dominant player.

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    Good heavens, fellow, let's keep the lying down to a dull roar, ok?

    https://www.nba.com/article/2017/08/...ademy-zhejiang



    See the link for the entire article.

    And if you're going to post lies to try to advance your case, at least try to make them a little less flaming, howling stupid, ok?
    Ok, I read the entire article. Where, exactly, does it say that the Spurs organization was able to communicate & coordinate with Kawhi about the trip? Or are you the one posting flaming, howling, stupid lies to advance your case?

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    Just because the Laker organization is completely dysfunctional and full of backbiting and gossip doesn't mean SA is, or needs to be like that. It's one of the reasons that the media likes them: there's always a snitch ready to tell on someone.
    What are you talking about? This is the biggest controversy in Spurs history so it demands a full account. For whatever reason, Wright & ESPN are holding the story, which is unprecedented in sports journalism.

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    The Laker stories coming out has a lot to do with Magic stepping down. So all the sources are spilling (especially after Magic's recent interview). Maybe when Pop retires and if Kawhi is still relevant on the national stage we'll get more details.
    There were already many stories of the Lakers dysfunction prior to Magic stepping down so that's not it.

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    Ok, I read the entire article. Where, exactly, does it say that the Spurs organization was able to communicate & coordinate with Kawhi about the trip? Or are you the one posting flaming, howling, stupid lies to advance your case?
    Guy, it was an official NBA trip, with a published itinerary. There was nothing for the Spurs to coordinate. The NBA handled it. Are you nothing but a lying, howling, stupid, ignorant, headed fool who can't even read?

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    What are you talking about? This is the biggest controversy in Spurs history so it demands a full account. For whatever reason, Wright & ESPN are holding the story, which is unprecedented in sports journalism.
    They don't owe you any kind of accounting. That's not how they operate, and you should know that by now.

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    They don't owe you any kind of accounting. That's not how they operate, and you should know that by now.
    It's called journalism. Look it up.

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    It's obviously in the Spurs benefit not to talk anymore. They can't get anything else out of it. Unless Lenard has a deal with Toronto, he probably doesn't want the truth out either. The group is probably happy they can just present their side with contest.

    There's no real journalism at ESPN. It's all press release based image management.

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    It's obviously in the Spurs benefit not to talk anymore. They can't get anything else out of it. Unless Lenard has a deal with Toronto, he probably doesn't want the truth out either. The group is probably happy they can just present their side with contest.

    There's no real journalism at ESPN. It's all press release based image management.

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    I would wonder why he "supposedly" changed. Why he "wasn't a leader or anything" on the Spurs and now he's "suddenly" a leader on other team?

    How a player changed that much in just a few months? Or he was always the same guy but people didn't want to recognize his leadership way just because he left the team?
    Once the big 3 passed the baton over to Leonard, he failed to show any leadership. Hiding behind your wannabe agent uncle's skirts and letting him speak for you two years later shows no leadership what so ever.

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    ouch...your consecutio temporum gives me headaches
    thanks. it's an homage to both archy the roach and leopold bloom at the same time.

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    Guy, it was an official NBA trip, with a published itinerary. There was nothing for the Spurs to coordinate. The NBA handled it. Are you nothing but a lying, howling, stupid, ignorant, headed fool who can't even read?
    I don't think the nba works the way you think.
    The NBA just says to player X, here are the events,
    1) Media conference at 123 Wang Shou street in Beijing at 0900 to 1500 local on the 22nd of August 2017
    2) Youth player camp at ....
    etc

    They don't organize the players travel, accomodations, routine, what other meetings are going on, etc, etc. They don't care how the player does it, just that he shows up at the obligations... So all that organization and coordination need to happen. When the team isn't involved and looking after their high value assets (players), occasionally bad things happen, eg. Kawhi having to walk through Mardi Gras to attend the all-star game, or worse, the Jay Williams story. Not to mention that this is going on in the planning stages of the offseason, so if SAS wants to consult their "face of the franchise" about a decision that needs making, how do they reach him? So yeah, big corporation really likes being able to communicate and coordinate with it's biggest (and extremely well compensated) assets.

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    The Spurs having a system and Aldridge needing to adjust his play style to fit wasn't anything new. Aldridge just refused to commit (or wasn't capable) to the adjustment. So why come to SA if he just wanted to be the #1 option and play his way? It's basically like the CP3 situation now, he's ing about Harden being ball dominant when everyone knew that Harden was a ball dominant player.
    It's an irrelevant point considering how he went about handling it. He was unhappy, but was open to fixing it. Can't ask for much more.

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    It's obviously in the Spurs benefit not to talk anymore. They can't get anything else out of it. Unless Lenard has a deal with Toronto, he probably doesn't want the truth out either. The group is probably happy they can just present their side with contest.

    There's no real journalism at ESPN. It's all press release based image management.

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    Good heavens, fellow, let's keep the lying down to a dull roar, ok?

    https://www.nba.com/article/2017/08/...ademy-zhejiang



    See the link for the entire article.

    And if you're going to post lies to try to advance your case, at least try to make them a little less flaming, howling stupid, ok?
    listen to the Michael C. Wright Podcast stupid, Spurs lost contact to Leonard on the China trip. An official NBA statement doesn't have anything to do with the Spurs. Spurs security wasn't even with him. Matter of fact Spurs couldn't even reach Kawhi later down the line when they were in the SAME BUILDING in NY

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    Spurs fans throwing at Spurs players blaming them for Kawhi are garbage.. The whole team was busting their ass off to get the Spurs in the POs while dat pos Kawhi was in NY doing "rehab", Kawhi never showed support neither sit on the bench rooting for his teammates.. and people are blaming the players who were mad after passing one season hearing the star of the team will come back then cancel then announce he will back then cancel.. rinse and repeat ?

    gtofh tbh.. Manu, TP, Pop, FO.. have been soft calling out this mother er.

    The my teammates and FO were mean to me that's why I wanted to leave meme is pure bull

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