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But then Spurs have leverage...
If Spurs still trade him to Toronto you could ask for more because thecyears were secured... I thought the argument was Spurs had no leverage since he was bolting to Clippers?!
It could have been worse. Spurs could have sucked up to him, gave him his supermax, and he still asks for a trade demand. So instead of Kawhi losing out on $100 million, he gets to eat the cake too. That is way worse.
But then Spurs have leverage...
If Spurs still trade him to Toronto you could ask for more because thecyears were secured... I thought the argument was Spurs had no leverage since he was bolting to Clippers?!
Yup and owners and teams are so desperate for just the chance at a top 3 player that he could have ed the Spurs even worse and still had suitors because talent out weighs everything.
I could definitely have seen them pulling that move though, as most people not in the mainstream media believe forcing KL off the Spurs was the plan from the beginning that why didn't the "group" scheme themselves into the Super Max and then play the injury card. Not that it matters now but could that mean maybe the plan wasn't as set in stone as we all thought it was? Instead of playing 1 season out of 2 he could have pulled the same and play about 1.5 out of 3. Is there some kind of injury clause in super max contracts, because if there is then I guess I have my answer already.
I hardly doubt the group was so worried that it would strip his next team of too much talent, look at all the talent he has around him now and they're still gonna bolt? Anyways like we all know, this whole picture will get so much clearer once he signs or leaves that I'm not even sure why I continue to waste time speculating about it when judgement day is around the corner.
The Spurs had no leverage. That's why they took whatever they could realistically get. Props to Toronto for making a very unpopular deal (at the time) that has paid off (hindsight)
And editing here... other teams who didn't want to do what Toronto did now are paying the price... (hint: Boston, Philly, Lakers, etc)
For real, at least Philly had a decent run. But Boston and especially the Lakers if they really didn't wan't to give up the "Farm" for what turns out to be a guy with the same ailment that ended Bosh's career, two ok to decent players and some picks that prob wouldn't amount to anyways. I'll take my chances with Kawhi and Lebron over "potential" any day.
The “DDR was the best we could do” narrative goes out the window if the Raps ring
this "narrative" never existed tbh
Exactly this
I agree, I'm in the minority who thought the Spurs would win in '17 and think the Raptors are going to win. The Spurs in general will look stupid regardless since despite the reasons right or wrong they lost a top 2 player and the media has completely ran with the "Spurs were at fault and this is Kawhi's triumphant return story." We might as well get used to that being the narrative for as long as the Spurs continue to suck, but any combination of Saric, Covington, Tobias Harris (who during the playoffs especially showed he's not much of a difference maker) and whoever else was floated would lead us in the same direction we're already in.
If those were the only options I think I would rather we just get rid of the whole team besides White and DJ hopefully and try and start from scratch.
This is an outrage! It's unacceptable. It undoes all 5 les. It's like they never happened. All the joy is gone. There's nothing left but pain. Pain, for a long, long time.
Lakers could not get Kawhi no matter what was offered... Not sure why Spurs fan who are closest to the reporting can't get that... Boston preferred to save their war chest for AD LOL ... Philly no excuses for them abd Kawhi made them pay
Some still argue you had no leverage... Which is horse .
No matter if Kawhi stays or goes Raptors win le
It was a horse trade. DD is a fringe all star and poetl a solid potential young big.
They are solid pieces, no one denies that but for Kawhi?! Come on, sons.
Can somebody come check on they mans? I’m worried tbh
Sure it didn't ...
milking him? wft you smokin over there dude? he refused to play after being cleared and left the city
Fans are for watching this terrible version of basketball talent
I still find it funny that the Spurs went from a class organization one of the best in all of sports better than the patriots because we didn't cheat but all the sudden the narrative has become and becoming even worse. The Spurs were fools to ditch kawitter....the Spurs treated him badly .....the Spurs made a bad trade....all this crap is just the media controlling the narrative taking a malcontent mute sensitive quitter and rewriting it into kawitter the hero climbing mount Olympus overcoming the big bad terrible Spurs to prove he can rise from the ashes and win a championship after all the terrible treatment he received in San Antonio. He freed himself from a terrible organization and thought the Spurs a lesson.
its all horse . Spurs did the best they could and tried to keep compe ive with the trade they made. Teams played hardball Spurs took best available offer to keep relevant. When has this orginization ever been known as anything but classy and a well oiled machine?? So what makes anyone think kawitter didn't have an altering motive or just sensitive. He sat there could care less about the team and literally stole 19 million dollars. But if he chips he is a hero????
everything that is wrong in this country in a nuts . Media controls the narrative and people just follow like a cult.
Ya well put. Posted the same in Kawhi thread.
He playing through pain now but couldnt do it for the team that set him up for 6 years and rehabbed all season on their dime. Then to really screw the team demanded a trade , at the same hurting his trade value to force acertain destination . A selfish me-first prick comes to mind.
The media is desperate for another star that they can pump money out of now that Lebron is getting old. They are testing out the waters to see if #2 can be that guy who can generate ratings and revenue for them. They are also hoping he will go to LA. I guarantee that he would not be getting the type of love he is getting now if he had decided to be a Spur for life.
They had leverage if they timed it right. They waited too long to make the final decision that he needed to be traded. They should have traded him no later than draft night.
This is such a juvenile way of looking at it... Playing through pain now doesn't mean that it would have been the same then... Different scenarios...
If the player is asking for a trade to a team in "LA" and no one really knows how healthy he is, and hasn't played in a year, then no team, Spurs or otherwise have any realistic leverage. Therefore, they've got back whatever they could get. It's known they tried to get better pieces (on paper) from other teams but no one played ball - and doing that shopping took some valuable time and delayed things quite a bit.
It is said other teams who could have participated weren't ready to trade their best for two main reasons: 1) no real understanding of how healthy he was, and 2) didn't know whether he would stay and sign after one year
I'm still shocked/surprised the Spurs managed to get 2 players and a pick with these constraints, and one of the players in DDR is actually pretty good. Of course a lot of things happened, they are new and there were injuries in the roster but the FO has an opportunity to do something this summer and get this team to a better place.
All the name-calling and stupid you read in this site comes from know-nothing elements that can be ignored most of the time.
The Ignore option can be a beautiful thing sometimes.
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