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    If the team can get rid of Beli at least, I can live with this. I'm with Chinook's point, the Gay signing only looks really bad if the Spurs go the old "oh we like what we have." I still don't think Murray and an improved Lonnie alone can mask the flaws of the rest of the roster. There's too many useless vets that are getting in the way of the younger guys.
    Man that's exactly where I'm at. Too many people in the way of Walker, Murray and White. Let those young horses run and get rid of the deadweight in front of them.

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    It's quite an overpay for him. Keeping him is nice, no more than 2 years is nice, but as the free agency period has drawn closer I doubt the market was there at more than 2/24. Classic 12:01 Spurs.

    What impact could this have on the Murray extension?

    Spurs will have a hard time convincing Rich Paul to take anything reasonable now. No way Murray takes less than 20 a year when an old, crumbling Gay gets 16. Even coming off the ACL.

    Kind of how it made it hard for the Spurs to try and cheapskate down Kawhi from a super Max when they're giving $50 million to an unplayable Mills and paper $48 to a washed Pau.
    Murray was going to want more than this regardless. He's not signing an extension for less than $20M APY, I'd guess. Plus, the Spurs probably believe Gay is better than Murray and won't struggle to justify paying him a lot.

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    Very glad this happened. Rudy saved the Spurs’ bacon numerous times last season.

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    Good to see most people in here get it. The people complaining about the money don’t understand how the cap works.

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    I see a trade coming in January.

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    That post Big 3 era reality. "Rudy Gay saved us from being no lower than a 7th seed in the West. He had to be brought back."

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    I’m not sure if this is making lemonade or polishing a turd, so to speak. Ultimately, I call it a success based on the years. And on the macro level, it is cool how he has transformed from a low to high efficiency player. I never thought that would happen with him.

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    That post Big 3 era reality. "Rudy Gay saved us from being no lower than a 7th seed in the West. He had to be brought back."
    Imagine how this board would have reacted in 2014 if we said our core in a few years would be DD/LMA Touches/ and post-ruptured achilles Rudy Gay.

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    Those $32 million guaranteed?

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    That post Big 3 era reality. "Rudy Gay saved us from being no lower than a 7th seed in the West. He had to be brought back."
    People like to overrate the Big 3 years. From the last le in 07 to the first year of Kawhi the Big 3 while winning 50 games a year were still a mediocre team in the playoffs until they got Kawhi.

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    You know it's a good deal when ST is raging.

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    We need a good long look at the list of 2021 FAs.

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    People like to overrate the Big 3 years. From the last le in 07 to the first year of Kawhi the Big 3 while winning 50 games a year were still a mediocre team in the playoffs until they got Kawhi.
    Because this FO consistently failed to put decent pieces around an aging core. The Big 3 wasn't overrated all that much...It was this FO.

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    People like to overrate the Big 3 years. From the last le in 07 to the first year of Kawhi the Big 3 while winning 50 games a year were still a mediocre team in the playoffs until they got Kawhi.
    Tru... RJ and Blair as starters...

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    Because this FO consistently failed to put decent pieces around an aging core. The Big 3 wasn't overrated all that much...It was this FO.
    Fair point

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    People like to overrate the Big 3 years. From the last le in 07 to the first year of Kawhi the Big 3 while winning 50 games a year were still a mediocre team in the playoffs until they got Kawhi.
    Umm but Duncan and Manu are special, generational kinds of players. And Parker had a winning mentality. They may not have had more championships but their ceiling was higher and their at udes were infinitely better than Aldridge ing about not getting his touches or Derozan not being mentally strong. This current crop of vets on the Spurs is nothing to write home about. Murray/White/Walker can't take over soon enough. The fact that Rudy gay is our savior says a lot right now.

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    Tru... RJ and Blair as starters...
    Even thought they were winning 50 games I really hated those spurs teams from 08-11. I hated the 62 win team in 2010-2011 the most.

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    Matt Bonner, RJ, Blair, Kurt Thomas, ancient McDyess, Roger Mason, Keith Bogans....C'mon, man...

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    Spurs from 08 - 11 >>>>> the Spurs of the last two seasons tbh.

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    Matt Bonner, RJ, Blair, Kurt Thomas, ancient McDyess, Roger Mason, Keith Bogans....C'mon, man...
    You can list any team and their history of bad players...

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    Umm but Duncan and Manu are special, generational kinds of players. And Parker had a winning mentality. They may not have had more championships but their ceiling was higher and their at udes were infinitely better than Aldridge ing about not getting his touches or Derozan not being mentally strong. This current crop of vets on the Spurs is nothing to write home about. Murray/White/Walker can't take over soon enough. The fact that Rudy gay is our savior says a lot right now.
    Like I said revisionist history. They were gentleman swept by the Mavs in 09. Swet by the ing Suns in 10 and the worst of all beat in 6 as a 1 seed in 2011. Those years were horrible.

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    Murray was going to want more than this regardless. He's not signing an extension for less than $20M APY, I'd guess. Plus, the Spurs probably believe Gay is better than Murray and won't struggle to justify paying him a lot.
    Maybe an overreaction on my part

    But I can see it now, the Spurs still trying to cheap out on Murray (even justifiably).

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    You can list any team and their history of bad players...
    Yeah like DD, Rudy Gay, washed up Belli, washed up Mills, washed up Gasol, Dante Cunningham, Quincy Pondexter...See a trend? A FO that consistently makes moves until they luck out in the draft.

    The last good signing this team made was Boris Diaw in 2012.

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    32 mill for a 32 year old player who is a trash playoff performer.

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    JJ Re to the Pelicans on 2-yr/$26.5M deal. David Griffin's not messing around.

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