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Spurs are dumb, but not that dumb. I hope.
Westbrook is under contract for 44mil$ in 2022 and 47mil$ in 2023 at age 32-33.That's enough to make me sick without even thinking about trade scenarios.
Spurs are dumb, but not that dumb. I hope.
I don’t want Westbrook but I can see why SA would be intrigued. I hope they stay disciplined though and keep the youth. If it were something like DeRozan/Beli or Mills and a pick with no youth I would understand, but even then I would not want it.
If it were Mills/DeRozan for Russ, then the money is basically a wash for 2 years. I can see SA wanting to pay Russ the money allocated to Mills/DeRozan. But then it’s the extra 2 years for Russ after the next two seasons that is the big deal.
If they don’t like the 21/22 free agents, then maybe, but that is an insane contract even if there is no slippage in his play.
I really hope its the opposite; maybe OKC would be willing to pair DeRozan with Russ and keep things going there? They have a ton of picks and something centered around Gallo + Picks would be great.
Last edited by DPG21920; 07-07-2019 at 09:02 PM.
If we have to trade with OKC, I'd rather it be Beli for Nerlens Noel.
How old is Westbrook now? I thought he was older, so if he's only 33 in 2023, that is not as bad as a thought age wise, however, age doesn't delete his game.
The guy is a beast and in the Spurs system with pop it could really work....he would have to break defenses down and do more of the kick outs and assist teammates rather than wild uncontrollable shots there was a time pop had to coral Manu on that stuff....but he would have the support here of teammates being able to knock down jumpers drive and kick would be awesome with Russ and when needed he can score at will not to mention Spurs would have some young fast slashers benefitting from his breaking down the defense. I get the hate for greed and stat padding but if pop can tell him show him look obviously you can kill it with assists you will get your points but make sure first thought is to facilitate for your mates.
Moving on.....even with his crap contract let's face it the Spurs will always struggle getting top notch free agents but even so in two years while we still hope he is effective and absorbed the team aspect LA MIlls (if he isn't part of this trade) Gay and Morris if option kicks in all drop off so there would be some money open. I'm not a DD hater but he just doesn't look right here he still seems spacey still seems culture shocked and still seems like that team connection is lacking. He gives it his all but which player is better when they give it there all????
lastly we all know how chip can help someone's jumper but we also know pop can be a great motavator so how great would it be for pop to push that button that nobody wants to p,as with you KD abondanded you Paul George Bin Harden.....etc surely would be great vindication for him and there is nobody better to unlock all that the right way.
either way I wouldn't be crushed but asking me now I'd make the trade Something like DD Mills and a lesser younger player. No matter how you cut it it's almost similar to kawitter for okc just not forced but they have some youngins they got plenty of picks and still would want to sell some tickets while implementing rebuild getting 170 million off the owners hands for a comparable player is huge. 170 million vs possibly 75-77 million. Saving nearly 100 million is tremendous that much money is huge to an owner getting back a good veteran and a very good player whose numbers last year were excellent accept the 3 ball but Russ 3 ball terrible as well. Your doing them a favor. And in two years if they build correctly they have lots of open cap space.
I would rather have Russ than DDR. Atleast Russ doesn’t get blocked every time he attempts a lay up. And he also has the athleticism to dunk a basketball in traffic. They both suck at shooting 3s so that’s a wash. And I don’t have to worry about Russ getting depressed either.
Lol I don't want to bash on DD but I agree and he still looks stunned to me. One thing I left out is DD defense vs Russ defense that's big to I believe Russ defense is superior to and at best DD defense is mediocre . A clippers vs Spurs with Russ would be a very interesting game as would the lakers. More i think about it more it's a yes to me.
DeRozan is a significantly better shooter than Westbrook from everywhere on the court -- literally everywhere -- outside of three-pointers. But threes aren't even an advantage for Westbrook because he's the worst bulk three-point shooter in NBA history. He shoots a ton of them despite being a sub 30% three-point shooter. If DeRozan shot threes in bulk like Westbrook, he'd probably shoot at a higher percentage than Westbrook's 29%, tbh.
Westbrook is also a statchaser who has run off multiple Hall of Famers. He's almost entirely athleticism dependent and he's quickly losing said athleticism.
Westbrook is the more exciting player ... but he's no more of a winner than DeRozan is and his style of play is even less conducive to winning. You trade for Westbrook, you might as well trade away White and Walker because neither one of those two fit next to him. Probably have to trade away Aldridge too because he'd clog Westbrook's driving lanes ... and if you take away Westbrook's driving lanes, he's just about the least valuable player in the league.
NAW!!
Can we please start bumping this thread in two years when Westbrook would be getting bought out if he weren’t making $42-$47 million?
2-3 years ago you might look at russel
Now he shots worse then timvp
everything you said also makes a good case but that's where my faith in pops system and pop himself comes in and then chip working with him on his shot. That's why I'd want the trade done if it is meant to be asap so he can begin to assimilate to this system and work with chip.
where I disagree is if pop is successful and gets him to chase a chip instead of stats his assist numbers are very good and Aldridge can shoot but would also benefit from a lot of easy baskets from Russ driving look at Steven Adams really cant shoot but gets a ton of lay ups Poetrl also would benefit and I think if Russ is kicking out and Murray and white really have improved there shooting the Spurs could beat you in many ways they have depth and they could slash and dash all over the court allowing Russ to create a lot of easy baskets but who knows we would have to see if it actually did go down. And again Morris Carroll gay belli kick outs for mid ranges and 3s would be there. Defense also I believe improves a whole lot imagine Murray LA Morris Carroll and I like whites defense.
This forum has gone straight re if any of you ass clowns want west brick. Y’all should be ashamed yoursef very even participating in this thread. Shame..........shame..........shame
i would imagine okc would want 1 if not 2 of white/murray/lonnie on top of derozan tbh
derozan, salary filler, picks likely wouldn't get it done
Last edited by spurraider21; 07-08-2019 at 12:19 AM.
no way man I don't make a trade that involves Murray white or Lonnie. If your taking 100 million off the books keeping them competive and giving the gift of cap space to boot in 2years most I'd give is
DD
Mills
Metu/Mulitinov (spelling)
2020 2nd round pick
2021 2nd round pick
that wouldnt get it done
i think the real question is if pop wants westbrook and think he can get through to him
Please god no. The team is just starting to recover from the Nephew debacle.
Trading for Westbrook would set them back another 5 years easily.
Pop/RC should be fired on the spot if they decide to trade for Russ.
i believe pop and chip could help Russ harness all the talent play in the system and go for the chip and show up everyone that abandoned you rather than pad the stats.
They have gotten other players in line over the years and it's not like he doesn't work hard. Everyone says the guy can't play in a ball movement offense yet he gets 10.5 assist in his sleep ...I think if he believes and buys in here in the system he could flourish. Not to mention he knows all eyes on him if he can make it work with pop and the Spurs he can't make it work anywhere.
You were never ever a fan if trading for a stat who’s so bad that Pistons fans don’t want him, would make you a fan again.
Please tell me RC is just doing Presti a favor by showing interest in Russ. There's just no way this team would be dumb enough to cash in their chips for arguably the worst contract in basketball.
Is there serious interest or just speculation anyone???
Serious to the point where where names are being exchanged.
what are ur sources saying eb!?
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