Wow. Okay. If true, it's impressive how they managed to have Bullock sign a fake contract and then fail a physical right when Morris was ready to sign.
If you don't sign the player who you believe is the best on the market because you're mad at his agency ... that's a boycott, tbh, if only temporary.
So if the Spurs passed on Lyles in order to prove their "not nice," how long before you'd consider signing another Klutch player? Next summer? Two summers? Never?
Grim business tbh.
I saw you rage posting about Klutch and Morris earlier in threads. What changed?
thank God that came along to brighten my mood
Spurs are still getting left in the dust out west where the top 5-6 teams have all improved. Another first round exit at best.
Maybe maybe not. They’ve improved offensively and defensively.
Good question unless there.s some under the table going on , why didn't spurs pass?
If Trey ing Lyles is the best player left on the market you just move on tbh. If anything this ends up being a subtraction-by-addition move due to his off-court behavior.Wow. Okay. If true, it's impressive how they managed to have Bullock sign a fake contract and then fail a physical right when Morris was ready to sign.
If you don't sign the player who you believe is the best on the market because you're mad at his agency ... that's a boycott, tbh, if only temporary.
So if the Spurs passed on Lyles in order to prove their "not nice," how long before you'd consider signing another Klutch player? Next summer? Two summers? Never?
I think DPG is right on Lyles. I'm not sure he really moves the needle, unless he shows a lot of improvement. Probably something like 3:1 odds he doesn't become an impact player. But I also don't see what else the Spurs were going to do with the MLE and its only a 2 year deal so I don't think you really have an opportunity cost by signing him. What really hurts in all of this is the Bertans trade.
Sign nobody or sign the second best player on the market?
I'm not convinced they are done. Also don't believe they would have signed Lyles if they didn't think he had potential to grow.
And it's really only a 1 year deal if he sucks because year 2 is not guaranteed
There's a non zero chance that Lyles does become a good player for the Spurs. Its not a high chance, but I can't fault them for using part of the MLE on that chance as nothing else was going to show up that was going to be greater.
I think some you boys might want to see what we can do with Lyles before over bumping your gums�� history is on our side in development department.
Was out of the rotation for Denver at the end of the season.
Here’s hoping he reverts to himself from 2 seasons ago at least. He flashed some potential then, plus was really young so one didn’t think he would stall or regress. There’s some hope for redemption for him, but he also could suck badly.
He might make miss a couple of forwards the Spurs used to have. ... Hoping for the best though.
klutch
1) got morris paid
2) got lyles paid because the spurs ended up with their in their hands and 9 mil of recently freed up MLE cash (how convenient, after leveraging them to trade bertans exactly to make that happen)
i can see it... dont believe it though
What? Adding Carroll while losing Bertans, while I am good with that, is not something you can logically point to as a real improvement. I like the Carroll signing, but it’s not adding someone who lifts the ceiling.
The improvement still relies 99% on the Murray/White/Lonnie combo but that was already on the team; SA didnt do anything to raise the ceiling that they already didn’t have. Like I said, they only *slightly harmed the future (more about principle then legit damage with dead money and being so carefree with it - no matter the year) but mostly just....did nothing.
I don’t blame them for Morris; but they absolutely did not have to sign, let alone over pay, a bad player (regardless of Klutch).
Bertans was never projected to be anything special but still ended up being a cult legend here.
I'm not a big Lyles fan but you can only use the MLE to sign free agents and the pickings were really slim. After Lyles, there's literally not another stretch forward on the market worth more than a minimum deal. Lyles isn't particularly amazing but he's a lot better than Jerebko, Leuer, Cunningham, etc.
Sean Elliott? Davis Bertans? Keith Bogans? Cause no matter what Lyles does, no one here except you will miss Kyle.
My friend, I feel like I am taking crazy pills. I am not saying that it was some master plan in the works for a year or something. I am saying I think they knew about the Knicks issues and that even when giving SA their word knowing it would take a trade, they already knew something COULD be in the works with the Knicks...and gave SA their word to execute a trade anyways.
They shouldn’t have even been taking calls once SA made that trade. Point blank. If it were just the money fine, but there as a trade of a valuable player and it’s on Klutch to eat that Sammy, not SA at that point. That’s what I am saying.
If SA truly thinks Lyles whom no one else evidently wanted is the best player on the market or even comparable to Morris then that is an issue by itself. Sure, if you want to get technical and call it a boycott fine. But there is nothing wrong with boycotting a player/agency in this instance when it’s not a good player and where there is more than enough shield to where it couldn’t even be argued as a boycott with a simple lie/tall tale.If you don't sign the player who you believe is the best on the market because you're mad at his agency ... that's a boycott, tbh, if only temporary.
So if the Spurs passed on Lyles in order to prove their "not nice," how long before you'd consider signing another Klutch player? Next summer? Two summers? Never?
I understand Klutch is here to stay and I would deal with them if it was for a difference maker. But I’m not overpaying one of their clients who sucks at basketball no matter what and especially after this bull .
If anything, Klutch should have offered up Lyles for the min if they were truly sorry about this bull mistake. So the guys that brokered and colluded AD to LA made a mistake like this. Ok.
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that's why im contemplating some wink wink deals going on. Spurs are Klutches best customer for business when you look at like this. lol
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