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    More hypotheticals.
    I THINK THAT WOULD HAPPEN SO WE MUST NEVER TRY ANYTHING

    Something happened the last 20 years to make this country less violent overall and TSA wants to pretend it didn't happen.

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    No. Both ways. (Clevelanders) fled, leaving Cleveland proper a hole.
    Wasn't that more due to loss of industry than fear of Blackie?

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    wouldn't be as effective, on average
    What makes an assault style weapon more effective than any other semi auto rifle?

    how many guys is paddock taking out with a 9mm?
    couple full auto glocks with 100 round drums....probably the same amount, maybe more since they probably wouldn't jam as much as the rifles he used did.

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    You're the NRA talking points expert here, so correct me if I'm missing this analogy...

    Cars kill more people than 9mms and I don't think we should ban cars.

    It's pretty clear we're talking about the capability to kill many people in a short amount of time, compared against its application for self defense.
    Why doesn't a 9mm have the capability to kill many people in a short amount of time?

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    Wasn't that more due to loss of industry than fear of Blackie?
    Dude, that city emptied out like thru a Christmas goose.

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    What makes an assault style weapon more effective than any other semi auto rifle?
    Jesus, here we go with the technical jargon bog down tactic. So ing predictable.

    couple full auto glocks with 100 round drums....probably the same amount, maybe more since they probably wouldn't jam as much as the rifles he used did.
    Well getting rid of 100 round drums seems like a great idea right off the bat. Thanks!

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    Those would likely be written as state propositions to be voted on. Illinois had a Republican governor from 2015-2019. Illinois' conservative base is likely strong enough to defeat any of those proposals, especially with how tepid the Democratic turnout is during non-Presidental elections. And yes, it's their own damn fault. Younger people tend to lean left and they just don't turnout at the rate as older voters.
    I'm not buying it. Illinois is a democratic stronghold much like California and New York.

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    I'm not buying it. Illinois is a democratic stronghold much like California and New York.
    such bull .

    2016 presidential election:

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    What makes an assault style weapon more effective than any other semi auto rifle?
    i already told you i dont care what you characerize it as. you know full well what type of weapons we are discussing. for now, lets just say it includes all semi automatic rifles.

    couple full auto glocks with 100 round drums....probably the same amount, maybe more since they probably wouldn't jam as much as the rifles he used did.
    i'm down for banning any full auto weapons as well. thanks.

    i see no reason why anybody would need more than a semi automatic handgun (one pull of trigger, one bullet), or a shotgun (pump or semi auto) for self defense purposes. anything beyond that is just gun fetish and not a compelling individual interest imo

    are those still capable of producing murder? yes. mass murder? yes. but they would still be less effective than semi auto rifles.

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    i already told you i dont care what you characerize it as. you know full well what type of weapons we are discussing. for now, lets just say it includes all semi automatic rifles.
    You want all semi auto rifles banned now?


    i'm down for banning any full auto weapons as well. thanks.
    Can you name a single mass shooting using a fully automatic weapon?

    i see no reason why anybody would need more than a semi automatic handgun (one pull of trigger, one bullet), or a shotgun (pump or semi auto) for self defense purposes. anything beyond that is just gun fetish and not a compelling individual interest imo
    mid and I have discussed this at some length, you are free to find that conversation or just watch some youtube blooper videos of women trying to fire handguns and shotguns.

    are those still capable of producing murder? yes. mass murder? yes. but they would still be less effective than semi auto rifles.
    What makes semi auto rifles more effective than semi auto handguns in these mass shooting situations?

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    You want all semi auto rifles banned now?


    Can you name a single mass shooting using a fully automatic weapon?

    mid and I have discussed this at some length, you are free to find that conversation or just watch some youtube blooper videos of women trying to fire handguns and shotguns.



    What makes semi auto rifles more effective than semi auto handguns in these mass shooting situations?
    most of these dweebs have never shot a gun, not one, and that's the truth to their fear of guns. plus the ideology they subscribe to dictates their every move and here we are.

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    You want all semi auto rifles banned now?


    Can you name a single mass shooting using a fully automatic weapon?

    mid and I have discussed this at some length, you are free to find that conversation or just watch some youtube blooper videos of women trying to fire handguns and shotguns.



    What makes semi auto rifles more effective than semi auto handguns in these mass shooting situations?
    operation technical jargon bogdown a success

    Why the did you bring up full auto in the first place?

    Jesus you're a disingenuous .

    Blooper videos? Throw another misogynist log on the fire.

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    most of these dweebs have never shot a gun, not one, and that's the truth to their fear of guns. plus the ideology they subscribe to dictates their every move and here we are.
    How many guns do you own?

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    How many guns do you own?
    0 tbh... i've shot plenty though and want to get a 9mm one of these days just because that was my fav to shoot. my family has quite a few different types even though they're all big libs. i give them about it all the time for s and giggles.

    you?

    before i ever shot a gun i was against them. in my youth i had a few friends die due to stupidity with guns and viewed guns as the factor for their deaths instead of the idiots who pulled the trigger.

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    Same here. Left mine with family when I left for college.

    They're OK to shoot with my gun owning friends but not worth owning. If I get murdered you guys can call scoreboard.

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    Same here. Left mine with family when I left for college.

    They're OK to shoot with my gun owning friends but not worth owning. If I get murdered you guys can call scoreboard.
    there's no scoreboard to be had pav. juice, workout, try not to stress, and live life to its fullest.

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    Seung Hui Cho and his 32 victims disagree.
    The 9mm is one of the most commonly used in mass shootings from 1982-2019.
    How do handguns (9mm) get a pass from you when they are the overwhelming cause of all gun deaths? Have handguns used in self defense saved more people than killed?
    Why doesn't a 9mm have the capability to kill many people in a short amount of time?

    That time I got TSA to sound like a volunteer for Moms Demand Action.

    As the resident gun expert, and someone who cares deeply about gun safety, I'm sure you can think of ways to limit the potential damage from the various kinds of 9mm, or perhaps even which 9mm's are most relevant for self defense and which ones might be more of the murdering type of weapon.

    Getting rid of the 100-round drums you mentioned would be a great start. No one needs that for self defense.

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    That time I got TSA to sound like a volunteer for Moms Demand Action.

    As the resident gun expert, and someone who cares deeply about gun safety, I'm sure you can think of ways to limit the potential damage from the various kinds of 9mm, or perhaps even which 9mm's are most relevant for self defense and which ones might be more of the murdering type of weapon.

    Getting rid of the 100-round drums you mentioned would be a great start. No one needs that for self defense.
    that time Spurminator quoted 3 of his own dodges.

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    mid and I have discussed this at some length, you are free to find that conversation or just watch some youtube blooper videos of women trying to fire handguns and shotguns.

    TSA

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    smaller capacity magazines wont help because here's a video of the world record quickdraw guy reloading a gun in 0.002ms

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    What makes semi auto rifles more effective than semi auto handguns in these mass shooting situations?
    you tell me, you're the expert. why would one use a semi auto rifle instead of a semi auto handgun if they wanted to drop as many people as possible in as little time as possible?

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    you tell me, you're the expert. why would one use a semi auto rifle instead of a semi auto handgun if they wanted to drop as many people as possible in as little time as possible?
    Disregarding the other questions you skipped over this was your claim .

    You said they were more effective, now tell me how you came to that conclusion.

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    Disregarding the other questions you skipped over this was your claim .

    You said they were more effective, now tell me how you came to that conclusion.
    because of marvel movies!

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    Disregarding the other questions you skipped over this was your claim .

    You said they were more effective, now tell me how you came to that conclusion.
    capacity and stopping power. yeah lets go with that.



    now you tell me. why would one use a semi auto rifle instead of a semi auto handgun if they wanted to drop as many people as possible in as little time as possible?

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