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    Facts in a row here:

    Facts:
    Ukraine is dependent on US for military and economic aid.
    This aid was being held up by Trump.
    The prospect of a state visit was being held up.
    Trump asked Ukraine for the favor of investigating one if his main political rivals for the next election, immediately after the Ukrainian president mentioned how they needed the military aid.
    After the phone calls, the aid was released.
    Day after the aid was released Ukrainian government announced a "review" of the investigations done by corruption prosecutor, including the investigation Trump wanted.

    The implicit threat is very clear, and the Ukrainians appear to have given in to the threat.

    This is about as open and shut as it gets. Trump even admits to asking.


    you dishonest piece of .

    President Zelenskyy: Yes you are absolutely right. Not only 100%, but actually 1000% and I can tell you the following; I did talk to Angela Merkel and I did meet with her I also met and talked with Macron and I told them that they are not doing quite as much as they need to be doing on the issues with the sanctions. They are not enforcing the sanctions. They are not working as much as they should work for Ukraine. It turns out that even though logically, the European Union should be our biggest partner but technically the United States is a much bigger partner than the European Union and I'm very grateful to you for that because the United States is doing quite a lot for Ukraine. Much more than the European Union especially when we are talking about sanctions against the Russian Federation. I would also like to thank you for your great support in the area of defense. We are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps specifically we are almost. ready to buy more Javelins from the United States for defense purposes.

    The President: I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike... I guess you have one of your wealthy people... The server, they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation. I think you're surrounding yourself with some of the same people. I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it. As you saw yesterday, that whole nonsense ended with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mueller, an incompetent performance, but they say a lot of it started with Ukraine. Whatever you can do, it's very important that you do it if that's possible.
    Aw TSA trying soooo hard.

    My bad.

    I said"

    "immediately after the Ukrainian president mentioned how they needed the military aid."

    I should have said:

    "after the Ukrainian president mentioned how they needed the military aid."

    The request to investigate Biden was another paragraph or two down, where Trump asks for another favor:

    "there's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution, and a lot of people want to find about about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it..."

    TSA

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    Rudy Giuliani getting kicked to the curb in 3, 2, 1....




    Like clockwork. He flips on whoever he needs to. Can't his loyal followers see that?

    Who will he flip on next?

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    Facts in a row here:

    Facts:
    Ukraine is dependent on US for military and economic aid.
    This aid was being held up by Trump.
    The prospect of a state visit was being held up.
    Trump asked Ukraine for the favor of investigating one if his main political rivals for the next election, after the Ukrainian president mentioned how they needed the military aid, as one of several favors.
    After the phone calls, the aid was released.
    Day after the aid was released Ukrainian government announced a "review" of the investigations done by corruption prosecutor, including the investigation Trump wanted.

    The implicit threat is very clear, and the Ukrainians appear to have given in to the threat.

    This is about as open and shut as it gets. Trump even admits to asking.

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    I don't agree with RG's characterization, but guy, that transcript ain't great for your boy ...
    If I missed something be happy to correct it. Not going to tie my ego to any given thing. Always rather have it accurate.

    Whadimiss?

    (re-reading, edit)
    "wanted more military aid" rather than wanted "the military aid"?

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    Memba det time your internet stopped working?
    No, the other time. When I posted a link to a 1999 law review article that shat all over your berder. But I can see why you’d wanna avoid talking about that.

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    If I missed something be happy to correct it. Not going to tie my ego to any given thing. Always rather have it accurate.

    Whadimiss?

    (re-reading, edit)
    "wanted more military aid" rather than wanted "the military aid"?
    your "facts" in a row need another edit

    What ing transcript are you reading from? Trump never asked for a favor from Ukraine for investigating Biden. Where are you even reading "wanted more military aid" or "the military aid"?

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    Rudy Giuliani’s arrested associates had dined with Donald Trump inside the White House
    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/rud...e-white-house/




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    Dont know why any of you bothers with TSA. It's a gurantee he'll always whataboutism your argument and start posting Obama pictures or throw in a Hillary reference here and there.

    A waste of time.

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    ANOTHA ONE

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    Remember when Manafort and Cohen were going to flip and bring down Trump? Remember when Avenatti was on CNN running for POTUS?

    Pepperidge Farm remembers.

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    Schiff Aides Worked With Whistleblower

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    your "facts" in a row need another edit

    What ing transcript are you reading from? Trump never asked for a favor from Ukraine for investigating Biden. Where are you even reading "wanted more military aid" or "the military aid"?
    A lot of people think you are an idiot.

    Its almost as if you were reading it with your Trump Derangement Glasses on. Whatever you can do to look into it, that would be great. I'm sure you can figure it out.

    or not.

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    djohn getting all worked up again only to be disappointed when none of this touches Trump.
    Rudy Giuliani’s arrested associates had dined with Donald Trump inside the White House
    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/rud...e-white-house/


    but... Obama... Hillary... argle bargle
    So sad.


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    It's an impeachment inquiry. Rudy knows none of this applies.


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    A lot of people think you are an idiot.

    Its almost as if you were reading it with your Trump Derangement Glasses on. Whatever you can do to look into it, that would be great. I'm sure you can figure it out.

    or not.
    You can’t answer any of the questions because you know you just made up again and none of what you claimed is on the actual transcript.

    dishonest piece of

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    If Trump was really as smart as he thinks he is he would pull an LBJ and announce he isn't running in 2020.

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    Trump is more stable then any democract running now

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    Trump is more stable then any democract running now
    Ducks, Trump is losing his . He ran never expecting to win in order to " build his brand". When he actually won he just tripped right off the deep end. The man is a stain on our Presidential underwear. Anyone he ran against in the primary would have been a better president. Sadly after three years he is even more hateable than Hillary.

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    Ignorant

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    Trump is more stable then any democract running now

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    Ducks, Trump is losing his . He ran never expecting to win in order to " build his brand". When he actually won he just tripped right off the deep end. The man is a stain on our Presidential underwear. Anyone he ran against in the primary would have been a better president. Sadly after three years he is even more hateable than Hillary.
    You either hate him or like him
    No in between
    He by far is doing better for country then the past presidents


    He should have fired the cia agents left from the corrupt Biden and 44 people

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    Moore and more is coming out how crooked the democract house is

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