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    Can we just let this thread die ?

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    I wouldn't trade Parker for three Rondos.

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    Parker is overrated in the fact that he is a point guard. A point guard runs an offense, an settles a team down. When is the last time parker had a 6pt 15ast night. Parker looks to get himself going first. Parker is always gona get his. Parker works very hard in a possesion to get a shot for himself or his teammates. He runs alot of pick n rolls which so that he ca get into the lane. sometimes why not call a play for someone else? Calderon / Rondo / Cp3 / Deron Williams dont hold the ball. If they see something they like then they'll take it. if not they give the ball to their teammates and they let them create. All 4 point guards that I mention can score 20pts any time they want. Calderon is a great shooter / Rondo is as fast as parker / Deron williams and Cp3 can do it all offensively. Yet they get their points within the offensive system and assert themselves when neccesary. Parker holds the ball and doesn;t run an offense. When he runs all those pick an rolls with duncan he gets big men on him. He always looks to score after that. The other Point guards mentioned will look to feed it to the big man in the post who has a little guy on him. By the way when parker does get those big men to play him off a switch, how many times does he end up taking jumshots? Parker is great player and he can score at will. However Right now with the personnel we have we need a real point guard to facilitate and run offense and put others in a comfortable position to score, and then when neccesary insert themselves into the offense.

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    Parker for Howard or LeBron maybe.

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    blablabla...

    However Right now with the personnel we have we need a real point guard to facilitate and run offense and put others in a comfortable position to score, and then when neccesary insert themselves into the offense.

    However right now with the personnel we have have we need TP score at least 50 pts to have a chance to win a game.
    For sure TP needs to put Finley / Bonner / Udoka etc.. in a comfortable position

    Congrat dude you deserve the award of the best post of this long, boring, ty, useless, stupid thread.

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    As long as this thread got trashed, which Spurs fans would do the following trades:

    1. Duncan for Garnett
    2. Duncan for Pierce and Allen
    3. Manu for Pierce
    4. Manu for Allen
    5. Manu for Rondo
    6. Gooden for Perkins
    Well right now Manu has no trade value so nobody would trade us for him anyways. I'm just hoping Manu gets really healthy this offseason and since it's a contract year I hope he has a really good season to get a contract either here or with somebody else. I don't care where he decides to go I just want him to have a good year next year.

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    Don't know if theoretical trade threads are frowned upon or not, but I was watching the Celtics game tonight and listening to them talk about how good Rondo is.

    And I agree, so would you trade or approve of a trade of Tony Parker for Rajon Rondo, straight up?

    My thoughts:

    Rondo's younger and cheaper and likely to get better.


    But Parker is a championship-winning stud who's playing the best ball of his career right now.

    I would be in favor of it, though I think its an incredibly close argument.

    In posing the question, I'm considering it not just as a "who's better?" argument but who you would rather have as a franchise, including age, salary, prospects for improvement, etc.

    What do you think?


    Eh...it wouldn't be a big enough difference to justify the trade. We'd be no closer to a le for doing it.

    Furthermore, I'd be inclined to keep Tony as a career Spur because he's pretty much earned it already.


    Tony is a much better scorer and Rondo is pretty good at everything else.

    I do point to Rondo as an example of what Parker could be as a passer in the right situation, I actually think Tony is probably a better passer and better at getting guys open because of his scoring dominance, he just isn't asked to distribute as much as Rondo is.


    All that said...I've been a Rondo fan going back a few years now and anyone that thinks he sucks or isn't/will never be, a great PG, is completely clueless.

    His #1 attribute and probably his biggest positive in an area that is a more or less a negative for Parker...

    Rondo's motor is always running. He never needs a kick in the pants to get him going. He never needs to be coerced or called out into doing it and even if he's not scoring, he can have an impact in virtually every other aspect of the game, because that's his weakest area, and most of the others are strenghts.

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    Rondo > Parker

    In fact, Rondo is the best point guard in the league. I don't know if its his skill or Doc Rivers' doing, but the guy is unstoppable.

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    Rondo > Parker

    In fact, Rondo is the best point guard in the league. I don't know if its his skill or Doc Rivers' doing, but the guy is unstoppable.
    Easy there killer. He still needs a jumper and some consistency. He disappears in games and loses his aggressiveness in going to the paint. Since he lacks a consistent jumper, that is death to his offense.

    The best part of his trade value is his cheapness and youth. You know he's only going to get better.

    But to put this issue to rest, even if Rondo were better than Parker, and I don't think he is, the fact is that the Spurs window to win is RIGHT NOW while Timmy is still playing at an elite level. And we need Parker's volume scoring, which Rondo doesn't provide. Plus you'd be shaking the foundation of the team and its hard to know what will happen if you do that.

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    Easy there killer. He still needs a jumper and some consistency. He disappears in games and loses his aggressiveness in going to the paint. Since he lacks a consistent jumper, that is death to his offense.

    The best part of his trade value is his cheapness and youth. You know he's only going to get better.

    But to put this issue to rest, even if Rondo were better than Parker, and I don't think he is, the fact is that the Spurs window to win is RIGHT NOW while Timmy is still playing at an elite level. And we need Parker's volume scoring, which Rondo doesn't provide. Plus you'd be shaking the foundation of the team and its hard to know what will happen if you do that.
    He was joking... It's called sarcasm.

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    Can we just let this thread die ?
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    He was joking... It's called sarcasm.
    Wow, reading that again its obvious. Guess my sarcasm detector was switched off.

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    Trade out Rondo for Parker the last month and the Spurs would be scoring about 75 points per game. Rondo is a good player but he's overhyped due to being on a very good team. He's a better defender than Parker ... but that's about it. And his type of gambling, pressure defense doesn't really jive with Pop's bend-but-don't-break defensive philosophy.

    Give Hill a couple of years and he may very well be a nice Rondo clone.
    Great insight. Rondo is good ...but the media is suckinh him off way too hard. His stats are great all-around but he is TO prone not clutch AND his jumper is as broke as Parker's used to be ...

    I agree his only advantage is on defense but Rondo can not drop 40 like Parker he is good but not THAT good ...

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    Rondo > Parker

    In fact, Rondo is the best point guard in the league. I don't know if its his skill or Doc Rivers' doing, but the guy is unstoppable.
    Best in the league? No way but I would take him over the even more overrated CP3 who has been the 5th best PG in these playoffs ...

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    Rondo > Parker

    In fact, Rondo is the best point guard in the league. I don't know if its his skill or Doc Rivers' doing, but the guy is unstoppable.
    If any of his data is better than CP3, please tell me.
    You really think 11.9 pts per game is unstoppable? If you think he has a lot of assists, think about Jose Calderon. You can also say Calderon is unstoppable.

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    if any of his data is better than cp3, please tell me.
    You really think 11.9 pts per game is unstoppable? If you think he has a lot of assists, think about jose calderon. You can also say calderon is unstoppable.
    freakin' finally calderon gets some respect for being a good point guard.

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    Yes pleasssseeee !!!!

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    Rondo for Parker?


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    no...
    why would you post such a horrible question. I don't think rondo will ever be as good as parker and i bet that george hill will be waaaay better than rondo in two years if not next season. I wouldn't even trade parker for nash. Parker will be the face of the spurs franchise when duncan retires. I don't care if hes averaging a triple double or whatever in the playoffs, i think he's a peice of .



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