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    With RC's comments about not worrying about going into tax territory, Gortat may be obtainable after all. This move would put us equal/above the Lakers.
    I find it odd how many people are building up Gortat. I'm not sure how he's better than Gooden, but he's younger and hopefully has more upside.

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    I find it odd how many people are building up Gortat. I'm not sure how he's better than Gooden, but he's younger and hopefully has more upside.
    I agree.

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    I find it odd how many people are building up Gortat. I'm not sure how he's better than Gooden, but he's younger and hopefully has more upside.
    I think he does. He has made huge strides already. Beyond being a good pick and roll player and being a good finisher around the rim he doesn't have a lot of offensive skill, but that matters little now that we have Jefferson. There were some valid concerns before RJ was acquired, but now he is the perfect player for us. He rebounds, blocks shots, is a better than average post defender and is very mobile to the point where he is quick enough laterally to get in front of guards to take charges. His deep playoff run with Orlando this year will also benefit him.

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    Gortat blocks shots, rebounds, and plays the pick and roll very well. About all you could ask for.

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    I find it odd how many people are building up Gortat. I'm not sure how he's better than Gooden, but he's younger and hopefully has more upside.
    If he plays defense and his basketball IQ is higher than .5 he's an upgrade over Gooden.

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    Gortat simply fits better for us..he plays very good 1 on 1 defense, and he blocks shots, so he's the whole defensive package we need down low..he played great defense against both Gasol and Bynum in the Finals..

    we don't need another scorer down low, we need a guy that can play defense at this point..

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    If he plays defense and his basketball IQ is higher than .5 he's an upgrade over Gooden.
    Neither of which you know based on his history. Gooden's going to score and rebound, and has started on a team that made the finals. Your assessment* of Gooden's performance defensively was based upon stepping right into the Spurs with no knowledge of the defense, something many bigs have been completely unable to do. You're welcome to make these statements, but you need to acknowledge that there's nothing behind it but blind hope.



    *By "assessment", I of course mean your copying timvp's opinion without applying any thought whatsoever.

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    Neither of which you know based on his history. Gooden's going to score and rebound, and has started on a team that made the finals. Your assessment* of Gooden's performance defensively was based upon stepping right into the Spurs with no knowledge of the defense, something many bigs have been completely unable to do. You're welcome to make these statements, but you need to acknowledge that there's nothing behind it but blind hope.



    *By "assessment", I of course mean your copying timvp's opinion without applying any thought whatsoever.

    Nice little personal shot there but no, my assesment of him is from his years with Memphis, Orlando, Cleveland.

    Cleveland made the Finals despite him.

    Gooden is the big man version of Ricky Davis.

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    Gortat simply fits better for us..he plays very good 1 on 1 defense, and he blocks shots, so he's the whole defensive package we need down low..he played great defense against both Gasol and Bynum in the Finals..

    we don't need another scorer down low, we need a guy that can play defense at this point..
    I agree that having another scorer down low isn't a necessity and that Gortat's defense was pretty damn impressive against Bynum and Gasol, but I don't see him being that great of a fit. (At least for the MLE)

    I'm not saying he's not worth the MLE, just that it wouldn't be all that ideal for the Spurs.

    Look how Gortat excelled with the Magic. He didn't do it by playing alongside another big but playing in the middle of an arsenal of 3-point shooters.

    He worked with the Magic, and would work with the Spurs, when the middle is left open for him to roll or flash to the basket. Paying him the MLE to do what he did with the Magic wouldn't be all that wise.

    3 of the top 4 players on the Spurs now are, at heart, slashers. Combine that with a dominant big who needs room to operate and is becoming an easier target defensively with his lack of explosiveness, and there's simply not the type of room on the floor conducive for the starting group to maximize their half-court potential.

    Gortat's a solid player that I wouldn't mind having, but for the MLE he needs to have some kind of face-up game.

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    Translation? I can't figure out what language that is.

    its polish and its translates to

    Gortat a way for San Antonio
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    take what you want from it

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    He will be the guy,trust me!

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    Nice little personal shot there
    No, it's just the truth. If you can't have a discussion without getting sand in your vagina then don't bother to copy the points other people make and let them draw the fire.

    no, my assesment of him is from his years with Memphis, Orlando, Cleveland.
    Okay, then let's hear about why he's incapable of playing defense as well as the corpse of Rasho, Matt Bonner or a big Polish guy we've seen play for about three games. You're obviously ignoring his stats in favor of some vague impression you've divined. A source of this revelation would be fun for all of us.

    Cleveland made the Finals despite him.
    Evidence of that, please. Since you state it like it's a fact then it should be really easy to back up.

    Gooden is the big man version of Ricky Davis.
    Again, I'm waiting for evidence that Gooden's ever been a locker-room cancer, has put his own stats above team success, has been the sole reason a team went from being decent to being terrible, whines about his contract or calls a timeout so he can get a triple double. The worst thing I can say about him during his time as a Spur is that he tried too hard to score, which isn't really a sin given this coach and the offensive talent they rolled out alongside him.

    If nothing else, I'd be satisfied if you could list the 12 point, 8 rebound, 1 block per game bigs the Spurs have available to sign that have playoff experience and have stated publicly that they want to be in San Antonio long-term.

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    I wouldn`t trust wp.pl. They mostly tell bull s. Article isn`t about something new. It is only about possibility. They did not write about Orlando matching Spurs offer, which is highly possible if Spurs offer him 3mln $.

    Most polish newspapers writes that Spurs fit best for Gortat.

    Gortat says that he is happy in Orlando. He wants to play more, but he wouldn`t mind staying in Orlando.

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    Is is true that he said he would like to start on a team this upcoming season, or was that just rumors?..I heard that he said something like that a few months ago, so it's interesting..I haven't researched it, but Magic fans were talking about it for a little while..

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    For the first time in a long while, the Spurs have something to offer a a free agent without overpaying for him. Throwing some money at Dwight Howard's backup along with a chance to start might actually work.

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    For the first time in a long while, the Spurs have something to offer a a free agent without overpaying for him. Throwing some money at Dwight Howard's backup along with a chance to start might actually work.
    He's restricted, so Orlando can just match.

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    He's restricted, so Orlando can just match.
    Ye but i heard that they weren't really willing to keep him

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    Hedo really holds all the cards here, especially since Orlando (boneheadedly IMO) already conceded they are willing to go into the lux tax to keep him.

    For our sake, I hope the Pistons throw a lot of money at Hedo, forcing the Magic hand. At that point Gortat might even be a bargain...

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    If the Magic re-sign Hedo, there is very little chance they could keep Gortat.

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    Now that the Magic have VC, Gortat will probably be re-signed.

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    Now that the Magic have VC, Gortat will probably be re-signed.
    they said magic are still going to try and sign hedo so i dont know how that helps resigning gortat

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    well they just lost battie so they just lost a piece of their even thinner front court

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    they said magic are still going to try and sign hedo so i dont know how that helps resigning gortat
    It's pointless to re-sign Hedo if they have VC. Gortat fills a much bigger need for them at this point as they have traded away Battie.

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    He's restricted, so Orlando can just match.
    Actually I knew that, but I thought he could choose between offers if they chose not to match, forgetting that the QO is like a contract.

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    It's pointless to re-sign Hedo if they have VC. Gortat fills a much bigger need for them at this point as they have traded away Battie.
    yea makes sense now that i think about it...but they will need some perimeter players to come off the bench now cuz petrius or however you spell it will prob be in the starting lineup now that lee is gone

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