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    A Celtics writer is reporting that his "inside sources" are saying that Wallace will be a Celtic, and that they're all pretty confident about it..could easily be bull , so we'll have to see..
    Would that be the same guy who reported a pending Amar'e' for Jefferson trade?

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    You gotta admire McDyess-- it's easy to forget that before hurting his knee he was not only a good player, but along with Duncan was being mentioned as one of the best young forwards in the game. In the '00-'01 season, he put up these stats with Denver:

    20.8 ppg
    12.1 rpg
    2.1 apg
    1.5 bpg

    He has been through a lot, and it would be a great story if he signed with the Spurs and finally won a le.

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    You gotta admire McDyess-- it's easy to forget that before hurting his knee he was not only a good player, but along with Duncan was being mentioned as one of the best young forwards in the game. In the '00-'01 season, he put up these stats with Denver:

    20.8 ppg
    12.1 rpg
    2.1 apg
    1.5 bpg

    He has been through a lot, and it would be a great story if he signed with the Spurs and finally won a le.

    He's definitely a class-act and a genuinely good guy.

    As far as athletically, back in the day?

    I remember hearing stories of him being able to take quarters off the top of the backboard.

    Those stories might've been exaggerated, but he was a ridiculous leaper.

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    He was a great leaper when he was younger, which makes his transition even more impressive. His 9.8 rpg last year was his best since '01, and his rebounding numbers have actually gone up each of the last 4 years, which is rare in a player his age-- he's 34 now, but will turn 35 before the season starts. So, unlike Ben Wallace when he went to Chicago, Dice is not already in a state of decline. If anything, you could argue that last season was his best in the last half decade.

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    Damn, McDyess is money from the side of the court where Duncan prefers. I could see a lot of two-man action between McDyess and Duncan. McDyess enters the ball to Duncan on the post and if the big sags, McDyess gets the return pass in his wheelhouse.

    Yeah I like Rasheed and have loved for him to be on the team, but McDyess is hard to not want. He's a bulldog like Blair but so mch more polished.


    Question, if the Spurs sign him, does the defense stay the same as if Bonner was on the team, or is McDyess such a superior defender that the defense improves tremendously.

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    The concensus has been that the Spurs need a legitimate big man who will play defense and rebound, and block a few shots - scoring is secondary. I'm not sure Portland would deal with us, but I think they may be in position to trade Joel Przybilla. He's not a star, by any means, but he fits the description, and his salary is within reason.

    http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthre...=129951&page=4

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    Where does Illgauskas fall into this list?

    They just traded for Shaq, and they are looking at spending the MLE on Villanueva.

    Or does this mean they are just replacing Varejao with Villanueva?

    If so, does that make the Spurs interested in Andy?

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    Yeah I like Rasheed and have loved for him to be on the team, but McDyess is hard to not want. He's a bulldog like Blair but so mch more polished.


    Question, if the Spurs sign him, does the defense stay the same as if Bonner was on the team, or is McDyess such a superior defender that the defense improves tremendously.

    From the games I've watched of McDyess I'd say the D improves by quite a bit over Bonners D...McDyess is just an all-around stronger defender than Bonner. I mean in everyway-help d, man, on the block, box out/rebounding, intensity. I'm starting to think more and more with the teams competing for sheed that he's going to end up getting locked in at like 3/4 years for a pretty decent hunk of cash-and honestly sheed in like 2 years could be scary bad. Then stuck with another washed up loser makin a lot more than deserved. McDyess in everyway outperformed sheed last year and I think his personality fits better, but as aldridge said in that article sheed tends to tune out if not interested, he probably would be re-energized on the spurs.

    Considering everything I would have to say
    1-mcdyess
    2-sheed

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    Question, if the Spurs sign him, does the defense stay the same as if Bonner was on the team, or is McDyess such a superior defender that the defense improves tremendously.
    McDyess over Bonner is an improvement in the interior -- in terms of post defense, rebounds, blocked shots and overall toughness -- but Bonner is the better perimeter defender. McDyess for Bonner swap would probably improve the defense, but only slightly.

    Where the improvement can come next year is Jefferson replacing Finley. If Jefferson can revert back to his defensive roots, that's a gargantuan improvement over Finley. That combined with McDyess helping protect the rim is where the improvement begins.

    Then if Hill can carve out some time off the bench and Mason can show some signs of improvement, the D can be a lot better.

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    Where does Illgauskas fall into this list?
    I'd put him way down the list. Behind Rasho for sure ... probably behind Oberto.

    He looked sloooooow by playoff time and the Duncan and Ilgauskas combo would never work. He doesn't score enough anymore to make up for his declining defense. Bad fit. Three years ago when TD and Ilguaskas were quicker and the NBA was slower, it would have worked. But not today.

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    Where would Timvp put Charlie Villanueva since the Bucks did not offer him a Qualifying offer? Seriously, some teams are in the league to give their "compe ion" a le or something.

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    Where would Timvp put Charlie Villanueva since the Bucks did not offer him a Qualifying offer? Seriously, some teams are in the league to give their "compe ion" a le or something.
    I'd keep him where he is. He has offensive skills but I trust his shot selection and ability to defend even less than Gooden. At least Gooden has the history of starting for a good defensive team. Villanueva and Pop seem like a bad mix.

    Besides, I'm about 95% sure that the Cavs will sign him as long as he doesn't get an offer in excess of the MLE. After they got killed by Rashard Lewis, they need a lighter and quicker power forward like V.

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    I'd keep him where he is. He has offensive skills but I trust his shot selection and ability to defend even less than Gooden. At least Gooden has the history of starting for a good defensive team. Villanueva and Pop seem like a bad mix.

    Besides, I'm about 95% sure that the Cavs will sign him as long as he doesn't get an offer in excess of the MLE. After they got killed by Rashard Lewis, they need a lighter and quicker power forward like V.
    Yea, i heard the Cavs were close to getting him. Are they getting him for a long term MLE? I guess so. Hmm, I really thought he'd command more with his age and the growth in his game over the last few years. I'd like to have a young 6'11 guy who can score, but I don't know a whole lot about his D...so idk, but 24 with his numbers is very nice for a guy his height.

    Do you guys think this is all going to go down pretty quick on the 1st or you think it will take awhile with sheed and mcdyess not making up their minds for awhile. I hope they make their decisions early so IF we don't get one we have time to work on other options. Just give us one-either and I'm content.

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    I'd think it's going to take a while. Looks like both Sheed and Dyess are going to have to do the SA-Cleveland-Orlando-Boston circuit before making up their minds.

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    Get the Birdman to SA town.

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    well, if Celveland signs Charlie V they are out of the Sheed/McDyess race, right?
    likely this also means, they are not going to re sign Varejao. (or Varejao isn't interested in re signing and fight for minutes in a crowded front court of Shaq, Z, Charlie V, maybe also Hickson and Jackson, who both have a year under their belt.)
    however, it would be good news for the Spurs. they either lose a compe or for the services from Sheed/McDyess AND might get another FA option in Varejao.
    in other words: if the Cavs sign Charlie V, the chances that the Spurs get one of the 3 mentioned FAs will be almost doubled.

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    I think Villanueva would be a nice pick assuming he would not want more $$$$$. Bucks have made thier decison not to extend Villanueva a qualifying offer, the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reports.
    Spin: The Bucks have some salary restrictions this offseason, and the club will focus on trying to retain point-guard Ramon Sessions instead of Villanueva, who will become a free agent. The versatile power-forward could demand big money after averaging a career-high 16.7 points and 6.7 rebounds last season.. Good fit i think, Young and has potential.....

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    Charlie would make a good fit in Spurs rotation.

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    We've got enough offense. We need interior presences on D and rebounding, with any offense after that as an added bonus. Just say no to Charlie V.

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    What about David Lee?

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    What about David Lee?
    Not attainable for the MLE.

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    Not in our price range.

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    McDyess over Bonner is an improvement in the interior -- in terms of post defense, rebounds, blocked shots and overall toughness -- but Bonner is the better perimeter defender. McDyess for Bonner swap would probably improve the defense, but only slightly.

    Where the improvement can come next year is Jefferson replacing Finley. If Jefferson can revert back to his defensive roots, that's a gargantuan improvement over Finley. That combined with McDyess helping protect the rim is where the improvement begins.

    Then if Hill can carve out some time off the bench and Mason can show some signs of improvement, the D can be a lot better.
    Yeah I sometimes forget that Richard Jefferson is on the team

    McDyess can protect the rim from time to time and is pretty damn good in the low block.

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    With the fantastic news that Fin has returned, Sheed cements his spot on this list as number one. The Spurs need a power forward who Pop will trust at the end of games and he might be the only one on the list who would no doubt see crunch time minutes.

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    Hopefully that dude from Boston doesn't have a legit source..

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