No Splitter?

[mingus]

people who are bashing tyrus for his low bball iq are probably the same people (many of them percieved as so-called "experts 'round here) who bashed Michael Petrius for having low bball iq and used that as an argument for not signing him. he might not have a great bball iq, but he's been instrumental in Orlando's success the last two years, and he's be a much better fit than Bogan's, Hairston, RMJ.

[TIMMYD!]

I've wanted Thomas since forever.

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131938

[jjktkk]

people who are bashing tyrus for his low bball iq are probably the same people (many of them percieved as so-called "experts 'round here) who bashed Michael Petrius for having low bball iq and used that as an argument for not signing him. he might not have a great bball iq, but he's been instrumental in Orlando's success the last two years, and he's be a much better fit than Bogan's, Hairston, RMJ.

I wanted Thomas, but not at the expense of trading a 1st rounder. I did think it odd that Chicago wanted to give away a lottery pick talent like Thomas. And, although hes a pretty good player, I wanna see how he holds up next year, under the bulldog coaching of Brown.

[rascal]

I'd give it a >1% chance he'll be a spur next season.

As KBP posted in the nba forum he will be offered substantially more money to stay in Europe, the nba caps are due to shrink due to lower revenues and the spurs aren't really in a position to get into a bidding war anyway.

That's to say nothing about other factors other than $$$, I think if SA was in a total rebuild mode with a new coach there would at least be a chance he's be considering it, but given what he probably sees (a quirky coach w/ no confidence in his bigs, playing small ball, big men riding the bench and/or let go), and he probably doesn't know for sure how his game is going to translate to the nba (and neither does anyone else), the fact that the big 3 are still playing and the spurs trying to field a champion, and finally he'd be thrown into a major pressure cooker to provide immediate results. His agent has probably discussed all this with him already and he is well aware of all of this.

I'd say its possible he might come in another 4-5 years ala Sabonis (as somebody else mentioned in this thread) after he's made his fortune in Europe and has little else to prove there and the big 3 are all retired and the spurs are in a rebuilding phase and there would be little pressure on him.

Thats the mental makeup of a soft wimp. Another 4-5 years! The spurs should just pass on this guy.

[L.I.T]

Your right. Maybe that's why he's trying the ownership gig, which should keep him partially at bay from trying to make decisions concerning the affairs of the team.

You'd think, anyway.

MJ debate aside, I think the cats' look like one of the up and coming teams in the league, especially on the defensive side of things and that was even before they added Ratliff and Thomas.

I like the 'Cats a lot, but I don't think you can call them an up and coming team in the league. At best, they have a two year window to be compe ive with their current talent and age levels.

Stephen Jackson is 31 and will not remain an elite scorer for long. As a matter of fact, I don't think you could call him an elite scorer today. He's a volume shooter. Tough as nails though.

Gerald Wallace is 27 and with his past injury history, I don't think over the downside of his career he's going to turn durable all of a sudden.

Raymond Felton at 25 is a good young solid point guard, but not someone you build around. He's good, no doubt. But as his career progresses is probably better suited to coming off the bench as a back up PG.

DJ Augustin at 22 is still raw. But I think it's become apparent he is not a franchise players.

Boris Diaw is 27, but with the way he eats is probably closer to 30.

Aside from that their bigs encompass a broken down Chandler (27), Ratliff (36), Nazr (32). Their only real young big talent is Ty Thomas. And despite what you may think, it's pretty apparent he's not a franchise player.

Rebuilding their bench in the offseason and hopefully bringing in some younger front court talent will help them stay compe ive. But their top 2 players are 32 and 27: age and injury history are not in their favor. Two years at most if they stay with their current core and likely will never sniff a championship.

Up-and-coming? Not so much. Fun to watch them defensively? Definitely.

[Harry Callahan]

I would not trust M Jordan to run my business. He was a great player, but he has no patience with players who will never be as good as he was. The Wizards are still recovering from his management errors.

Back to Splitter, its time to crap or get off the pot. He needs to get to the NBA now where he still has a chance to truly develop against the best players at a fairly young age.

He has a decent amount of $ in the bank now and the family situation has now changed.

He is no longer restricted to the rookie salary scale because he's been in Europe awhile. His best friend Scola stayed over in Europe a couple of years too long and missed out on a couple of high salary NBA years as a result (the unreasonable buyouts were to play there for years). Louis is now 30 and is not yet to his second NBA contract.

A decent sized contract with the opportunity to get the NBA time clock started will be in Splitter's best interest.

Splitter is turning 25 and can help the Spurs build on the run with some promising young players already in place and hopefully another decent #1 pick this year. Staying in Europe for four of five more years will re his development as a player due to the lack of a shortage quality bigs overseas.

[TJastal]

I like the 'Cats a lot, but I don't think you can call them an up and coming team in the league. At best, they have a two year window to be compe ive with their current talent and age levels.

Stephen Jackson is 31 and will not remain an elite scorer for long. As a matter of fact, I don't think you could call him an elite scorer today. He's a volume shooter. Tough as nails though.

Gerald Wallace is 27 and with his past injury history, I don't think over the downside of his career he's going to turn durable all of a sudden.

Raymond Felton at 25 is a good young solid point guard, but not someone you build around. He's good, no doubt. But as his career progresses is probably better suited to coming off the bench as a back up PG.

DJ Augustin at 22 is still raw. But I think it's become apparent he is not a franchise players.

Boris Diaw is 27, but with the way he eats is probably closer to 30.

Aside from that their bigs encompass a broken down Chandler (27), Ratliff (36), Nazr (32). Their only real young big talent is Ty Thomas. And despite what you may think, it's pretty apparent he's not a franchise player.

Rebuilding their bench in the offseason and hopefully bringing in some younger front court talent will help them stay compe ive. But their top 2 players are 32 and 27: age and injury history are not in their favor. Two years at most if they stay with their current core and likely will never sniff a championship.

Up-and-coming? Not so much. Fun to watch them defensively? Definitely.

Wow that's quite a laundry list of negatives you've compiled there. I don't even think I could find that much wrong with the nets. I'm particularily impressed with your "non-franchise player" labels.

[L.I.T]

Wow that's quite a laundry list of negatives you've compiled there. I don't even think I could find that much wrong with nets. I'm particularily impressed with your "non-franchise player" labels.

Quality response.

And if you think that DJ Augustin and Ty Thomas (the only real youth they have on their team, along with Felton) are franchise player material you must be over the moon ecstatic over the championships Hill and Blair are going to bring the Spurs when TD/TP/Manu are traded away this off-season to make way for them.

[TJastal]

I would not trust M Jordan to run my business. He was a great player, but he has no patience with players who will never be as good as he was. The Wizards are still recovering from his management errors.

Back to Splitter, its time to crap or get off the pot. He needs to get to the NBA now where he still has a chance to truly develop against the best players at a fairly young age.

He has a decent amount of $ in the bank now and the family situation has now changed.

He is no longer restricted to the rookie salary scale because he's been in Europe awhile. His best friend Scola stayed over in Europe a couple of years too long and missed out on a couple of high salary NBA years as a result (the unreasonable buyouts were to play there for years). Louis is now 30 and is not yet to his second NBA contract.

A decent sized contract with the opportunity to get the NBA time clock started will be in Splitter's best interest.

Splitter is turning 25 and can help the Spurs build on the run with some promising young players already in place and hopefully another decent #1 pick this year. Staying in Europe for four of five more years will re his development as a player due to the lack of a shortage quality bigs overseas.

I think the spurs are better off developing Ian. He'll be much cheaper by a longshot and his talents fit better what the spurs need (athleticism / shot-blocking). Plus he has NBA experience under his belt and some spurs experience too).

[yavozerb]

I think the spurs are better off developing Ian. He'll be much cheaper by a longshot and his talents fit better what the spurs need (athleticism / shot-blocking). Plus he has NBA experience under his belt and some spurs experience too).

, if thats what you call it...You do realize that the spurs have already invested a couple of mil. in trying to develop this guy. Splitter is only 1 year older than mahinmi and has much more Professional basketball experience. I am no european basketball expert, but I have read many more articles touting Splitters skills rather than saying he would be a failure in the NBA. I hope the spurs can re-sign Ian cause he can be a good back up center (energy player) behind Splitter.

[Big P]

I think the spurs are better off developing Ian. He'll be much cheaper by a longshot and his talents fit better what the spurs need (athleticism / shot-blocking). Plus he has NBA experience under his belt and some spurs experience too).

Pretty sure its too late for that...since we did not pick up his option for next year, I expect a team like oklahoma to offer him a contract & Ian with the Spurs is history...unfortunately.

[Spurs Brazil]

ESPN Brazil is showing Spurs-Lakers and Eduardo Agra, who is doing the game said he talked with Tiago agent and one thing is for sure, he won't stay in Caja Laboral next season. He doesn't know what's going to happen but Caja Laboral isn't a option