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  1. #226
    Kawhichael 100%duncan's Avatar
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    And all that has nothing to do with Kawhi or anyone else outside of Josh Howard.

  2. #227
    Derrick White fanboy FkLA's Avatar
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    Kawhi is under the Spurs umbrella and based on reports is a hard working, quiet dude on his own. He still lives with his mom.

    Not to mention that just going off on pure physique, Howard never had the physical specimen type body Kawhi has. Even if their at udes were the same Kawhi would have a higher ceiling based on his physique alone tbh.

  3. #228
    you are a faggot Phillip's Avatar
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    top 10 and top 15 when he isn't even the clear cut 3rd best player on his own team.

  4. #229
    Believe.
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    top 10 and top 15 when he isn't even the clear cut 3rd best player on his own team.
    9-9 Team without Leonard, 18-7 with, hmmmmmm wonder if that guy is important?

  5. #230
    Derrick White fanboy FkLA's Avatar
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    top 10 and top 15 when he isn't even the clear cut 3rd best player on his own team.
    There is no argument for Kawhi not being at the very least 1a/1b alongside Timmy.

    Not sure if trolling or just that re ed. Probably the latter tbh.
    Last edited by FkLA; 01-22-2015 at 12:06 PM.

  6. #231
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    top 10 and top 15 when he isn't even the clear cut 3rd best player on his own team.
    I have to agree kawhi is not CLEARLY the best player in the team. But you are talking about a team with the best PF ever who seems not to age and 2 other HOFers.

    Tim Duncan is still the most important Spur. MVParker is the engine. But Kawhi is the lubrication to the entire machine. Spurs don't get anywhere without any of those 3.

    and yes, Kawhi has been playing as top 10 player in the league since his injury. Hopefully this will continue.

  7. #232
    you are a faggot Phillip's Avatar
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    and yes, Kawhi has been playing as top 10 player in the league since his injury.

  8. #233
    you are a faggot Phillip's Avatar
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    Since Mo Williams scored 50 the other night, he had a stretch in which he was clearly the best player in the NBA by a mile, since for a stretch, he averaged 50 ppg

  9. #234
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    agree 3 games is not much. we'll revisit in 2 weeks.

  10. #235
    No darkness Cry Havoc's Avatar
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    I could see him someday as a 17-20 ppg, 8 rpg, with ~1.5 blocks and 4 steals per game defensive monster. Really at this point, it's how much effort Kawhi himself puts in. He has a fantastic feel for the game and reacts on defense extremely quickly. He also has much better handles than he's given credit for, although he still needs to improve those as well.

    His ceiling is pretty damn high. The trade for George Hill looks more and more genius every day.
    4 steals

    But everything else is pretty close IMO

  11. #236
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    "the world, Chico. and everything in it..."

  12. #237
    The Boognish FuzzyLumpkins's Avatar
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    Watching him today, and the few times where he runs the pick and roll, he really has all the necessary tools to become a superstar one day, IMO.
    I actually think the pnr is by far the weakest part of his game. He has finding angles to scrape defenders and dealing with the grabbing and contact to maintain his dribble. He is fine when he is closer to the basket because he can pick the ball up and use that athleticism. Up high he will lose the handle when making those cuts and getting hit. He'll let the ball get wide on him and make a mess when he tries to recover the move.

  13. #238
    SeaGOAT midnightpulp's Avatar
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    top 10 and top 15 when he isn't even the clear cut 3rd best player on his own team.
    Tony Parker is a s of himself and is about the worst starting PG in the league defensively. His RAPM numbers are in the toilet.

    Leonard is the best rebounding SF in the league, arguably the best perimeter defender in the league, and is a threat to fill up the stat sheet in all categories. Anyone who doesn't think Leonard is at least a top 20 player focuses on raw offensive numbers too much.

  14. #239
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    Who tf knew it wasn't the dro talking when that Dro210 called him the next Pippen.

    Pippen 2.0, point forward once parker is gone in 3 yrs, perennial all-star tbh

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    To be fair, the last few poor performances by Kawhi came in games against teams with defensive juggernauts at SF like Matt Barnes, Kyle Singler, and CJ Miles.

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    To be fair, the last few poor performances by Kawhi came in games against teams with defensive juggernauts at SF like Matt Barnes, Kyle Singler, and CJ Miles.

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    To be fair, the last few poor performances by Kawhi came in games against teams with defensive juggernauts at SF like Matt Barnes, Kyle Singler, and CJ Miles.
    Jam with the not so subtles

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    To be fair, the last few poor performances by Kawhi came in games against teams with defensive juggernauts at SF like Matt Barnes, Kyle Singler, and CJ Miles.
    Jam goin in knee deep tbh.

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    I've never seen Leonard look so gassed as he did last night. In the first quarter no less.

  20. #245
    you are a faggot Phillip's Avatar
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    To be fair, the last few poor performances by Kawhi came in games against teams with defensive juggernauts at SF like Matt Barnes, Kyle Singler, and CJ Miles.
    Irrelevant.

    I want Leonard on my team over LeBron, MJ, or any other player ever because he is such a great, stand-up guy who does more than just score points, because lets be honest, scoring isn't all that important in basketball. You don't have to outscore your opponent to win games, you can out-rebound, out-defend, and out-class them and still win despite having less points, because scoring means hardly anything.

  21. #246
    ಥ﹏ಥ DAF86's Avatar
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    I think he certainly has a place in the NBA, and will consistently be a solid role player, but that's about it. Nothing wrong with that though. I'd say more of a Shane Battier, Tony Allen type of player. Mostly defense, capable of putting up some points when his team needs him to, but not necessarily a scorer.
    Tell me more.

  22. #247
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    Irrelevant.

    I want Leonard on my team over LeBron, MJ, or any other player ever because he is such a great, stand-up guy who does more than just score points, because lets be honest, scoring isn't all that important in basketball. You don't have to outscore your opponent to win games, you can out-rebound, out-defend, and out-class them and still win despite having less points, because scoring means hardly anything.
    Philly with the sarcasm goods

  23. #248
    TheDrewShow is salty lefty's Avatar
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    As i expected, his head got too big after winning the FMVP and he has become nonchalant


    Take him out of the starting lineup and see how he reacts

  24. #249
    Wrecks and Effects RsxPiimp's Avatar
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    Max player

  25. #250
    Klaw apalisoc_9's Avatar
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    As i expected, his head got too big after winning the FMVP and he has become nonchalant


    Take him out of the starting lineup and see how he reacts
    You want enrique to take 30 shots a game?

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