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    Funny how quickly you are able to dismiss this...funny how the people involved have been shaken up quite badly...
    Gunman Aaron Alexis killed 12 people.

    The BBC has also learned that four members of the highly trained team have
    applied for temporary leave, as they "grapple" with the aftermath of the
    incident.

    The Capitol Police department has not yet granted the request, nor given
    approval for them to use their own paid time off.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-24163244

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    Only a pretty ty American would sweep this incident under the rug, tbh

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    Members of the Containment and Emergency Response Team
    (Cert) are typically debriefed "right away, at the very least the following day"
    after an incident, a Capitol Police source said.

    "[They] haven't even been given the courtesy of a debrief… They have not even
    been given an answer as to why the decision was made that they should not
    respond," the source added.
    Yeah...looks anything but routine to me chump. Consider yourself out of the water. What other cheap bull can you spout. I'll wait.

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    Its a stand down. Have I said it enough now?
    We already know that.

    ay to change the question. But no, this type of "interdepartmental up" is not routine. Nothing about this scenario is routine, tbh. The crime is not routine. The call is not routine. The stand down order is not routine, because the emergency is not routine.
    ups happen.

    If you think it was done for some nefarious purpose, man the up and say it.

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    Do either of us know who issued the order? Do we actually know the policy that should have controlled? Do we know how much information was available at the time of the order? No. No. And no. Do we know whether it was done for some nefarious purpose? No. Have we shown reliable evidence that tends to prove that the Pentagon has planned false flag terrorists to strike US Naval facilities in the past? Yes or no.

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    Do either of us know who issued the order? Do we actually know the policy that should have controlled? Do we know how much information was available at the time of the order? No. No. And no. Do we know whether it was done for some nefarious purpose? No. Have we shown reliable evidence that tends to prove that the Pentagon has planned false flag terrorists to strike US Naval facilities in the past? Yes or no.
    Has there ever been a conspiracy you didn't swallow whole?

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    Do either of us know who issued the order? Do we actually know the policy that should have controlled? Do we know how much information was available at the time of the order? No. No. And no. Do we know whether it was done for some nefarious purpose? No. Have we shown reliable evidence that tends to prove that the Pentagon has planned false flag terrorists to strike US Naval facilities in the past? Yes or no.
    Do you think it was done for some nefarious reason?

    Yes or no.

    I do not.

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    This is mainstream media reporting facts that you clowns would rather not read. Instead, the lot of you would rather call each other suckers and proceed to fellate one another for hours (reference any thread on this board, page 5). I don't buy a ing thing. I QUESTION. Unlike the circle-jerk of statist conservatives and ultra-statist liberals who inhabit this intellectual vacuum on a daily basis.

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    This is mainstream media reporting facts that you clowns would rather not read.
    I accept the USA Today report.
    Blah blah blah
    Do you think it was done for nefarious purposes?

    Yes or no.

    I do not.

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    I answered with what I know. You answered with assumptions intended to make unpleasant facts go away. I answered with what I know, and that's the only answer I will give. Unlike you, I have no agenda sufficient to make me look away from certain FACTS.

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    What you think doesn't ing matter. The facts should be hashed out NO MATTER WHAT YOU THINK.

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    I answered with what I know. You answered with assumptions intended to make unpleasant facts go away. I answered with what I know, and that's the only answer I will give. Unlike you, I have no agenda sufficient to make me look away from certain FACTS.
    Of course you have an agenda.

    You just don't have the balls to say what you think really happened.

    I'm sensing a pattern here.

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    You should do more reading and less -sucker calling. You are losing your edge, Chump.

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    What you think doesn't ing matter. The facts should be hashed out NO MATTER WHAT YOU THINK.
    What I think matters just as much as what you think. I merely have the courage to say what I think anonymously on the internet. Not to say that takes a lot of courage, but as you have proved, it's more than you posses.

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    My agenda is to bring to light the facts that tend to make people question the official plot. Why should we not do that Chump?

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    What you think doesn't ing matter. The facts should be hashed out NO MATTER WHAT YOU THINK.
    And they will be. Why is your initial reaction a conspiratorial tailspin?

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    You should do more reading and less -sucker calling. You are losing your edge, Chump.
    You should say what you think happened. You never had an edge because you were always too afraid.

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    New thread for you in three...two..one...

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    New thread for you in three...two..one...
    Whatever keeps you from saying what you think really happened, I guess.

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    Navy Yard: Swat team 'stood down' at mass shooting scene

    18 September 2013 Last updated at 17:51 ET
    By Debbie Siegelbaum
    BBC News, Washington

    One of the first teams of heavily armed police to respond to Monday's shooting in Washington DC was ordered to stand down by superiors, the BBC can reveal.

    A tactical response team of the Capitol Police, a force that guards the US Capitol complex, was told to leave the scene by a supervisor instead of aiding municipal officers.

    The Capitol Police department has launched a review into the matter.

    Aaron Alexis, 34, killed 12 people at the Washington Navy Yard.

    "I don't think it's a far stretch to say that some lives may have been saved if we were allowed to intervene," a Capitol Police source familiar with the incident told the BBC.


    Assault weapons ready

    A former Navy reservist, Alexis was working as a technical contractor for the Navy and had a valid pass and security clearance allowing him entry to the highly secure building in south-east Washington DC.

    About 8:15 local time (12:15 GMT), Alexis entered Building 197, headquarters for Naval Sea Systems Command, which builds and maintains ships and submarines for the Navy, and opened fire.

    Armed with a shotgun and a pistol he took from a guard he had shot, he sprayed bullets down a hallway and fired from a balcony down on to workers in an atrium.

    He fired on police officers who eventually stormed the building, and was later killed in the shootout.

    Multiple sources in the Capitol Police department have told the BBC that its highly trained and heavily armed four-man Containment and Emergency Response Team (Cert) was near the Navy Yard when the initial report of an active shooter came in about 8:20 local time.

    The officers, wearing full tactical gear and armed with HK-416 assault weapons, arrived outside Building 197 a few minutes later, an official with knowledge of the incident told the BBC.


    'A different outcome'

    According to a Capitol Police source, an officer with the Metropolitan Police Department (MPD), Washington DC's main municipal force, told the Capitol Cert officers they were the only police on the site equipped with long guns and requested their help stopping the gunman.

    When the Capitol Police team radioed their superiors, they were told by a watch commander to leave the scene, the BBC was told.

    The gunman, Aaron Alexis, was reported killed after 09:00.

    Several Capitol Police sources who spoke to the BBC asked to remain anonymous for fear of reprisal.

    Capitol Police Officer Jim Konczos, who leads the officers' union, said the Cert police train for what are known as active shooter situations and are expert marksmen.

    "Odds are it might have had a different outcome," he said of Monday's shooting and the decision to order the Cert unit to stand down. "It probably could have been neutralised."

    Capitol Hill Police chief Kim Dine has ordered "a comprehensive, independent review of the facts surrounding the Capitol Police's response to the Navy Yard shootings".

    The Capitol Police Board responded by establishing what it called a "Fact Review Team", led by Michael Stenger, a former assistant director of the US Secret Service.

    Earlier, Capitol Police spokeswoman Lt Kimberly Schneider said its officers had "offered and provided mutual support and assistance at the Washington Navy Yard on Monday".


    more...

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/24153252

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    Capitol Hill Police chief Kim Dine has ordered "a comprehensive, independent review of the facts surrounding the Capitol Police's response to the Navy Yard shootings".
    great. Can we at least wait for the outcome before devolving into conspiracy theories?

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    great. Can we at least wait for the outcome before devolving into conspiracy theories?
    The details are not cooperating, tbh...
    Radios failed during Navy Yard attack, emergency responders say

    By Kevin Bogardus - 09/19/13 05:38 PM ET



    Radios for federal firefighters and police officers failed during Monday’s mass shooting at Washington’s Navy Yard, according to union representatives for first responders.

    Union officials said police and firefighters resorted to using their cellphones and radios from D.C.’s emergency responders to communicate with each other during the attack.



    Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/news/323...#ixzz2fb4XaeeI
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    The details are not cooperating, tbh...
    Cooperating with what? Police Radios fail and that is evidence of something sinister? You're a ing moron...

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    Well it's ing hole Kansas

    Journalism professor suspended after tweet, ‘blood is on the hands’ of NRA

    A journalism professor at the University of Kansas was placed on indefinite administrative leave Friday after he Tweeted about the Navy Yard shooting, saying “blood is on the hands of the #NRA. Next time, let it be YOUR sons and daughters.”

    Guth teaches media ethics, as well as strategic and crisis communications, among other classes.

    “In order to prevent disruptions to the learning environment for students, the School of Journalism and the university, I have directed Provost Jeffrey Vitter to place Associate Professor Guth on indefinite administrative leave pending a review of the entire situation,” Chancellor Bernadette Gray-Little said Friday in a press release. “Professor Guth’s classes will be taught by other faculty members.”

    “The news of the senseless slaughter today at Washington’s Navy Yard has me again questioning how we can let this madness continue. Frankly, I don’t care if I am criticized for being too quick to judge, too harsh in my criticism or too strident in my tone. The time has passed for niceties and tact. The blood spilled today is on the hands of the National Rifle Association. I don’t care how the NRA tries to spin this.”

    His Twitter account, @DWGuth, has been disabled.


    Kansas lawmakers and the Kansas NRA quickly called for his removal after the tweet drew the attention of a conservative activist campus reform site. Kansas Senate Majority Leader Terry Bruce, R-Hutchinson, called on the school to dismiss Guth, noting on Facebook that “Wishing death and damnation upon parents and their children is reprehensible and is not befitting of an employee of such a distinguished university.”

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/2...-hands-of-nra/

    freedom of speech for gun fellators and right-wingers is not to bused speaking AGAINST them.

    more guns = more gun violence, more gun deaths

    NRA and gun fellators = soft on crime, blood on their hands for 1000s of dead



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