I just now looked at the pictures on the Dove site and all of those girls are really nice looking. It's pretty sad when those women are considered unattractive.
Yep........I used to feel so depressed in High School trying to get myself to look like one of those pefect Barbie Doll girls, now when I see high school girls walking around the mall with their friends, decked out in tight jeans, belly bearing tanks, scrunched up hair and more makeup on than I use all week....I feel this need to go up to them, and shake them silly wanting to tell them to snap out of it and tell them that it's not that important!
I just now looked at the pictures on the Dove site and all of those girls are really nice looking. It's pretty sad when those women are considered unattractive.
What it comes down to is this (in my opinion at least). Everyone has a different perception as to what attractive is. Its what you feed your mind. If all you watch a lot of TV and see nothing but thin women with the straight and white teeth with non-damaged hair and so on and guys drooling over them then eventually you too will believe that only women who look like that are hot. Same goes for women. If all you keep feeding your mind is that a good looking man has to have a washboard stomach, nice shoes, a fat bank account, a handsome face, and so on then you too will believe that is what makes a man hot. Its what you feed your mind.
I have dated women who fit the TV ads somewhat and after a few dates it was over. I have dated women who would never appear on Bow Flew commercial and after a few dates it was over. It has nothing to do with looks when it comes down to it. Its chemistry. If you feel that connection then thats it. Its those butterflies, the school boy feeling that matter.
Yeah it does - unless you have a metabolism like my sister. I wish I had known then how much I would up my metabolism worrying about stuff like that when I was younger.
90%+ of everything we see in movies, on TV, in magazines, and on the internet is fantasy. The news is more and more in that direction, too. Of course, men and women are not going to compare to what we see when the vast majority of what we see is the top 1% beautiful people (by media standards, maybe not yours personally).
If you have to always interact with the top 1% smartest people all the time, then you would feel dumb. The media saturates with the beautiful, so that makes us feel ugly.
As far as the ad is concerned, none of those ladies are close to being fat and they all look very fit. I would guess they are lower range of the recommended weight. Maybe they are in the top 5% rather than the top 1%. It is amazing to me that's all it takes to consider someone fat.
Got a question for SW, S y and other parents....IMO, the parents of these kids who see these images of "the perfect body" have a responsibility to educate their kids about what is real and what is not (as with everything else in life) do you agree with that and what do you do for your kids to help them realize the difference between reality and fantasy.
Yeah, we parents do have a responsibility. I have two teenage girls and, luckily, they haven't fully fallen for that crap yet. But I still hear the odd "I'm fat" comment every so often. (Trust me...not even close) But that's all it is...just the odd comment. No eating disorders or anything like that.
Plus, they both realize that they do tend to gain a little weight in the spring and summer...but come August and the beginning of band camp, it's all going away. That helps...they do have a healthy outlet for some of that weight "frustration".
Well, since I have boys, there's not much pressure on them as girls. But if they do say someone is fat (boy or girl), I do remind them that it's not nice to make comments and that as a kid I was always picked on by my older brother and sister about my weight and it wasn't fun. I also remind them that even though they are thin now, things change.
Besides, even though I'm perfect, they do see me when I wake up in the morning! Not a pretty sight
Bottom line is, I am trying to teach them not to judge a person based on their looks.
nahh...still perfect!Besides, even though I'm perfect, they do see me when I wake up in the morning! Not a pretty sight
Reality is the cute boy she likes liking someone else because they are skinnier than her, and telling that to her to her face (kids suck). You can tell them until they are blue in the face that what's inside is the most important, and that every one is different....but it doesn't change the reality that the boy she likes likes someone else because they are skinnier than her, because that's what HE said.
That certainly doesn't mean I've given up trying to help her ... but it's very difficult to deal with because I know it doesn't get much better when you get older.
That just sucks.
agreed.
damn..from a 9/10 year old?
Big hugs to your daughter.
Yeah, that doesn't surprise me, unfortunately. Middle school kids are the absolute worst. By the time they're in high school, some of that has gone away. (I'm not saying it's all gone away, but that's the trend). Middle school kids are just starting to go through puberty and hormones and all that and are pretty much clueless as to what's going on inside.
Serious big hugs.
SW, if you want...tell us who the kid was and Manny, Blaze, Zak and I will go kick his ass...and his parents.
Kids are seriously mean. I really wanted to go kick his mom's ass for not teaching him any tact.
SW, if you want...tell us who the kid was and Manny, Blaze, Zak and I will go kick his ass...and his parents.
You've got the right idea.
If they're lucky, they learn as they get older. Some don't. Last guy I dated dumped me for a Coors Light girl. He said, "I'm sorry. I never wanted to hurt you. It's just that... when an opportunity like this comes along, you have to take it."Kids are seriously mean. I really wanted to go kick his mom's ass for not teaching him any tact.
is the boy that she likes a skinny kid?
if that happens to my daughter, i would naturally want to smack that little kid and his parents as well...but i can't control them, so instead?
I'll take a good look at her and myself and ask her what she thinks we should/could do about it.
Man....Good thing you found out before you got married or whatever. What an asshole.
Oh thats just ed up.
Elaborate, please.
Man, I jumped on this thread late. I'm not sure where to add my 2 cents or pile on.
I have no problems with the ads, and I find most of the women in them very attractive. I personally find all types of women attractive. I've dated such a variety of women that I don't think you could ever fit me into a mold as far as physical appearence goes.
I think most men are the same way.
But as many men have said in this thread, it is women who carry much of the burden on what type of women are featured in the ads that target women. And while everyone complains about them, the ads are successful at selling their products to their target demographic.
Victoria Secret ads suck according to many of the women in here. , the last time I walked past a VS (the one in Rivercenter) they had the ribs showing on the manequins.
But then I pose a question to those same women. How many of you have VS hanging in your closet or in your drawers? How many of you have supported what they have done with your money?
One thing talks, and it is the reason Dove is doing what they are doing. Dove isn't running these ads because their marketing execs feel all warm and fuzzy by putting a real woman on TV. They are doing it because they will recieve a positive response from their target demographic by standing out.
every situation is different.
that's for each parent/child to determine on their own.
i'm not a parent and i'm not in that situation, so i cannot randomly speculate.
however, i can speak about myself.
i was a fat kid and am a fat adult. i would have appreciated it if my
stepfather would have been more educated and involved with my diet and physical fitness.
that's right! BigZak gotta choke a ?You've got the right idea.
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