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    So what about this scenario?

    Spurs trade Splitter to Boston for Rozier and Joseph to Toronto for Noguiera. Spurs rope Portland into the deal, making it a three-way with Noguiera, Thomas and a second going over to Portland in exchange for Aldridge. The the Spurs use the LLE to sign Neal and the MLE to sign Biyombo. They also bring Baynes back for another year. Then they re-sign Tim, Manu, Green and of course Leonard.

    End up with this as their lineup:

    Parker, Mills, Rozier
    Green, Ginobili, Neal
    Leonard, Anderson, LJC
    Aldridge, Diaw, LaLanne
    Duncan, Baynes, Biyombo

    Seems like the best combo of skill-sets that you can hope for. Can compete for the next two season and leave almost nothing on the books for 2017:

    Parker, Rozier
    Green
    Leonard, Anderson
    LaLanne (RFA or third year or deal)
    Maybe Biyombo

    And two max slots
    Lol. Dream scenario tbh. I don't see the fo being able to do that well. Sweet work. Hope pop rc put the bottle down long enough to read this post.

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    So what about this scenario?

    Spurs trade Splitter to Boston for Rozier and Joseph to Toronto for Noguiera. Spurs rope Portland into the deal, making it a three-way with Noguiera, Thomas and a second going over to Portland in exchange for Aldridge. The the Spurs use the LLE to sign Neal and the MLE to sign Biyombo. They also bring Baynes back for another year. Then they re-sign Tim, Manu, Green and of course Leonard.

    End up with this as their lineup:

    Parker, Mills, Rozier
    Green, Ginobili, Neal
    Leonard, Anderson, LJC
    Aldridge, Diaw, LaLanne
    Duncan, Baynes, Biyombo

    Seems like the best combo of skill-sets that you can hope for. Can compete for the next two season and leave almost nothing on the books for 2017:

    Parker, Rozier
    Green
    Leonard, Anderson
    LaLanne (RFA or third year or deal)
    Maybe Biyombo

    And two max slots
    Pretty much best case scenario!!

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    So what about this scenario?

    Spurs trade Splitter to Boston for Rozier and Joseph to Toronto for Noguiera. Spurs rope Portland into the deal, making it a three-way with Noguiera, Thomas and a second going over to Portland in exchange for Aldridge. The the Spurs use the LLE to sign Neal and the MLE to sign Biyombo. They also bring Baynes back for another year. Then they re-sign Tim, Manu, Green and of course Leonard.

    End up with this as their lineup:

    Parker, Mills, Rozier
    Green, Ginobili, Neal
    Leonard, Anderson, LJC
    Aldridge, Diaw, LaLanne
    Duncan, Baynes, Biyombo

    Seems like the best combo of skill-sets that you can hope for. Can compete for the next two season and leave almost nothing on the books for 2017:

    Parker, Rozier
    Green
    Leonard, Anderson
    LaLanne (RFA or third year or deal)
    Maybe Biyombo

    And two max slots
    - The Raptors just drafted a defensive minded PG, with limited range and they have no current or long term backup for Valanciunas, so I doubt they'd make that trade.

    - I'd be surprised if Neal were brought back. I don't think Pop was ever a fan.

    - Biyombo is the exact opposite of the type of player they generally pursue.

    - I don't know why you keep listing Jean-Charles as an SF and now LaLanne as a PF.

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    Antic to sign with Turkey. Atlanta looks more, and more as a viable landing spot for Tiago.

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    Boston still has a $12.9 mil player exception from the Rondo trade, if that helps any.

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    I like the idea of a ty team that is able to eat his $10m contract under the cap for a potential lottery ball. The market for picks is never lower than right after the draft. We had multiple teams bidding at the draft. Curious to see what happens now. Most teams didn't get a big better than Tiago.

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    I like the idea of a ty team that is able to eat his $10m contract under the cap for a potential lottery ball. The market for picks is never lower than right after the draft. We had multiple teams bidding at the draft. Curious to see what happens now. Most teams didn't get a big better than Tiago.
    Not to mention a better big than Tiago on a two year, reasonably priced deal. They don't have to s out ridiculous dollars on a 4 year contract. If the Spurs can get the Celtics pick next year, I'd be intrigued. Not sure that team makes the playoffs next year in the East with Indiana and Miami almost certainly improving, though everything else is a crap shoot.

    From Celtics perspective, they can see how Tiago fits in (I think very well given what they're trying to do) and either keep running with him, or unload him at either this or next trade deadline for a bigger haul. Could then have significant cap space going with the huge cap bump a year from now.

    And totally agree on waiting for post-draft to get better value on the pick. Spurs don't want anyone for this year anyway, so there was no need to push pick to this year.

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    I can see Boston nabbing Splitter. They have a smart coach who can see his value.

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    Plus Boston has tons of picks they're ready to spray around, as witnessed in how they tried to get Winslow Justise.

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    How much salary can the Spurs take back (if any) if they send Splitter out, and still have the cap space to sign LMA?

    For example if they send him to Orlando, could they take back an asset like Mo Harkless, Nicholson, or Evan Fournier (each about 2.5m) and still open up the needed space?

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    I can see Boston nabbing Splitter. They have a smart coach who can see his value.
    yep trade for Zeller, Turner, Olynyk and pick up Milsap not LMA - win win

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    yep trade for Zeller, Turner, Olynyk and pick up Milsap not LMA - win win
    No. No, no, no. No.

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    No. No, no, no. No.
    and your reasons?

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    and your reasons?
    If that's your plan, keep Splitter.

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    It has begun..

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    If that's your plan, keep Splitter.
    so you are saying splitter is better than all four of those players combined?

    1. Splitter will fail as soon as Tim goes
    2. Splitter has no offense
    3. If you want a defensive big, Chandler is by far better
    4. This provides depth at the FC which spurs don't have
    5. It addresses a bench SG that will do things other than shoot.

    Its not my plan, but I would much rather have Paul than Lamarcus = I think Milsap is a better worker, and less of an ego.

    I don't like Splitter, never have, and with his injuries, as tick tacky as Parker's, I like him even less. Move him before he Andrew Bynum's the Spurs.

    Again, your reasons to keep the oft injured, can't play in many playoff-instances Tiago?

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    so you are saying splitter is better than all four of those players combined?

    1. Splitter will fail as soon as Tim goes
    2. Splitter has no offense
    3. If you want a defensive big, Chandler is by far better
    4. This provides depth at the FC which spurs don't have
    5. It addresses a bench SG that will do things other than shoot.

    Its not my plan, but I would much rather have Paul than Lamarcus = I think Milsap is a better worker, and less of an ego.

    I don't like Splitter, never have, and with his injuries, as tick tacky as Parker's, I like him even less. Move him before he Andrew Bynum's the Spurs.

    Again, your reasons to keep the oft injured, can't play in many playoff-instances Tiago?
    Only Millsap is a starter of the players you mention and Splitter is much better in terms of what we do. Not sure why you mention Chandler at all.

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    Only Millsap is a starter of the players you mention and Splitter is much better in terms of what we do. Not sure why you mention Chandler at all.
    Uncertain why you need to place this in terms of "starter?" I care more about who plays well and finishes the game.

    Second, Zeller started over 100 games in his career, including 59 this year. Stats are similar to splitter, really. This year Zeller and Splitter both had an 18.9 PER Zeller had the advantage in WS/48 and splitter was a 1.4 VORP and Zeller 1.2….

    Chandler was mentioned because of what he does for his team is similar to what splitter does for SA.

    So, in that trade you have Zeller, who is statistically equal to Splitter, and Milsap who is easily better than Splitter, along with a viable backup (better than Ayers anyway) and a SG. You must have responded without looking for any evidence.

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    yep trade for Zeller, Turner, Olynyk and pick up Milsap not LMA - win win
    The Spurs would have no room to sign a blue-chip free agent, and moving Splitter for Millsap is wrong-headed anywho. There'd be no one to be the backup center, while there'd be four PFs on the roster.

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    Some crazy s in here Golden God > Trillsap IMVHO

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    No Tiago No le, I guarantee it.

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    The Spurs would have no room to sign a blue-chip free agent, and moving Splitter for Millsap is wrong-headed anywho. There'd be no one to be the backup center, while there'd be four PFs on the roster.
    kind of, but think how teams are playing and winning now. There really isn't a dominant center that carries a team. Its all perimeter players, and hustle. It would be different, possibly, during the Shaq, Hakeem era, but now who is dominant in the post?

    Basketball is the ultimate - take the best available player, its not football where you have to have certain skill sets to be effective at a certain position.

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