Hillary is in major trouble.

[boutons_deux]

^^^marching orders from Daily Kos

so you swallowed the Repug fabrication like a big ?

Benghazi!

If the Repugs lips are moving, they're LYING, and you are listening to every word as Gospel truth.

[boutons_deux]

Trey Gowdy wants Hillary Clinton's email to be the story. But what about his $4 million witch hunt?




Under Trey Gowdy's direction, the House Benghazi Committee has long since turned into a Hillary Clinton digging expedition, seeking anything—however unrelated to Benghazi—that might hurt Clinton's presidential chances. And, according to a new internal poll conducted by Public Policy Polling for Correct the Record, a pro-Clinton group, voters are starting to notice.

• 54% of voters nationally think the primary motivation of Gowdy’s investigation is politics and hurting Hillary Clinton, compared to only 40% who think it’s actually about getting to the bottom of what happened in Benghazi.
• 62% of voters think that Gowdy should release his e-mails related to the investigation, compared to just 27% who don’t think he should have to. There’s a bipartisan consensus on the need for Gowdy to release his e-mails with majorities of Democrats (70/17), Republicans (58/35), and independents (53/33) all in agreement on the matter.
• Voters see it as a basic fairness issue- only 39% think it’s reasonable for Gowdy to demand Clinton release her e-mails while declining to release his own, compared to 56% who think he’s employing a double standard by his refusal to make his e-mails available.

This is an internal poll by a pro-Clinton group, and the questions reflect that—

basically, this lets us know that voters who hear that Gowdy has "refused repeated requests to release his own emails to shed a light on his investigation which has cost taxpayers over $4 million" will respond by saying yes, he should turn over his emails, and that voters who hear that Gowdy has "turned his focus away from what happened in Benghazi to Hillary Clinton’s choice of email practices and has demanded access to all of her emails including personal emails" and is planning to continue his investigation into 2016 will see Gowdy's investigation as partisan.

The fact that voters feel this way given these pieces of information is of limited use if voters never hear it—and the New York Times and Fox News sure aren't putting this in big screaming headlines—but it's a message to Democrats and particularly Clinton supporters that this is a message worth publicizing.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/0...28Daily+Kos%29

So Hillary has to turn over her emails to witch hunter Gowdy, but Gowdy refuses to turn over his emails to anybody.

[boutons_deux]

The Clinton Rules: About that "classified info" - what about the stuff not on Hillary's server?

Josh Gerstein writes:

Classified emails passed through commercial email services like Google and AOL on their path to or from a private server maintained by Hillary Clinton when she was secretary of state, but so far, the government appears to have done little to retrieve or secure the messages.

Also too, the FBI appears to have done nothing to capture the "classified info" sitting in the State Department's unsecured system. It's as if no one really gives a sh*t about the "classified info" that isn't on Hilary Clinton's server.

Gerstein writes:

The nonchalant response to messages stored on commercial servers contrasts sharply with recent FBI efforts to take possession of email copies on a thumb drive maintained by Clinton’s attorney David Kendall and on a server kept by a Denver tech company that managed Clinton’s account.

Gee. No one actually cares about this apparently. Other than for political effect of course. Steven Aftergood notes:

[The two reactions] are discordant, and they reflect inconsistent notions of information security[.] They are totally incompatible positions.

It only makes sense if eGhazi is just a political witch hunt. Hey now!

A government official notes:

The logic is classic government logic: If I know classified material is in place X, I’m going to go get it,” said one former senior State Department official. “They’re not going to, without reasonable cause, start searching everyone’s home email. In a sense, [Clinton] is suffering the mortification on behalf of the entire department.”

If they REALLY care, they'll discover it's not just the State Department. It' the entire government.

But that takes away from the political witchhunt.

There is no there there when it comes to eGhazi. Except of course, as a cudgel for use by Hillary Haters. (NOTE - Clinton's political stupidity is manifest here. She forgot about the Clinton Rules. which she should never ever forget.)

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2015/9...lary-s-server-

[CosmicCowboy]

dailykos

40% of DEMOCRATS think Gowdy is trying to get to the bottom of the Clinton mess.

And Boo thinks that is good?

[boutons_deux]

dailykos

40% of DEMOCRATS think Gowdy is trying to get to the bottom of the Clinton mess.

And Boo thinks that is good?

Fox/Repug propaganda, lying, slander are truly excellent. In fact, those are their major skills. Repeat Repeat Repeat LIES until idiots believe them.

Gotta remember, Americans, even Dem ones, are pretty ing stupid, politically disengaged, easily duped.

There is no there there.

Why should anyone believe Fox, Repugs on HRC's email when the Repugs have done nothing but witch hunt, lie, slander, propagandize, blowing smoke out of their asses hoping to create fire, and be totally wrong on every other "issue", fabricated or not (eg, ACA is a job killer, will destroy America. Hillary personally caused Benghazi deaths. Her assistant is a Muslim terrorist mole).

[CosmicCowboy]

Fox/Repug propaganda, lying, slander are truly excellent. In fact, those are their major skills. Repeat Repeat Repeat LIES until idiots believe them.

Gotta remember, Americans, even Dem ones, are pretty ing stupid, politically disengaged, easily duped.

There is no there there.

Why should anyone believe Fox, Repugs on HRC's email when the Repugs have done nothing but witch hunt, lie, slander, propagandize, blowing smoke out of their asses hoping to create fire, and be totally wrong on every other "issue", fabricated or not (eg, ACA is a job killer, will destroy America. Hillary personally caused Benghazi deaths. Her assistant is a Muslim terrorist mole).

Read your own article dumbass.

This is an internal poll by a pro-Clinton group, and the questions reflect that—

[boutons_deux]

Read your own article dumbass.

I read the article before I linked it. Dems can be dumb as you TX rednecks.

There is no "bottom" to get to. Like Benghazi!!!, the Repugs will drag out the email fabricated scandal for months, and certainly into next year, and right up to November if Hillary is the candidate.

[spurraider21]

I read the article before I linked it.

You lie.

[Winehole23]

so you swallowed the Repug fabrication like a big ?

Benghazi!

If the Repugs lips are moving, they're LYING, and you are listening to every word as Gospel truth.

WaPo, NYT and McClatchy take marching orders from the GOP?

Nice try, come again.

[Winehole23]

Benghazi was bs, but this isn't. It was colossal incompetence at best.

[Winehole23]

foxlike guile at worst

[boutons_deux]

WaPo, NYT and McClatchy take marching orders from the GOP?

Nice try, come again.

Fox, Repugs are truly excellent at FUD, slander, LIES.

[boutons_deux]

Benghazi was bs, but this isn't. It was colossal incompetence at best.

it's colossal amplification by Fox and Repugs, you sucking their as much as anybody.

[JoeChalupa]

She needs to get her "act" together and quick. Damn, she comes across as so scripted and boring as . Stop reading from your notes and just talk to the people.
At least Joe Biden can speak from his heart and connect. Hillary is her worse own enemy.

[hater]

Hillary is a neocon. Why would anyone want that in office?

[boutons_deux]

She needs to get her "act" together and quick. Damn, she comes across as so scripted and boring as . Stop reading from your notes and just talk to the people.
At least Joe Biden can speak from his heart and connect. Hillary is her worse own enemy.

so personality and "beauty contests" is what electing a US President is about?

which of Hillary's policies do you object to?

go have a beer with uninteresting and uninterested dubya, and he'll waste 5000+ military lives

[boutons_deux]

Exclusive: Republicans Really Hate Hillary Clinton / New Data From That Hillary Clinton ‘Liar’ Poll Tells a Different Story


Last night a friend pointed me to a piece at Mediaite by Tommy Christopher.Christopher asked Quinnipiac for the crosstabs of that famous poll in which the top description of Hillary Clinton was "liar," and what he discovered will surprise exactly no one. You can click the link for all the gory details,

but here it is in a nuts : roughly speaking, the only people who described Hillary as a liar were Republicans. And the reason that word so badly outnumbered the others is that Republicans used it in lockstep. The positive descriptions of Hillary were all over the map, so no single one of them racked up big numbers.


In other words, there's actually no news here at all. Republicans hate Hillary, Democrats love Hillary, and independents are unsure. It may well be that Hillary Clinton has an image problem that she needs to work on, but it's pretty much the same image problem she's had forever.



http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-dru...illary-clinton

[hater]

I'm independent and shes a damned liar.

[TeyshaBlue]

it's colossal amplification by Fox and Repugs, you sucking their as much as anybody.

How many times do I have to tell you.... Don't talk when your mouth is full.

[JoeChalupa]

Even on the Tonight Show she couldn't pull it off.

[Spurtacular]

Hillary is a neocon. Why would anyone want that in office?

Explain.

[hater]

Explain.

Voted for Iraq war and was in favor of many interventions overseas. Supports droning and spying. She would love nothing more than to feed the MIC with blood of civilians and us soldiers.

Neocon
S

[Spurtacular]

Voted for Iraq war and was in favor of many interventions overseas. Supports droning and spying. She would love nothing more than to feed the MIC with blood of civilians and us soldiers.

Neocon
S

Fair enough. So is Obama then.

[boutons_deux]

Fair enough. So is Obama then.

Obama voted against the Iraq war, Hillary, Bernie voted for it. Obama "ended" the Iraq war by implementing the Repug withdrawal agreement. Obama hasn't started any wars, while Hillary talks tough about going to war.

otoh, the MIC has been running wild with 800 US bases around the planet, and murdering all kinds of supposed terrorists, anywhere. "Why Do They Hate Us?"

[hater]

Fair enough. So is Obama then.

Agreed