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Got Damn, Einstein is in the building!
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Got Damn, Einstein is in the building!
Then why are you conflating the two? You commented on how usps would be horrible bankers and I rebutted that banks would gouge users with fees if they were responsible for the usps. So tell me cc, how the does fedex and ups play into the conversation?
They are all evil, predatory, for profit corporations, Einstein.
The USPS is great for shipping to rural areas. For instance, sometimes when I go backpacking I'll mail food supplies Priority Mail and the post office will hold onto it for me until I can hike there. I can't get that service out of UPS or FedEx in small towns and no way I want to buy food supplies in town and spend forever repacking them to fit in a bear canister (which is a must hiking in parts of California, since the bears there know how to take down food that's tied up even when you do it perfectly).
But that's just it, they're not. You don't seem to be able to grasp that basic concept.
UPS is far and away the worst for me when it comes to mangled packages, with FedEx the best and USPS so-so.
"lose billions every year and get bailed out year after year by the Government."
USPS wouldn't be losing if the Repugs hadn't destroyed profitability, tried to destroy USPS, with requirement to fund upfront 75 years of pensions. No other organization, public or private, does that.
And for-profit orgs often show "profit" by stealing or underfunding their CONTRACTUAL pension obligations.
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You don't think companies should fund their future pension obligations?
sure, so why don't all for-profit companies do it?
but through 1975? and decades in advance? That's pure bad-faith, destructive, hate-govt Repug ideology. the Repugs to .
And all those rural USPS offices the Repugs want to close? They're used DAILY by their rural base.
Isn't the Federal government supposed to be a model enterprise?
also, are you claiming that UPS and FEdEx will default on their pension obligations?
Bernie says he is leading both Trump and Hillary in the polls.
Huh?
What polls?
federal govt is supposed to the federal govt. it's not an "enterprise", if you mean "profit making" enterprise
"are you claiming that UPS and FEdEx will default on their pension obligations"
who knows? if they get in trouble, mgmt and investors come first, employees come last.
anyway, haven't their drivers been "ubered" into being self-employed, independent contractors?
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Poll: Sanders cutting close to Clinton nationally
the poll shows her way behind with voters under 45 years of age. Sanders has 60 percent support in that cohort, with Clinton at 31 percent.
Clinton has a double-digit lead among women in the poll, taking 53 percent support over Sanders’s 39 percent. Still, the Vermont senator has cut significantly into her lead, picking up 10 points among women over the same survey from December.
Sanders has huge leads over Clinton among self-described liberals and younger voters, while the former secretary of State boasts big leads over Sanders among self-described moderates and older voters.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...ton-nationally
Hillary says she's not worried, but she and Chelsea, probably Slick Willy soon, gettin nasty spewing bull about Bernie
Sanders Decries Clinton's 'Karl Rove Tactics' In Health Care Criticism
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) on Wednesday blasted Hillary Clinton over her campaign's recent criticism of his health care proposals.
"Hillary Clinton once said it 'undermined core Democratic values' and gives 'aid and comfort' to the special interests and 'their allies in the Republican Party' for Democrats to attack each other’s health care plans. Today, in another flip-flop, she’s doing exactly what she once decried," a statement from Sanders' campaign reads.
"Clinton’s attacks on a Democratic Party rival over universal health care marks a very public flip flop by her and her campaign. She is now using the same Karl Rove tactics she once decried in this video," the statement continues, linking to a video of Clinton criticizing Barack Obama's presidential campaign for attacking her proposal for universal health care during the 2008 campaign.
Over the past few days, Clinton's campaign has been critical of Sanders' proposal for universal health care. The former secretary of state suggested in November that Sanders' plan would raise taxes on the middle class. And this week, she characterized his state-based plan as a "risky deal" that would turn "over your and my health insurance to governors."
While campaigning for Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire on Tuesday, Chelsea Clinton expanded on her mother's characterization of Sanders' plan. Chelsea Clinton warned voters against Sanders' health care policy and argued that his state-based, single-payer plan would give too much power to governors, who could block the plan's full implementation.
"Sen. Sanders wants to dismantle Obamacare, dismantle the CHIP program, dismantle Medicare, and dismantle private insurance," she said, according to NBC News. "I worry if we give Republicans democratic permission to do that, we'll go back to an era -- before we had the Affordable Care Act -- that would strip millions and millions and millions of people of their health insurance."
”I don’t want to live in a country that has an unequal health care system again," she continued, according to The Hill. "So I don’t want to empower Republican governors to take away Medicaid, to take away health insurance for low-income and middle-income working Americans. And I think very much that’s what Sen. Sanders plan would do."
Hillary Clinton then backed her daughter up in a Wednesday morning interview on ABC's "Good Morning America."
"You know, I adore my daughter and I know what she was saying," Hillary Clinton said. "Because if you look at Senator Sanders’ proposals going back nine times in the Congress, that’s exactly what he’s proposed. To take everything we currently know as health care, Medicare, Medicaid, the CHIP Program, private insurance, now of the Affordable Care Act, and roll it together."
Sanders hit back against both Clintons' remarks on Tuesday night and Wednesday.
During an interview on CNN following the State of the Union address Tuesday night, Sanders said that Chelsea Clinton's characterization of his program was wrong.
"Unfortunately, I have to say, as much as I admire Chelsea, she didn't read the plan," he said. "And where she is absolutely wrong — this is a plan that works in 50 states in this country, whether you have conservative Republicans or progressive Democrats. It's a national program,"
Sanders elaborated on his defense in a Wednesday afternoon interview on MSNBC, calling Chelsea Clinton's comments "factually incorrect."
"The way the legislation we have introduced in the past was written -- and obviously is what we believe in -- is that if a Republican governor doesn't want it, it will be implemented by the federal government," Sanders said, adding that he hopes the Clinton campaign will stop using that line of attack.
In his statement released on Wednesday, Sanders' campaign chalked up the Clinton campaign's ramped up criticism of his health care proposals to fear that he is doing well in the polls.
"In the wake of new polls showing that Sen. Bernie Sanders’ campaign is gaining ground or leading in the Iowa caucuses, Clinton’s campaign has stepped up attacks on Sanders and his health care proposal," the statement reads.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/bernie-sanders-chelsea-clinton-health-care?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_cam paign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29
81% of Democrats Support Single Payer, as well as 58% of all Americans
From the Kaiser Health Tracking poll,December 2015:
When asked their opinion, nearly 6 in 10 Americans (58 percent) say they favor the idea of Medicare-for-all, including 34 percent who say they strongly favor it.
This is compared to 34 percent who say they oppose it, including 25 percent who strongly oppose it. Opinions vary widely by political party identification, with 8 in 10 Democrats (81 percent) and 6 in 10 independents (60 percent) saying they favor the idea, while 63 percent of Republicans say they oppose it.
Hillary Clinton’s opposition to Single Payer, and it is worth Chelsea Clinton bemoaned the elimination of private insurance today, is a deeply minority position within the Democratic Party.
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016...s?detail=email
Bernie is surging.
you guys are dreaming. Bernie has zero chance.
If or when Hillary stumbles the Dems will come up with another alternative....Brown, Biden, etc.
Hillary exudes charisma........... the only thing necessary to get elected in 2016............ lol.
nope.
BTW, Bernie comes off as a crazy old man.
President Trump is happening sadly.
Clinton’s attacks produce windfall of campaign cash for Sanders
Hillary Clinton’s new barrage against Bernie Sanders, the Democratic presidential primary opponent she has all but ignored through most of her campaign, is having an effect — though probably not the one she intended.
Sanders’s underdog campaign said it is seeing a surge of contributions as a direct result of the new attention it is getting from the Democratic front-runner, with money coming in at a clip nearly four times the average daily rate reported in the last quarter of 2015.
In its email appeals for money, the campaign accused the Clinton campaign of making “vicious and coordinated attacks” on Sanders’s health-care plan, which calls for a government-run system. Sanders’s strategists are also considering rolling out advertising beyond the early-contest states where it is airing spots now.
The former secretary of state and her team have stepped up their criticism of Sanders on a variety of fronts in recent days as polls have begun to show him edging even with her in Iowa — and, for the first time, looking compe ive in a national poll. But the Clinton strategy may be backfiring in some ways.
“Thanks, Team Clinton,” Sanders spokesman Michael Briggs said Wednesday afternoon.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...d=ss_fb-bottom
Hillary Clinton’s Single-Payer Pivot Greased By Millions in Industry Speech Fees
Hillary Clinton’s sudden attack on Bernie Sanders’ single-payer health care plan is a dramatic break with Democratic Party doctrine that the problem with single-payer is that it is politically implausible — not that it is a bad idea.
Single-payer, the Canadian-style system in which the government pays for universal health care, takes the health insurance industry out of the picture, saving huge amounts of money. But the health insurance industry has become so rich and powerful that it would never let it happen.
That was certainly Clinton’s position back in the early 1990s, when she was developing her doomed universal coverage proposal for her husband, Bill.
But in the ensuing years, both Clintons have taken millions of dollars in speaking fees from the health care industry. According to public disclosures, Hillary Clinton alone, from 2013 to 2015, made $2,847,000 from 13 paid speeches to the industry.
This means that Clinton brought in almost as much in speech fees from the health care industry as she did from the banking industry. As a matter of perspective, recall that most Americans don’t earn $2.8 million over their lifetimes.
Hillary Clinton’s record on single-payer dates back to 1993, when she was tasked to help formulate White House policy. According to the notes of former Clinton confidante Diane Blair, Clinton told her husband during a dinner in February 1993 that “managed compe ion” — a private health insurance market — was “a crock, single payer necessary; maybe add to Medicare.”
she told them they made a “convincing case, but is there any force on the face of the earth that could counter the hundreds of millions of the dollars the insurance industry would spend fighting that?”
“by the year 2000 we will have a single-payer system. I don’t think it’s — I don’t think it’s a close call politically. I think the momentum for a single-payer system will sweep the country.”
https://theintercept.com/2016/01/13/hillary-clinton-single-payer/
BigHealthCare makes govt policy to protect/enrich itself while looting Human-Americans
Hillary Clinton on Universal Health Care in 2008
Hillary Clinton once said it “undermined core Democratic values” and gives “aid and comfort” to the special interests and “their allies in the Republican Party” for Democrats to attack each other’s health care plans.
Today, in another flip-flop, she’s doing exactly what she once decried.
https://www.facebook.com/berniesande...type=2&theater
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