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    That's assuming the hadith is authenticated and not made up like thousands of hadith have been.
    So why would you follow unauthenticated hadith? Learn authentication yourself and see whats wrong and whats not if you trully seek knwoledge

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    No but DMC is saying that people can interpret it differently, especially when they don't know the full translation and have to rely on others.
    Since this is an islam thread, i will refrain talking about christianity..

    And a student learns from a teacher. Thats why you need to rely on mufasireen to understand the meaning or be a mufasir yourself

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    It's become a religious one unfortunately in the last 30 years.
    How is something not taught by a religion a religious one?

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    Why is the religions fault that some people interpret differently? In Islam hadith context is the answer. You are trying to talk about two things you have minimal knwoeldge about
    What is a religion without people? It cannot exist in a vacuum. The fact that the religion can morph over the years because a larger percentage of its followers shift their world view is enough evidence that religion is just a scapegoat for human nature acting out on itself. Since neither central figure of either religion has shown its face, all we have are the people who purport to practice the religion, and we've seen the results.

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    No but DMC is saying that people can interpret it differently, especially when they don't know the full translation and have to rely on others.
    The translations are unimportant. Religion is a huge confirmation agent for those already biased toward or against certain things. They will read what they want and disregard the rest. In Christianity, the OT has been disregarded because it opposed their more user friendly world view, became unmarketable on a big stage. Islam is separated into "radical/fundamental" and the mythical "peaceful" version. Neither religion does anything to police itself. Both are useless for the growth of humanity. Islam prefers the middle ages it seems. Both religions and no religion at all, either way you get power to the wealthy and the poor doing the blue collar work of carrying out the work of Allah. When has a wealthy Muslim man martyred himself? When has a wealthy Christian done so?

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