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You'd have to be a damn fool to think Simmons can replace everything Green does. Also it doesn't make sense for the Spurs to add more size to their frontcourt when a backcourt player is more needed at this point.
Since we're having fun and nothing else, mike Conley, if I had my druthers, is someone I'd call about right around now. That Gasol injury changes it all for them. Bobo, a current asset, and a few future ones come to mind.
As an side, If Hortford (or Conley) were traded the receiving team would get bird rights correct?
You'd have to be a damn fool to think Simmons can replace everything Green does. Also it doesn't make sense for the Spurs to add more size to their frontcourt when a backcourt player is more needed at this point.
The Clippers reportedly offered Blake Griffin & Lance Stephenson to the Nuggets for Kenneth Faried, Danilo Gallinari, Will Barton, & Nikola Jokic.
Needless to say, Denver turned it down
Yeah, but damn, you can't tell some people.
A version of that trade makes too much sense not to happen. Adding Jokic AND Barton is too much though.The Clippers reportedly offered Blake Griffin & Lance Stephenson to the Nuggets for Kenneth Faried, Danilo Gallinari, Will Barton, & Nikola Jokic.
Needless to say, Denver turned it down
I found some reasonable trade ideas:
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...ght=trade+beno
Isn't it impossible in the off-season though? No cap space, plus Horford can go to Boston anyways at that point. I am guessing, but that is what Boston is hoping, to get him over the summer as well, thus the lowball offers.
For us, it would only make sense if Timmy is retiring. The kind of patchup job that would be needed would require bumping both Simmons and Anderson in roles (since the trade would be for Green-Diaw). It would make us a worse team this season, but maybe better next season banking on improvement from them, + Bertans. Again, only if Timmy is retiring. You have to give up someone to get someone.
I somehow think we stand pat, but only Spurs know if this is really Timmy' s last season and how ready they are for next season without him. You'd probably have to bump Anderson in role anyways next season, as well as Simmons and Bertans if he's here and healthy bc Manu's production could be gone as well. Considering the major changes the team might go through when the vets retire anyways, something might need to be done.
CoG take: You only do this if you trade Anderson, Diaw and Marjanovic.
CoA take: I agree, you have to promote Anderson after trading Green.
Gotta love perspective.
It's not impossible, but it's SIGNIFICANTLY harder to sign him outright in the summer than to trade for him now. But they could S&T him next summer with less difficulty (Green, Diaw and Mills would match salaries, and that'd be a of an offer for an outgoing player). Of course, as I keep repeating, you don't move core guys for Horford. So I wouldn't do it unless there were some really good players lined up to join the roster.
Noel plays the center position like 80% of the time now. Hes a center
A great defensive center. Most likely top 3.
Go look at the advanced stats last year..Noel was in top 10 in virtually all defensive category.
But its a pipe dream to hope for Noel..i cant think of a scenario where he gets traded. Hes probably their best player right now
Talking about maxing him out as an RFA in 2017. With Okafor, Embiid, Saric and maybe Simmons, it's not going to make a bunch of sense to keep him (since none of those guys can space the floor). Though, as you said, he's their best player and should probably be kept above any of those guys.
This is an important aspect when you consider Manu Ginobili, who is going to return possibly out of rhythm and even when healthy the postseason was going to be a challenge for him. He looked wildly overmatched against GSW and Cavs. Then Tony has already been banged up with portraying injuries and he wasn't playing well his last few games. I'd say since the GSW game, Tony hasn't had good games. It really has been LMA and Kawhi stepping up their production. IMO we were already in an uphill battle this season bc our backcourt is old and the younger guys are not at their talent level. I'd hate to part with Danny bc he would make us weaker this season, but if we don't make a move we might be out both this season and the next anyways when Timmy and Manu's retire and you have nothing but roleplayers to take their spots.
I just skimmed through post tbh and assumed someone wanted to trade for him.
So hes a RFA this upcoming season? Wow had no idea. Nkt sure what his market is though...someone might max him out.
At this point, Id rather they find a spacing 4 for next year. Aldridge will probably play center once Duncan retires..
Hawks Get: Green, Diaw, Butler + 1st
Spurs Get: Horford, Sefolosha
Noel would really be a dream, unfortunately we have nothing to offer
He's an RFA AFTER this upcoming season, so the summer of 2017. That's when the Spurs will have like $50 Million in cap space. I agree LMA should stay at the five once Tim leaves, and Ibaka would be a perfect compliment to him provided that his dip in production this season isn't due to him declining physically.I just skimmed through post tbh and assumed someone wanted to trade for him.
So hes a RFA this upcoming season? Wow had no idea. Nkt sure what his market is though...someone might max him out.
At this point, Id rather they find a spacing 4 for next year. Aldridge will probably play center once Duncan retires..
Better, but why Butler? Would rather trade Bonner, though the team doesn't have to trade anyone.
Just a throw in lol. I wasn't sure if he was needed to make it work.
Anyone wanting to trade Green.for Horfod is probably a dumbass though.
Green is a much more valubale player in a potential GSW series. Thats the main key here..If you lose green, you pressure kawhi too much on the defensive end. Its a dominos effect with the wings tbh.
Lose green and you end with these 5 things
1. Add more pressure on Leonard defesnively
2. Lose the only other natural 3 pointer
3. With more pressure on Leonard defensively, his offense is going to struggle
4. More Mills and Parker on Curry and Livingston
5. Ginobili legs is going to get a beating.
I'm not sure how anyone in the world who has wached GSW would want green traded. You need two elite defenders against GSW...
Westbrook runs majority of His PnR with Kanter in the few minutes he plays with both ibaka and Kanter. The minutes are also staggered now to allow Kanter some room offensively. They clearly believe Kanter is a superior offensive player and he is...
Nope. But what it does do, which is really important, is that it gets them out of the tax, saving them million of dollars. I don't think they'd dump a rotation player for nothing to get under the tax, but if they just needed to drop an end-of-bench guy, I don't see them turning it down. That's kinda like how they added TJ Ford's contract to the Jack/Jefferson deal after Ford had already called it quits.
Yeah, Ibaka is a floor-spacer, and that would work well with Kawhi playing in the post, and it would allow LMA to roll more than he is currently doing. And Ibaka is a plus defending the PnR which is essential going forward. I like potential of some of the young bigs in the team's pipeline to be defensive difference-makers. But I'm not banking on them starting next to LMA for a while.
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...Trade-Deadline
Don't really trust Isola (also the one reporting that a Whiteside/Dwight trade is being discussed), but it's worth mentioning.
Anyways, the spurs have a gazillion( 4 really)of option i the summer of 2017 for bigs. Makes Duncan playing next year a must if they choose to keep the current team.
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