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    Trump trying to blame the democrats for Ryan's bill failing
    Told you its his 1st 2020 speech

    U s need to start takin my word as law

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    Ma ngga Rand Paul son of Dear Dr Paul won tbqh

    He called this month ago

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    After all Sean er's talk, he's going to have a great weekend.

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    Who's tired of all this winning?

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    Wonder when Nieto is going to call the WH and tell them he's paying for the wall?

    All this winning is making me tired

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    Gotta say this is great news. The ACA is preserved for a while and Clinton's political career is over. I figured Clinton was going to have to win to preserve the law, which is why I voted for that cancer.

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    Wonder when Nieto is going to call the WH and tell them he's paying for the wall?

    All this winning is making me tired
    Damn Nieto is still in power? I thought his approval rating was even lower than Dear Leader's.

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    Who's tired of all this winning?
    We will get the Travel suspension once Neil Gorsuch is confirmed. Russia:Trump is fake news.

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    but you can't take him literally

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    The freedom Caucus cucked Trump good this time.

    They're going to own the party for a while now.

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    Only plan on the individual market in Texas is a Blue Cross Blue Shield HMO Plan. Everything else has been dropped. I think they did that ~2 years ago. My wife's practice lost about 3000 patients then and to explain to these angry people we didn't drop you your insurance dropped us, good luck finding a new doctor.

    The choice is bronze, silver, gold which is just a choice of how far they stick it in. Just the tip (bronze), mid shaft (silver), all the way (gold).
    Don't 1/3 of the counties in the country only have 1 provider? And it's predicted to get worse next year? We have 2 choices (PPO and HMO) - gotta choose the PPO to cover dd in Texas.

    I put the majority blame on Ryan - he should have been doing all this negotiating beforehand - not just put forth this proposal as a fait accompli and compound the problem with this anniversary date vote. Better for this to not get off the ground than to own something that won't bring down prices.
    You could always buy coverage outside the individual market directly with an insurance company. I guess few people knew this, because the tax credits didn't apply. I found out when I didn't qualify for tax credits anyways. There was the minimum mandatory coverage, but the options were always there. Just expensive.

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    The freedom Caucus cucked Trump good this time.

    They're going to own the party for a while now.
    Nope. They will split on tax cuts and some democrats will cross over too.

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    winning like charley sheen?

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    Breibart wants Ryan gone

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    Bannon wants Ryan gone
    Fify

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    The taxpayers are the ones who will suffer under the GOP proposal failure - in particular, those in the states that chose to expand Medicaid. 2016 was the last year that the Feds paid 100% for the Medicaid expansion. The under estimation of enrollment and cost per enrollee will put a strain on state budgets which unlike the Feds can't just print money or add to the national debt. These states will either have to raise taxes or divert money from education, transportation, prisons, etc. So congratulations to those able-bodied people receiving Medicaid and subsidies and sympathy to the rest of us stuck with cost in the thousands of dollars per month for insurance (that's assuming you're in a county that offers insurance).

    That Freedom Caucus can stick to their principles but IMO they will come to regret it. Instead of compromising and taking the deal, they turned down a chance to stop Medicaid expansion (which will be the eventual ruin of us) and extend those without (big) employer-sponsored insurance the same tax treatment (hurts small business). So what will happen now - Obamacare collapses to the point where people are screaming, Democrats come to the table, Trump makes a deal with them and the Freedom Caucus are worse off than if they had taken this deal - really dumb. I know this proposal took a leap of faith but you have to be a realist - take the deal, halt the insidious spread of Medicaid and piece by piece fight for those principles that will bring down costs e.g. a bill that does nothing but allow selling policies across state lines or one that does tort reform only. But that trust for steps 2 and 3 just weren't there and as I said earlier, Ryan should have had all this discussion behind closed doors a long time ago.

    The republicans need to take a page out of the Democrats who are in lock step and unity - they went for ACA as a stepping stone to single payer and it now looks like they'll get there as this able bodied Medicaid becomes more and more entrenched.

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    Well I got this one wrong. The republican party is a mess.

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    For the last 7 years, the one thing the Republican party agreed on was that they wanted to repeal ACA. Every single one of them in Congress - the teabaggers, the moderates, the corporate s - voted 50+ times to repeal it.

    Now along comes the Greatest Negotiator in the universe, who by the way, had an amazing, tremendous plan that would cover everybody and save so much money. And he couldn't even negotiate a deal with the Koch brothers' sock puppets.

    I can hardly wait till he starts negotiating trade deals.

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    "on Day One"

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    I'm glad it failed. Why replace one ty law with another ty law? Let ACA go through its death spiral.

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    The approval rating of the president matters. Dear Leader crying wolf for months has made him so hated by the public and he was a cancer on the bill. I can't imagine there being the same mobilization in the town halls if this was President Pence trying to push this awful bill.

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