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    If Blake leaves, CP3 leaves, what are the Clippers left with?
    DeAndre lol
    and Austin

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    thought the same thing. 2018 free agent class is poor. Than what you over pay for a mediocre talent. It's not worth it.
    Not only will the free agent class be weak, but the Spurs finances get worse than people think. If they stand pat and keep Mills, his crappy number will be on the books, and as he ages will be a waste. If Simmons is kept, he'll be a big number, and the cap holds for Aldridge and Green will add what, another 10-15 million on the books?

    Add in Bertans as a restricted ...

    It's a recipe to waste Kawhi's best years

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    If Blake leaves, CP3 leaves, what are the Clippers left with?
    Austin, that's enough for Doc.

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    Yeah, they'll be diminishing returns on the back half of his contract, but it'll be worth it to have a punchers chance and if everything breaks right, possibly win one more. Besides, as of right now, they're stuck with Gasol and Parker at big money for another year and likely Mills on a fresh long term contract, so I'd rather just pay Paul a few million less annually than their combined salaries.
    I'd rather pay Paul too in that scenario of your last paragraph.

    Gasol was a bust signing, basically a name.
    Tony is injured... might be a shade of himself if he doesn't retire. Manu is likely retiring etc. Mills has peaked. He is of very little value with the ball as this series have shown.

    We shall see. I would welcome the move. I wanted them to infuse more talent to this group... them getting to the WCF and a 60 win season and now being plagued by injuries convinced me they were standing pat this offseason but I think Manu retiring and Tony getting injured maybe will force Pops hand. Gasol being nearly unplayable is also problematic for them. Lee outplay him against the Grizz, JSimms outplayed him against Houston and at this stage Pop preferred to start Anderson last game bc he has seen enough. Difficult to predict but one can easily aee how standing pat can make them worse than last season except for some youngsters developing which is unpredictable.

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    Not only will the free agent class be weak, but the Spurs finances get worse than people think. If they stand pat and keep Mills, his crappy number will be on the books, and as he ages will be a waste. If Simmons is kept, he'll be a big number, and the cap holds for Aldridge and Green will add what, another 10-15 million on the books?

    Add in Bertans as a restricted ...

    It's a recipe to waste Kawhi's best years
    Great foresight. I'm sure Patfo has regonized this. We might go at Paul and Lowry afterall and to a lesser extent Hill. I think Parker's injury expedited the process. I doubt Pop wants to put the team's le chances on the shoulders of a 21 year old or Patty.

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    ^^ good point when you put it like that. Trading Paul for Gasol, Parker, and Mills...
    If Spurs can do this and retain Simmons and Dedmon opt in with the hope Paul can maximize his talent and get him paid the following offseason..

    Wishful thinking but you never know lol

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    Not only will the free agent class be weak, but the Spurs finances get worse than people think. If they stand pat and keep Mills, his crappy number will be on the books, and as he ages will be a waste. If Simmons is kept, he'll be a big number, and the cap holds for Aldridge and Green will add what, another 10-15 million on the books?

    Add in Bertans as a restricted ...

    It's a recipe to waste Kawhi's best years
    Good points. I really hadn't looked that far ahead to 2018

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    Spurs team forecast

    Paul+Murray- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mills+Murray+rehabbing Parker+Gasol

    Hill+Murray >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mills+Murray+rehabbing Parker+Gasol

    Lowry+Murray >>>>>>>>>>> Mills+Murray+rehabbing Parker+Gasol

    Jrue Holiday+Murray >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mills+Murray+rehabbing Parker+Gasol

    Giving that last option to Gasol is Spurs short sightedness, like giving an option to old washed up Michael Finley. If that's what it takes to get a deal done, walk away.

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    Spurs team forecast

    Paul+Murray- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mills+Murray+rehabbing Parker+Gasol

    Hill+Murray >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mills+Murray+rehabbing Parker+Gasol

    Lowry+Murray >>>>>>>>>>> Mills+Murray+rehabbing Parker+Gasol

    Jrue Holiday+Murray >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mills+Murray+rehabbing Parker+Gasol

    Giving that last option to Gasol is Spurs short sightedness, like giving an option to old washed up Michael Finley. If that's what it takes to get a deal done, walk away.
    Forgot about Jrue. That might be a good pickup. He's still relatively young.

    Guestimations for salary on these?

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    Forgot about Jrue. That might be a good pickup. He's still relatively young.

    Guestimations for salary on these?
    Over 20 for all of them, maybe 25 at the cheapest.

    Jrue might be the best hope.

    He turns 27 in June, the perfect age to be with Kawhi. Great size and length, no nightmares over needing to hide him somewhere like Parker and Mills.

    And family and off court issues are what seem to be most important to him. Spurs still have Monty Williams, and they were said to be close, so the whole 'Spurs Culture' might be the difference here.

    I don't even worry too much about his injury history, I chalk a lot up to the medical team in New Orleans not being up to par and shared with the Saints. Look at Gordon and Ryan Anderson, as soon as they leave, they're healthy all year.

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    Jrue Holiday and George Hill, The E.R bros, are not the key to putting us over the top. Didn't you dudes learn from maxing out Aldridge that only superstars deserve that money?

    If it ain't CP3, it ain't worth it.

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    This is totally happening

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    I wasn't on board at all, but now I am on board for getting Chris Paul.

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    Over 20 for all of them, maybe 25 at the cheapest.

    Jrue might be the best hope.

    He turns 27 in June, the perfect age to be with Kawhi. Great size and length, no nightmares over needing to hide him somewhere like Parker and Mills.

    And family and off court issues are what seem to be most important to him. Spurs still have Monty Williams, and they were said to be close, so the whole 'Spurs Culture' might be the difference here.

    I don't even worry too much about his injury history, I chalk a lot up to the medical team in New Orleans not being up to par and shared with the Saints. Look at Gordon and Ryan Anderson, as soon as they leave, they're healthy all year.
    Id rather pay Jrue 20+ Mil than pay Patty 12-15 tbh..

    I love Jrues age so much more than CP3s' too. Gives the Spurs a bigger, longer window than CP3 imo.

    Im for Jrue. Then have DeJounte, Simmons, Hanga backcourt off bench. ..

    Draft Jordan Bell.

    Me likey.

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    I'd definitely be interested in Jrue over CP3 due to age too, but doesn't he have a bad injury history. That's the main thing stopping me from wanting to go after him.

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    I am not familiar enough with CP3, but does he have any connections in or around the SPURS, that would influence him to come here? In LMA case he had family, school, and grew up in Dallas.

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    And pop will over rest Paul throughout the season, only to increase his minutes load in the playoffs, and he will blow out a knee since he has not conditioned his body for that load all season.

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    I am not familiar enough with CP3, but does he have any connections in or around the SPURS, that would influence him to come here? In LMA case he had family, school, and grew up in Dallas.
    well Timmay was the greatest player ever to play at Wake Forrest and Chris Paul might be the 2nd best, they have always been close. Hopefully close enough to make CP3 do the "David West" and chase a ring here while simultaneously sticking it to the Warriors.

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    well Timmay was the greatest player ever to play at Wake Forrest and Chris Paul might be the 2nd best, they have always been close. Hopefully close enough to make CP3 do the "David West" and chase a ring here while simultaneously sticking it to the Warriors.
    Amen to that.. Timmy retired still able to make things happen ) Make the call Timmy, I'll even pay for the phone call...

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    I am not familiar enough with CP3, but does he have any connections in or around the SPURS, that would influence him to come here? In LMA case he had family, school, and grew up in Dallas.
    Tony and CP3 are best friends, but who cares about friends for an extra 50 million.

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    He's also close friends with TP and has a ton of respect for Pop (fellow liberal)

    Will he give up the Clippers and commercial money for a chance at a ring? We'll see

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    50 mil is hard to pass up..

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    He's also close friends with TP and has a ton of respect for Pop (fellow liberal)

    Will he give up the Clippers and commercial money for a chance at a ring? We'll see

    Commercial money??? HEB backing up the Brink truck

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    If Paul wants to ring as actual contributor, Spurs are his only option. Of cource he can join monstars at age 39 or so, and get it like that.

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    CP3 wants to win. He's always been a compe or. The Warriors are probably trying to figure out how to sign him as we speak.

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