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    Trump gives DACA recipients terrible advice

    The best advice is not to listen to Trump.

    Donald J. Trump
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    For all of those (DACA) that are concerned about your status during the 6 month period,

    you have nothing to worry about -

    No action!


    8:42 AM - Sep 7, 2017


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    Trump’s tweet reportedly came at the urging of House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA).

    Sam Stein of the Daily Beast
    noted that Trump’s reference to a “6 month period” was meant to reassure DACA recipients

    that they won’t be deported during that window of time.


    https://thinkprogress.org/trump-gives-daca-recipients-terrible-advice-4d0730a6ec18/




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    white male nationalist racist Steve Bannon says far-right hates Trump’s DACA decision

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/stev...e+Raw+Story%29

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    5 Reasons Trump Is Wrong On DACA

    1. DACA beneficiaries try harder.

    For the past five years, the program has stopped the deportation of young people who were brought into this country illegally as children and who are now in school or working. There are 10,000 DACA recipients in Connecticut. Eastern Connecticut State University has 116 DACA scholars, including some from other states.

    "These students are here on an academic scholarship, so the majority have 3.5 GPA or better, and a lot of them are double majors,"

    2. Yes, DACA beneficiaries do create jobs.

    They start more businesses than the American public does as a whole, in fact.

    This is hardly surprising, given that newcomers to this land have long been entrepreneurial: Half of the Fortune 500 companies in Connecticut today were founded by immigrants or their children

    3. They do fill jobs too, and they pay taxes.

    The largest study of its kind to date found that "at least 72 percent of the top 25 Fortune 500 companies employ DACA recipients." That's why executives at these companies — including Apple, Facebook, Microsoft and Amazon — are begging the tone-deaf president to leave DACA in place.

    4. Booting them out would be inhumane.

    Why punish DACA beneficiaries? Many of them have lived in the United States since grade school. They came with parents who were looking for opportunity or to escape oppression. Some of them can't speak the language of the land their parents took them away from many years ago.

    To throw them out of the country they've called home since childhood seems heartless. (no, IS heartless. ing weasal words)

    5. What about making America great again?

    This nation has been "a beacon of freedom and opportunity" for people like Uber's chief technology officer, Thuan Pham. He was just 10 when his mother crammed him and his brother onto an old fishing boat for a terrifying journey from Vietnam that would eventually take them to the U.S.


    America should be making citizenship easier for those who risk so much to live, study and work here, and for their families. The nation should be stapling green cards to their diplomas (as Hillary Clinton once said), not putting them in handcuffs.

    http://www.courant.com/opinion/edito...______20170907



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    most leaders did (and still do). this is a utilitarian country that relies on consequential morality more than any other moral compass. some leaders just went even further than others in regards to how many of the "few" needed to be sacrificed and were more selective about who the "many" were. not sure where FDR would rank in regards to the totality of his sins versus the sum of his virtues.
    agreed, i had just heard about the weird sex on Dollop Podcast recently.

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    Modern Family Exec Producer Says ‘F*ck You’ to Christians Who Support Killing DACA

    “Dear Christian, if you support realdonaldtrump’s decision to end DACA then your Christianity is bull . But on the other hand, you,” said Danny Zuker in a now-deleted tweet

    Danny Zuker
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    I do apologize for not being more polite about ripping people from the only homes they've ever known. Please forgive me U sanctimonious ass. https://twitter.com/waldimar/status/904580673008046080 …
    12:57 AM - Sep 4, 2017


    Danny Zuker

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    Replying to @MrKppe realDonaldTrump
    Not ting on a whole religion. Just the MINORITY of that religion who thinks it's awesome to tear people from the only home they've known
    10:12 AM - Sep 4, 2017


    Danny Zuker
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    Replying to @MrKppe realDonaldTrump
    Not ting on a whole religion. Just the MINORITY of that religion who thinks it's awesome to tear people from the only home they've known
    10:12 AM - Sep 4, 2017


    Danny Zuker

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    Replying to Toddstarnes
    You're right. What's that verse from Mathew again where Jesus sends all the resident alien children to a country they've never known?
    2:57 PM - Sep 4, 2017


    Danny Zuker
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    I do wish people had half the "outrage" they have for me typing " " for Trump literally tearing families apart.
    3:37 PM - Sep 4, 2017


    Danny Zuker
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    How's this? It seems tearing families apart is at odds with the Judaeo/Christian values of SOME of those advocating ending DACA Better?
    4:12 PM - Sep 4, 2017

    https://www.mediaite.com/entertainme...-killing-daca/





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    How Small Can Donald Trump Make the Presidency?

    In rescinding daca, President Trump has yet again embraced a policy that

    ignores the real challenges facing the country,

    further divides it, and

    tarnishes its international reputation.


    For some time now, it has been clear that Donald Trump is wading ever deeper into the cesspool.

    From his reaction to the white-supremacist-inspired violence in Charlottesville, to his attempt to bar transgender people from serving in the armed forces, to his pardon of Joe Arpaio, the controversial former Maricopa County, Arizona, sheriff who rounded up and mistreated Latinos,

    Trump has recently been intent on pandering to
    his most embittered and prejudiced supporters. SPURSTALKERS!

    From a cold political standpoint, these reprehensible acts may contain some logic.

    With his approval ratings in the mid-thirties, and

    with the Russia investigation seemingly closing in on him and his family,

    Trump’s survival depends on his ability to whip up his remaining supporters.

    Fear of incurring these supporters’ wrath (and a possible primary challenge) presumably prevents many congressional Republicans from breaking with the President.

    The message was clear: Trump was returning to the nativist themes that propelled him during his campaign last year.

    Sarah Huckabee Sanders, indicated that

    Trump wouldn’t sign any immigration bill that didn’t also address other contentious issues, like

    border security and the

    rules governing legal immigration.

    For more than a decade now, Congress has failed to pass this type of comprehensive reform. On Capitol Hill, few people believe it is doable now.

    ( ... meaning, DACA will be operationally terminated in 6 months. Goons deporting Dreamers. Sieg Heil for all you ST KKK/Nazis )

    Ending daca is now the official policy of the Trump Administration.

    Yet again, Trump has embraced a policy that targets the politically powerless, ignores the real challenges facing the country, further divides it, and tarnishes its international reputation. (“What a cruel, sour place is Trump’s America,”

    A Presidency that has been shrinking before our eyes practically since its first day has been further diminished. Eventually, it may well shrink to nothing.

    But, between now and then,

    look for things to get even uglier.


    https://www.newyorker.com/news/john-...I0MDU5MjIxNQS2

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    So Trump is breaking the law by letting this go on for six months.

    OK

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    Make Racists Afraid Again




    http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/09/07/look-just-showed-former-capital-confederacy/

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    Donald Trump is right: Congress should pass DACA

    The repeated failure to pass bills has left America with immigration laws that are unenforceable
    IF YOU could design people in a laboratory to be an adornment to America they would look like the recipients of DACA. Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, an executive action issued in 2012 by Barack Obama to protect most of those who were brought to the country as children from deportation, covers about 800,000 people. They are a high-achieving lot. More than 90% of those now aged over 25 are employed; they create businesses at twice the rate of the public as a whole; many have spouses and children who are citizens. They are American in every sense bar the bureaucratic one.

    Correcting that ought to be about as hard politically as declaring a new public holiday. Instead, there is a good chance that Congress will return them to their prior limbo, or worse. Recipients of DACA were obliged to give their addresses to the federal government, which is charged with immigration enforcement, making it considerably easier to round them up now. After the Trump administration announced that it would end the programme in six months’ time, and called on Congress to pass a bill to replace it, the White House issued a set of talking points which suggested that Immigration and Customs Enforcement would find this personal information, given in exchange for shelter, very useful.
    But the choice on DACA is not between the rule of law and rule by presidential edict. It is between two different types of legal failure—executive actions that are possibly uncons utional and a set of immigration laws that are definitely impossible to enforce.
    https://www.economist.com/news/leade...ation-laws-are

    This is one case where the stopped clock is right.

    Trump was right to phase it out. It was questionable when Obama did it, and shameful that Congress hasn't taken up an update on something that everybody pretty much agrees should have been done years ago.

    This provides the right fire lit under Congress' ass to get this done, IMO.

    I don't believe for a minute that anyone is going to be deported.

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    A Repug Congress 2001 - 2006 didn't, couldn't pass immigration reform, and this Repug Congress won't, either, esp not in an election year.

    DACA is dead. Trash killed DACA to pander to the Repug KKK/Nazi base, and he won't piss them off by extending it in 6 months.

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    So Trump is breaking the law.

    OK.

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    Are you calling DACA recipients freeloaders? Explain.
    Free money for illegals, brah.

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    Free money for illegals, brah.
    What free money are they getting?

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    Kasich campaigning for Repug nomination (at least for the Hispanic vote)

    https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemoc...7282801364767/
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