Mayor Hardberger and Tom Benson want the San Antonio Saints

[TheWriter]

What? If you take a one mile radius from the Quarry and capture that swath of SA then yeah, a $94k per capita income does seem kind of high, even with you snagging a good number of 09ers.

[Marcus Bryant]

This is San Antonio we are talking about, not your mother. Relax.

[TheWriter]

Then how did you arrive at that figure? Stroke your while thinking of the St. Mary's Oyster Bake and let it point it hit the keys on a calculator?

Did I make you made? Did I inform you of something you didn't want to hear?

Poor baby. It's ok.

[Marcus Bryant]

Did I make you made? Did I inform you of something you didn't want to hear?

Poor baby. It's ok.

You posted a number and you have yet to provide any kind of substantiation for it. This isn't hard, man. What's the source?

[TheWriter]

This is San Antonio we are talking about, not your mother. Relax.

I'll relax when you take yourself out of San Antonio's affaires and not to mention speak on it as if you have any idea whatsoever what the you’re saying.

[TheWriter]

You posted a number and you have yet to provide any kind of substantiation for it. This isn't hard, man. What's the source?

My source was a Quarry article that I can no longer locate.

But seeing how I've proven myself true to you atleast when you've asked me to "prove" all my statements with "links."

I really don't need to prove my claims to you atleast.

Of course, even if I did you find something to turn into a negative.

[Marcus Bryant]

That $94K figure is probably a household income figure.

Here's a random site but it's one more link than San Antonihomer has provided....

http://www.city-data.com/zips/78209.html

According to that, the 78209 household income in 1999 was $46k, across a population of 40 grand.

[Marcus Bryant]

I'll relax when you take yourself out of San Antonio's affaires and not to mention speak on it as if you have any idea whatsoever what the you’re saying.

Ha. I've actually done economic impact studies. You? Posted pics on the internets and quoted non-substantiated data.

[Marcus Bryant]

My source was a Quarry article that I can no longer locate.

But seeing how I've proven myself true to you atleast when you've asked me to "prove" all my statements with "links."

I really don't need to prove my claims to you atleast.

Of course, even if I did you find something to turn into a negative.

So you have no source.

[ShoogarBear]

In a city of almost 2 million with a rapidly growing population and very fast growing economy, I see no problem in finding:

-20,000 people who can afford and are willing to pay $11.5K over 5 years
-100,000 people who can afford and are willing to pay $130 a year

Well, this is where we disagree. I think you have to have Austin.

But I'm sure that, instead of our opinions, there are actually validated ways of figuring out how many people you have who can afford it. Probably goes something like:

x% times number of incomes over $100K
y% times number of incomes between $50K-100K
z% times number of incomes less than $50K

The other thing that will have to be put into the equation is the number of people who buy Spurs tickets. On one hand, they represent the group most likely to buy sports tickets, on the other some will be able to afford the Spurs OR NFL but not both.

[Marcus Bryant]

I'd say the entire 78209 zip includes a fairly affluent part of SA. If the household income in that was only in the $40s in '99 then it's likely that the $94k figure was a household income figure for the 1 mile radius.

[ShoogarBear]

BTW, I also found that $94K number to be eye-raisingly high. I'd really be interested in the distribution of income for the entire San Antonio metropolitan area vs. that of Austin.

[TheWriter]

That $94K figure is probably a household income figure.

Here's a random site but it's one more link than San Antonihomer has provided....

http://www.city-data.com/zips/78209.html

According to that, the 78209 household income in 1999 was $46k, across a population of 40 grand.

That's a 10 sq mile area.

We're talking about a 1 mile radius (you know circle) from the Quarry Market. Which includes not only the 78209 zip code but others.

[TheWriter]

I'd say the entire 78209 zip includes a fairly affluent part of SA. If the household income in that was only in the $40s in '99 then it's likely that the $94k figure was a household income figure for the 1 mile radius.

I never said it was a per capita income.

[TheWriter]

So you have no source.

I posted enough. I posted the income, the 1 mile.

Hey, why don't you do some google searching?

[Marcus Bryant]

Here is what was typed:

In a one mile radius of the Quarry Market area, with a population of over 25,000, the avg. income is 94,000 dollars.

That's one example.

Now I'm not saying those people will buy tickets or that's 25,000 total that earn 94,000 (seeing how its population not family).

Edit: 94,000 not 97,000.

[Rescueone]

How many NFL markets rank below SA? Jacksonville, NO, Buffalo, and maybe Indianapolis? Kansas City? I don't think I can include Green Bay due to Milwaukee.

Dude,

I don't think Indy is a small market. with Buffalo, everyone is forgetting Rochester, Syracuse, Niagara Falls, Western PA, parts of Ohio and Canada as part of their fan base. It's a bigger market than what's reported. Kansas City is up there as well. The Only markets that are small is Green Bay and New Orleans.

[Marcus Bryant]

I posted enough. I posted the income, the 1 mile.

Hey, why don't you do some google searching?

Yeah, you posted it and you have no source for it.

[TheWriter]

Yeah, you posted it and you have no source for it.

I gave the MYSA cource for the 94,000 and 1 mile radius facts.

The 25,000 people number is true but yes I don't have a link for you. Too bad, now you can't find a way to flip it.

[Marcus Bryant]

So you don't have a source for it. What is so ing hard to understand?

[TheWriter]

Dude,

I don't think Indy is a small market. with Buffalo, everyone is forgetting Rochester, Syracuse, Niagara Falls, Western PA, parts of Ohio and Canada as part of their fan base. It's a bigger market than what's reported. Kansas City is up there as well. The Only markets that are small is Green Bay and New Orleans.

If you're including all that for Buffalo, a CMSA with San Antonio would be near 4 million as of right now. Not to mention the RGV with another 2 million.

[TheWriter]

So you don't have a source for it. What is so ing hard to understand?

No, again, sucks for you. Now you have nothing to spin.

[Marcus Bryant]

WTF? You cited a non-existent source. Try again.

[TheWriter]

WTF? You cited a non-existent source. Try again.

No, it exists.

And like I said, you're hating the fact I can't find it because you have nothing to spin negatively.

[Marcus Bryant]

The burden of proof rests on you.