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    I know you're just making a joke; but to expound all the same, conservatives don't seem to have the belief in themselves when it comes to these communications markets that liberals have developed over decades; but ultimately, they will develop their tools in time.
    It's not a matter of belief, IMO, it's implicit in 'conservatism' (allow me to generalize a bit here). The average conservative person is relatively averse to taking big risks. A lot of these 'new media'/'new tech' companies are intrinsically huge gambles. Twitter, Facebook, even Amazon, didn't make money (and actually bled money) for a long ass time until they eventually found the model to make money (and in turn, somewhat diminish their initial appeal).

    Conservatives are much more likely to wait it out and buy/join an already profitable enterprise, IMO. That doesn't mean there's no conservative innovators, etc, but the mentality is certainly different.

    Like I said, just my opinion, there's no scientific basis for this.

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    It's not a matter of belief, IMO, it's implicit in 'conservatism' (allow me to generalize a bit here). The average conservative person is relatively averse to taking big risks. A lot of these 'new media'/'new tech' companies are intrinsically huge gambles. Twitter, Facebook, even Amazon, didn't make money (and actually bled money) for a long ass time until they eventually found the model to make money (and in turn, somewhat diminish their initial appeal).

    Conservatives are much more likely to wait it out and buy/join an already profitable enterprise, IMO. That doesn't mean there's no conservative innovators, etc, but the mentality is certainly different.

    Like I said, just my opinion, there's no scientific basis for this.
    I see your point to some extent; but there are plenty of conservatives who take risks. I think it's more experience or lack of vision at this point than it is being risk averse. Frankly, there's a lot of conservative money out there for the taking.

    Also, I think you're totally overlooking the built-in economies of scale that liberals have given the media market has always been a largely public or semi-public enterprise. CNN can run their business like sh** and still make a lot of money b/c of baked-in advantages.
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    I see your point to some extent; but there are plenty of conservatives who take risks. I think it's more experience or lack of vision at this point than it is being risk averse. Frankly, there's a lot of conservative money out there for the taking.
    I think, generally speaking, conservatives are more money-driven, whereas liberals angle for other, more esoteric things (can it change the world?, that kind of stuff)... different mentalities.

    Also, I think you're totally overlooking the built-in economies of scale that liberals have given the media market has always been a largely public or semi-public enterprise. CNN can run their business like sh** and still make a lot of money b/c of baked-in advantages.
    People like to hate CNN and Fox News, but they're simply popular. That's what has kept them relevant. The companies themselves have shifted the way the cover news many times, have changed formats, expanded to the digital world, catered towards the more polarized crowd.

    Honestly, I don't know what you mean by baked-in advantages, can you elaborate?

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    Honestly, I don't know what you mean by baked-in advantages, can you elaborate?
    They receive monies from the media companies to be on their formats. They have a baseline of advertising dollars. They have parent companies that can absorb bad quarters, etc.

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    They receive monies from the media companies to be on their formats. They have a baseline of advertising dollars. They have parent companies that can absorb bad quarters, etc.
    That's pretty much every big business conglomerate these days, tbh... Newscorp, Turner, Sony, Pfizer, Bayer, etc etc etc... but, they mostly made their money off their product's popularity and in the private sector.

    If you wanna talk about baked-in advantages, there's a long list of government/military subsidized conglomerates that live off the government teat (Halliburton, Boeing, etc).

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    That's pretty much every big business conglomerate these days, tbh... Newscorp, Turner, Sony, Pfizer, Bayer, etc etc etc... but, they mostly made their money off their product's popularity and in the private sector.

    If you wanna talk about baked-in advantages, there's a long list of government/military subsidized conglomerates that live off the government teat (Halliburton, Boeing, etc).
    You're missing the point. There's an inherent advantage to their platforms. The quality of content is frankly secondary in a manner of speaking.

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    Forum conservatives now pining for an rust enforcement because free market outcomes are so unfair...

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    Forum conservatives now pining for an rust enforcement because free market outcomes are so unfair...
    I don't see anyone pining; but I said all along that the loosening of restrictions on media ownership (and bank ownership) was bad for the country. Centralized power always s people over, bruh.

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    so, what is to be done?

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    what do you think should be done, Darrin? does the government need to take control of this?

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    YouTube shut down H3 podcast for merely talking about Alex Jones
    Youtube is secretly run by Soros and he uses it to provide new child sacrifices to the Clintons.

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    I don't judge people based on their looks.

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    Dont judge the Big s and an ashkenazi IQ girl on her looks guys!!

    lmao wtf

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    if you don’t pay me my muh in money, I’ma make you suck this gun like a . And when it s, it’s gon blow yo brains all over the street!

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    Jesus, you got a problem if you have to use the Joan Collins filter at that age.
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    You're missing the point. There's an inherent advantage to their platforms. The quality of content is frankly secondary in a manner of speaking.
    I certainly am missing the point. Can you be more clear in what you mean?

    It is in the sense that they can use their time for self-publicity as they please? I mean, that's available to all sides of the equation. I don't see how that is inherently a liberal-only advantage, if that's what you mean.

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    lol derp tossing that word salad hoping someone will make sense of it for him.

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    I don't see anyone pining; but I said all along that the loosening of restrictions on media ownership (and bank ownership) was bad for the country. Centralized power always s people over, bruh.
    Actually, those were loosened by the current FCC chairman, a Republican. Talk about self-inflicted wounds.

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    What part didnt you understand the big s? or the ashkenazi IQ?

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    Actually, those were loosened by the current FCC chairman, a Republican. Talk about self-inflicted wounds.
    Fake News

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    What part didnt you understand the big s? or the ashkenazi IQ?
    i want to see both to judge for myself.

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