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    Except he was not charged with anything when he sought asylum
    Except he was going to be extradited to Sweden.

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    Except he was going to be extradited to Sweden.
    We don't know that. But thanks for trying nortradumbus

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    We don't know that. But thanks for trying nortradumbus
    Assange sure knew that.

    The British court ruled he should be extradited, so Assange asked for asylum in a closet under the stairs.

    That's how it happened.

    You can't change it.

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    We don't know that. But thanks for trying nortradumbus
    Sure we do.

    The evidence is that he sought asylum.

    Besides being an unethetical person, he's also an alledge rapist. I at people who defend this guy. Even if you discount the fact he exposed the government which isn't entirely bad, there is the fact he's a sexual assaulter.

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    Sure we do.

    The evidence is that he sought asylum.

    Besides being an unethetical person, he's also an alledge rapist. I at people who defend this guy. Even if you discount the fact he exposed the government which isn't entirely bad, there is the fact he's a sexual assaulter.
    choose one

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    you referred to specific elements of the indictment that concerned you.. can you point them out? page/line
    Pages 5-6, "Manner and Means of the Conspiracy, 18-21

    https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/pr...53481/download

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    Yeah I thought about it after the post went through. Alledge sexual assaulter then.

    BTW, Sweden is looking to re-open the case now that he's in the wind per se.

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    Signal, anonymous contact and dropboxes are all ordinary ways to protect journalistic sources, but here they are evidence of a criminal conspiracy.

    All that would be required to transpose this template onto MSNBC or the NYT would be to declare them hostile to the USA, then to go after writers and sources who've embarrassed the US government.

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    Signal, anonymous contact and dropboxes are all ordinary ways to protect journalistic sources, but here they are evidence of a criminal conspiracy.

    All that would be required to transpose this template onto MSNBC or the NYT would be to declare them hostile to the USA, then to go after writers and sources who've embarrassed the US government.
    there is nothing that suggests those acts, in and of themselves, are criminal. in a conspiracy to commit murder, a prosecutor can write that person A bought bleach, person B bought rope, etc when describing the manners and means or "acts furthering" the conspiracy. that doesnt mean anybody who buys bleach is suddenly at risk of being guilty of conspiracy to commit murder

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    there is nothing that suggests those acts, in and of themselves, are criminal. in a conspiracy to commit murder, a prosecutor can write that person A bought bleach, person B bought rope, etc when describing the manners and means or "acts furthering" the conspiracy. that doesnt mean anybody who buys bleach is suddenly at risk of being guilty of conspiracy to commit murder
    I get that legal actvities can be part of a criminal scheme and said something similar upstream.

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    Sure we do.

    The evidence is that he sought asylum.

    Besides being an unethetical person, he's also an alledge rapist. I at people who defend this guy. Even if you discount the fact he exposed the government which isn't entirely bad, there is the fact he's a sexual assaulter.
    He sought asylum because he had a very good feeling the US was going for him.

    Do you seriously think he would go into hiding for 7 years on an alleged sexuL assault bogus case that he knew he would easily win in swedeni?

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    spurraider21: If you think the Trump Administration isn't trying to intimidate journalists here and abroad, well and fine, I disagree.

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    I'm starting to think US and UK were baited INTO making a move

    The current charges are weak. They barely have a case and they are losing the public opinion

    Unless they have a bunch of charges coming up they are in for another embarrassment

    I hear they are deliberating in the 9th circuit Court right now they must be in a crunch to bring in more charges. The one charge is a joke.

    Also the fact that Chelita Manning is still locked up on contempt is a big sign they are pissed
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    I get that legal actvities can be part of a criminal scheme and said something similar upstream.
    then i dont see why you're concerned about the below...

    Pages 5-6, "Manner and Means of the Conspiracy, 18-21

    https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/pr...53481/download
    you understand that legal activities can be part of a criminal scheme but expressed concern for legal activities being described as part of a criminal scheme here

    spurraider21: If you think the Trump Administration isn't trying to intimidate journalists here and abroad, well and fine, I disagree.
    i'm not ruling out the possibility. but the charges seem to be very narrow with respect to the hacking/attempted hacking.

    its also why this was my first post in this thread after his arrest

    will be intersting to see exactly what the charges are. obvious concerns of free speech erosion. hacking is a difference story

    precedent of dodging the criminal system of multiple nations by hiding in an embassy as well...

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    "alledge rapist. .. sexual assaulter"

    the two girls were CIA plants, willfully spent the night with Assange, a sting, then claimed rape

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    Awesome politician, calling out the press for their bull propaganda. It’s supposed to b the other way around. Love how she called the Russiagate hoax years ago, when the press still cling to that bull

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    unbelievable

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    Now do his Seth Rich thread.

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    ^ you forgot to add Hitler, the devil and your mother in law, clown


    What crime did Assange commit Nancy?
    What crimes did any of them commit call det ?

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    Assange isn't American, committed no crime in America (or anywhere), was exercising Free Speech.

    Not that American Empire gives a about human rights or laws, but America has no "standing" to charge Assange with anything.

    The first Swedish prosecutor dropped charges of rape claimed by two CIA ladies who got into bed with Assange ("what were they thinking"), so CIA got another prosecutor to reinstate the charges.
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    So you dropped the Seth Rich conspiracy theory too?

    When did that happen?

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    Looks like CIA's Swedish s gonna get their bogus (both women slept with Assange) rape cases going again

    Sweden reopens rape case against Julian Assange


    Lawyer for woman involved in allegations from 2010 has asked for investigation to resume

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/may/13/sweden-reopens-case-against-julian-assange

    ... and the career-padding new prosecutor who re-opened the dropped case.



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    ma niga Julian is at a breaking point. Sick, incommunicated and now officially charged by US. By the Virginia Eastern district court nontheless. That court has 100% conviction rate and most of their jury are fakilies of Intelligence State.

    He is basically ed.

    The only hope out of it is suicide whch I woukd seriously consider. Or Jeremy Corbyn.

    Teres My is a goner but brittish deep state is fighting back a Corbyn takeover. But there is a ray of hope

    Corbyn promised to recognize Palestine, make peace with Russia and would probably save Asange

    God please guide Corbyn to victory
    Called this months ago.

    Now assange is about to get extradited to US. He should have killed himself when he had the chance. Now he will be turned into a test subject by US scientists and his brain probed like a mouses. He is ed and will probably end up brain dead.

    Corbyn has about a 5% chance of becoming next pm. He is a weak moron for his latest passive emo behavior. Won't matter as Assange will be sent to US in the next few days.

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