LMA is gone!

[exstatic]

Celtics aren't likely to use their TPE until the offseason.

According to who?

[Dex]

I look forward to two weeks of trade speculation only for the Spurs to end up buying LMA out and stretching it over 3 years to mess with our future cap situation.

[Dejounte]

If you look at it without LMA, since he’s just salary ballast, Lonnie or a protected first is probably fair for absorbing HBs remaining two years. He’s also serviceable as a combo forward.

I wouldn’t let any other add ons make or break the deal. The Spurs have had a good look at Woodward, so if he’s not in the deal, they either wouldn’t include him, or the Spurs thought his numbers were gleague inflated.

To be fair, if Spurs fans are high on Woodard then you have to imagine Kings fans and their organization are high on him too. Woodard is likely a pipedream.

Only way I see Woodard being traded is if the Kings still view him as a small loss because he was drafted in the second round. I wouldn't put it past them...

Wait, are you saying Lonnie for HB is a fair trade?

According to who?

According to himself lmao read the headline

[SAGirl]

I am surprised by the news because this was like the boy who cried wolf. Rumors of him wanting to get traded started since his first season with the Spurs and would pop up every year except the one he was resigned. I think his demotion to bench player soured him beyond repair because I thought he played well enough from the bench to finish the season with him.

It’s been some time since I was following this storyline closely. Too bad the Spurs didn’t get anything in exchange for him but he declined sharply and I am glad they didn’t do a bad deal to “dump” him. Its over. Turning the page...

Thanks for the news guys.

[Dex]

I am surprised by the news because this was like the boy who cried wolf. Rumors of him wanting to get traded started since his first season with the Spurs and would pop up every year except the one he was resigned. I think his demotion to bench player soured him beyond repair because I thought he played well enough from the bench to finish the season with him.

It’s been some time since I was following this storyline closely. Too bad the Spurs didn’t get anything in exchange for him but he declined sharply and I am glad they didn’t do a bad deal to “dump” him. Its over. Turning the page...

Thanks for the news guys.

The irony is that wherever he ends up going, he's not going to find a starting gig...especially if he ends up with a current contender.

The only way this makes sense if he is chasing that ring, and I wouldn't blame him for that. But he's still gonna be coming off the bench.

If not...he might as well just stay with the Spurs, finish his contract, and walk this summer. Showing he can play well with the 2nd unit would probably increase his value in the free agent market.

But if he thinks he is going to go to another team and walk into a major role and 30 minutes every night...have fun being a tank commander in Charlotte or whatever, I guess.

[KingKev]

Buy him out for 50 cents on the dollar or let him sit out the season and sign somewhere else. There is virtually no trade scenario he will get us anything in value in return

[SAGirl]

We gon get something in return at least

Oops I need to finish reading these updates. This is a developing situation but it’s official that he wants out (vs unauthorized sources rumors.)

[Spurs Homer]

Throw white in any trade instead of any other young spur

white is always one play away from hurting his vagina

[Dejounte]

Throw white in any trade instead of any other young spur

white is always one play away from hurting his vagina

He's got a "poison pill" contract. Because of that, he's probably the least likeliest to be included in any trade.

[SAGirl]

The irony is that wherever he ends up going, he's not going to find a starting gig...especially if he ends up with a current contender.

The only way this makes sense if he is chasing that ring, and I wouldn't blame him for that. But he's still gonna be coming off the bench.

If not...he might as well just stay with the Spurs, finish his contract, and walk this summer. Showing he can play well with the 2nd unit would probably increase his value in the free agent market.

But if he thinks he is going to go to another team and walk into a major role and 30 minutes every night...have fun being a tank commander in Charlotte or whatever, I guess.

Definitely think he wants to ring chase, 35 and declining, he’s staring at his NBA mortality. It’s interesting that the Spurs believe still that a trade will materialize. I wonder what they have in mind.

[PrimeMinister]

I would take on 2 years of terrible salary to get picks

Bang down Cleveland’s door and see if you can get draft capital out them. They have to pay Allen this offseason and Sexton the offseason after and don’t seem like tax paying types. Maybe they see themselves as players to make an offer at Collins and could use the space as well. Sexton/Garland/Cedi/Collins/Allen is the most Cleveland line up imaginable

I don’t know. I’m spitballing here. I think our quickest path to contention is to supplement our core in the draft and line up expiring deals for what is an enormous FA class in 2023. Love is a bad deal and we don’t want him but he expires before the 23 offseason. If we can get a lotto pick and hit on it in the meantime and add a Jokic, Embiid, or to look down the list more, Jerami Grant to an already nice core of youngsters in 2023 we can actually win, and a lot for a long time.

[exstatic]

To be fair, if Spurs fans are high on Woodard then you have to imagine Kings fans and their organization are high on him too. Woodard is likely a pipedream.

Only way I see Woodard being traded is if the Kings still view him as a small loss because he was drafted in the second round. I wouldn't put it past them...

Wait, are you saying Lonnie for HB is a fair trade?



According to himself lmao read the headline

Ainge? He’s a game player. If he says they’re not using it at the deadline, they will absolutely do so.

Tweets take some time to render. I didn’t see it until after I had asked.

[exstatic]

I would take on 2 years of terrible salary to get picks

Bang down Cleveland’s door and see if you can get draft capital out them. They have to pay Allen this offseason and Sexton the offseason after and don’t seem like tax paying types. Maybe they see themselves as players to make an offer at Collins and could use the space as well. Sexton/Garland/Cedi/Collins/Allen is the most Cleveland line up imaginable

I don’t know. I’m spitballing here. I think our quickest path to contention is to supplement our core in the draft and line up expiring deals for what is an enormous FA class in 2023. Love is a bad deal and we don’t want him but he expires before the 23 offseason. If we can get a lotto pick and hit on it in the meantime and add a Jokic, Embiid, or to look down the list more, Jerami Grant to an already nice core of youngsters in 2023 we can actually win, and a lot for a long time.

Barnes also expires n 2023, and isn’t a complete waste of a roster spot like Love.

[exstatic]

Throw white in any trade instead of any other young spur

white is always one play away from hurting his vagina

Lonnie is the one way player of the bunch.

Bonus: he and Fox are boys. They did a video that summer after the draft.

[ginobilized]

There is the fact that LMA does well against Anthony Davis might make teams targeting the Lakers or the Lakers themselves want him. Been hearing the Mavs are shopping KP, I wonder what we would need to add to LMA to make that happen. The Spurs and KP have long been linked and he is a Euro that I wouldn't mind.

All true. Doesn't LMA's ex and child live in Dallas, too? This could make sense. Spurs like to keep the family together.

I don't see Pop sending him to Sacramento. The Kings could be part of a multi-team deal though.

[PrimeMinister]

Barnes also expires n 2023, and isn’t a complete waste of a roster spot like Love.

my read is Sacramento sees Barnes as a positive asset, which he is, and wouldn’t be sending out additional assets to move him. The goal is not just to get an expiring in the right time frame, but get pieces along with it. You gotta take the negative asset to get the positive. In this case, I’d see the 2 years of bad money as being worth the trade off of a potential lottery pick.

LA has so close to 0 value for us to recoup anything potentially beneficial, we might have to swallow something negative. It’s give and take.

[exstatic]

All true. Doesn't LMA's ex and child live in Dallas, too? This could make sense. Spurs like to keep the family together.

I don't see Pop sending him to Sacramento. The Kings could be part of a multi-team deal though.

He’s not stuck there. Could be an understanding that they buy him out, and THEN he can go where he wants.

[exstatic]

my read is Sacramento sees Barnes as a positive asset, which he is, and wouldn’t be sending out additional assets to move him. The goal is not just to get an expiring in the right time frame, but get pieces along with it. You gotta take the negative asset to get the positive. In this case, I’d see the 2 years of bad money as being worth the trade off of a potential lottery pick.

LA has so close to 0 value for us to recoup anything potentially beneficial, we might have to swallow something negative. It’s give and take.

They are trying to shed his salary, though. They have mouths to feed in the next few years, and don’t keep nearly as clean a cap sheet as we do.

Lonnie isn’t a piece? A first rounder isn’t a piece? Although it works, I’m not proposing just LMA.

[Mr. Body]

This tweet still makes me scratch my head. There's no benefit to saying "there's a level of confidence" unless there actually IS something in the works.

Being "engaged on several fronts" means some teams ARE entertaining the idea of trading for LMA.

These are carefully chosen words and Woj wouldn't just pull out of his ass.

No, "level of confidence" is not a high level. It's carefully worded and level means in this sense "at least a little."

[PrimeMinister]

They are trying to shed his salary, though. They have mouths to feed in the next few years, and don’t keep nearly as clean a cap sheet as we do.

Lonnie isn’t a piece? A first rounder isn’t a piece? Although it works, I’m not proposing just LMA.

Nah, Ex, I’m saying I want the spurs to take on bad money in the pursuit of getting draft capital in return.

Barnes we would clearly have to add pick+young player to LA to make happen. With 2 years left on HB’s deal and the timeframe of our team it doesn’t interest me to sell players and picks, especially.

love is enticing because he is seen as such a negative asset, and Cleveland is a rare team that actually would have great use for 24 million expiring dollars this offseason. That opens the door for us to get something like Cleveland’s first rounder this year without sacrificing the long term development of the team, and in fact are adding to it with the possibility of just buying love out down the line anyway. Worst case scenario he stays on the books until 2023, barely plays if at all, and expires in time for us to make a FA push in the next big class of desirable free agents.

[Dejounte]

No, "level of confidence" is not a high level. It's carefully worded and level means in this sense "at least a little."

No benefit for either interpretations. My guess is, they have a feel for who's interested and that they can make it work if they sacrifice a bit more or if the other team coughs up a bit more.

This Woj tweet could have easily been different.

I don't think Aldridge's rift with the team started recently. I think it's been brewing for awhile, giving the Spurs some time and planning to get a sense of what they can get. Because if we do assume this has been brewing for awhile, and there was nothing out there, then the Spurs could have gone straight to a buyout instead of beating around the bush.

I don't think LMA's unhappiness is new is my main point. And if we use that information, we can safely point to a likely hypothesis of what's going on behind the scenes.

[exstatic]

No, "level of confidence" is not a high level. It's carefully worded and level means in this sense "at least a little."

Level is a neutral word. Confidence is not. IMO, that means they have at least one deal they find palatable on the table, and are waiting on further offers.

[DAF86]

Only fools celebrate losing a player capable of dropping 30 pts on any given night. Spurfan sucks ass and doesn't know when to appreciate what we have. 113 pts away from 20,000 pts and we got ppl on here celebrating and laughing. you all.

[The Truth #6]

The irony is that wherever he ends up going, he's not going to find a starting gig...especially if he ends up with a current contender.

The only way this makes sense if he is chasing that ring, and I wouldn't blame him for that. But he's still gonna be coming off the bench.

If not...he might as well just stay with the Spurs, finish his contract, and walk this summer. Showing he can play well with the 2nd unit would probably increase his value in the free agent market.

But if he thinks he is going to go to another team and walk into a major role and 30 minutes every night...have fun being a tank commander in Charlotte or whatever, I guess.

So true. I was thinking the same thing. He isn't starting anywhere. I don't even know if Portland will take him back. They already have Carmelo jacking up mid range shots. This could fall apart for him. I'm not sure what options he has. His best options are to ride out this season and sign a new contract that teams are more amenable to. It will be interesting to see what happens, or doesn't happen.

[Degoat]

I think the heat makes some sense imo, Kelly olynk and KZ okpala for LMA if the salary works or am I delusional?