Reply With Quote
Manu and TP >>>>> Lilliard, Pierce, Gary Payton, and some old people I don’t care to research
I know that Rodman is on record saying he didn’t believe they could win with DRob. However, I believe this is more of a negative for Rodman than DRob. The Spurs won 60 games that year, DRob was the MVP and at worst the 2nd best player in the world that year. If all it takes is a couple of losses for Rodman to lose his faith in his team and his chances of victory, that just shows how mentally weak HE was. Rodman is the one who doesn’t have the killer instinct and apparently doesn’t care about winning either.
Basically Rodman is on record saying as long as he plays with the best player in the world and faces ZERO adversity then he is a winner.
Manu and TP >>>>> Lilliard, Pierce, Gary Payton, and some old people I don’t care to research
Manu is a guy you want in the foxhole. Rodman is the player that runs away at the first hint of trouble. He did it in Detroit, he did it in SA, and he did it in CHI. He faced a tiny bit of adversity his last year in CHI and literally ran away to Vegas. The dude isn’t a winner. He’s a front runner. As long as he plays with the best team and the best players and has no adversity then Rodman is your guy. But in reality, a guy like Manu is the real winner
Rodman is like Stephen Jackson. You want him to be in your team and do the dirty work if you can control him. I love DRob and the reason how I got to be a Spurs fan (Manu is my all-time favorite though). But I don’t think DRob had it in him to control Rodman, like Timmy had in Jackson. Timmy would pull TP’s jersey, wouldn’t talk with Manu on his rookie year lest he proved himself. DRob? he embraced everybody being nice, but I doubt he would try to straighten Rodman, just chuckled on his antics instead.
I disagree. This game had excitement with what Curry was doing and watching DJ. And they played pretty hard in the 4th.
Rodman was all about Rodman. He made a big deal out of not shooting because he wanted to do the dirty work of rebounding. Well, the fact is he COULDN't shoot very well, and was often dirty while doing the dirty work. I got off his train when I saw him deliberately slide under another player who had elevated for a jumper and was helpless in the air. Took a bad tumble, and could have been seriously injured. Players worthy of being in the 75 don't deliberately make a move that could end another player's career.
I beg to differ. Rodman with the Bad Boys could score. But yes. He deliberately didn’t want to shoot to prove a point, in his weird way. As far as being in the 75, you can’t talk about the history of the NBA without mentioning Rodman. The guy was a rebounding machine at his height, and was able to guard bigger players like Shaq, Malone and got on their head. People might not like his antics and dirty plays. But for sure he belongs with the 75 even probably higher. Now Lilliard, Pierce, Gary Payton? I would put Manu and TP over those guys.
damn that dude on the left looks big. maybe the spurs could sign him up?
Ice dropping 34 in the 1980 ASG and winning ASG MVP.
Lamelo took like 6 steps without dribbling
Agreed, not sure what those senior citizens are smoking tbh, and there were also a lot of terrible all star games back in the days
Rpdman couldn't really stop Shaq or Malone, he did get in Malone's head but all he did on Shaq was doing hack a Shaq - which was of course a smart strategy - but there is a difference between guarding somebody and stopping him
Prime Shaq was unguardable 1 on 1, if he could hit at least 70% of his FT it would have been game over for the rest of the league
Y'all shouldn't engage with an obvious troll TBH. It just feeds them.
Rodman was destroyed by Horry in 1995. Amazing defender my ass. I was young but even then I'd get so annoyed watching that show the ball to the arena instead of making an outlet pass. He's lucky he rode Jordan, Pippen, and Kukoc's coatails for the threepeat. He was good in Detroit, but then he was extremely overrated in his post Detroit career. Does not belong that list but there's always 1-2 players who don't.
Agree. Prime Shaq was unguardable. But 13 pts, 28 rebs, 7 offensive was not too shabby
As much as we mostly admire and respect Robinson, Duncan, Ginobili and to a lesser extent Parker, for their comportment, among other things, it's a breath of fresh air to see a prominent Spur who doesn't fit the cliche and isn't the an hesis of today's NBA.
To eventually make inroads in it, it's far more likely that they're going to need a lot more Murray personality wise and a lot less of their superstars and stars of yesteryear.
Last edited by TD 21; 02-21-2022 at 05:59 PM.
Best ASG performance by a Spur since 2000 Duncan?
I think the difference between Robinson and Duncan was Robinson had no ability to turn a blind eye to anything he didn’t agree with.
Duncan probably wasn’t too worried if Stack was out at strip clubs, drinking, smoking weed etc so long as he showed up to play which Stephen Jackson always did, especially in 02-03. My feeling with Robinson was that when he was completely at the helm he ran a much tighter ship.
Also let’s not compare Rodman to Stack to begin with as Rodman was next level from the days of his departure from Detroit onwards.
haha you mad bro?Lamelo took like 6 steps without dribbling
Hopefully sometime soon Primo can look for DJ top shelf like this.
Tbh I loved Hollywood Tony Parker. He was at the movie premiers, award shows, peoples magazine. Dude was a baller. It was exactly what being an NBA player should be. Being with the hottest girls, going to the coolest parties, winning championships, and just being cool. Those two years of Tony Parker are overshadowed by his infamous Erin Berry smash. But still adds to the legend
I think HemisfairArena is crazy. No way you take Rodman to lead a team over Manu; he could lead a sailor to a house.
That said, DAF86, Bill Russell ...
I also recall Shawn Kemp being arguably the best player on the court in the '96 finals. Darn, it really is too bad Shawn Kemp fell off with his personal problems the rest of his career. I really did like that Sonics team. At one point years later, I even wanted to trade Tony Parker for Gary Payton back when the Sonics wanted to make that move around 2002/2003. I'm glad that didn't happen as it would have been huge mistake. Glad I wasn't in charge of the team otherwise I probably make a terrible, terrible decision.
As for the older All-star games, maybe my memory of them is wrong, but I seem to remember them being more compe ive. Less blatant travels and at least some semblance of defense being played. Maybe I am not remembering right and need to go back and watch some of them. It just seems today's ASGs people are just standing around and even moving out of the way, traveling blatantly, and not really showing any compe iveness at all. If it were up to me, I'd want the game to be played with defensive focus to see what the stars can do against pressure of playing against other stars. See what magic they can come up with. Having said that, I know you don't want get any of your star players getting hurt, so I'd just settle for somewhat compe ive game with defensive intensity lifting for the 4th quarter.
Last edited by Ice009; 02-22-2022 at 04:57 AM.
Bill Russell wasn't offensively challenged though. Not like Rodman. Also, way different eras.
What did enjoy watching was DJ and Lamelo swarming double teams on defense. It was fun to see them playing D at all in the allstar game.
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions
