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    To you ...

    Beginning to crumble = A 25 point blowout of an in-conference and in-division rival playing for playoff position

    You sure?

    Not just a blowout, but blowout on National TV! Sending a statement to the league ........... Seems like we've done that in every game this season on National TV, except for that game against the Cavs

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    Pistons are Scary...

    Let's just keep our fingers crossed and hope that Flip shines best in Regular Season.

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    15 losses... you know, in the NFL that's terrible.

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    bump


    So...who here blames Flip for the Pistons' collapse against the Heat? I know I do. But I'm having a hard time figuring out why. Was it because he didn't have the experience to calm the team when was hitting the fan in the fourth? Was it because the Pistons took (and missed) so many 3s that Larry Brown would have never let them take? Was it because Flip didn't preach defense like a broken record, so the Pistons didn't have solid D as their main focus and objective? Was it because he let his team get too y? Was it because he got outperformed by a vastly superior coach? All of these? None?

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    all of the above . . .

    and more


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    you guys better get rid of that bag from minnesota, the losing aura is kickin in.

  7. #232
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    I guess Larry Brown was missed

    Yeah i'm glad the pistons get to join in our misery.

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    i wouldnt be surprised to see some of that starting five broken up. and flip needs to go for sure.

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    I'll agree that Flip needs to go, but I disagree about the starting five. Apparently it took the coach too, but part of their success to me has been their chemistry together. Just need a better coach!

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    Now aren't you Piston fans going to love the offseasaon when everyone can act so y as you guys were?


    At least we'll be right.............

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    Veteran himat's Avatar
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    Now aren't you Piston fans going to love the offseasaon when everyone can act so y as you guys were?


    At least we'll be right.............
    Hey dumbass the Pistons didn't feel y last summer because we got our hearts broken by the Spurs in Game 7 you moron. Plus it's prety hard to have a 60 win season, and win a championship with a coach in his first year with a team. Hopefully Ben resigns, Pistons get some good players this summer, the bench plays, and Spurs vs Pistons will happen in the Finals.

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    I'll agree that Flip needs to go, but I disagree about the starting five. Apparently it took the coach too, but part of their success to me has been their chemistry together. Just need a better coach!
    After the firings of a coach who turned the franchise from 32-50 losers to a 50-32 defensive powerhouse making it to the conference finals, and a coach who took them from that level to two finals appearances and one le, we're going to sack the coach who, in his first year, got us back to the conference finals and set the franchise record for victories along the way? Yeah, the top coaches in the league would really be beating Dumars' door down trying to get an interview.

    IMHO, Flip has to get another year. Most of the core pieces of this team didn't catch fire in their first year here, 'Sheed excepted. Ben, Rip, Chauncey, Tay...none of them were setting the league on fire out of the gate. Might be worth looking for a good defensive coordinator, but Flip has to get at least one more year to show he can expand his repertoire, integrate his bench, and figure out how to defend in the new NBA.

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    In other words, a wasted season. We already know that Flip can't or won't do any of those things.

    Still, your point is well taken - it's just unfortunate that Flip very likely will cost the Pistons a chance of ever being champions again.

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    In other words, a wasted season. We already know that Flip can't or won't do any of those things.

    Still, your point is well taken - it's just unfortunate that Flip very likely will cost the Pistons a chance of ever being champions again.



    I also pointed that out that barring a shakeup, this roster will have its last legitamate le shot this year. If Dumars is as smart as he's made out to be, he won't wait before he realizes what Sac and Minny took about a decade to realize in there coaches.

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    Hey dumbass the Pistons didn't feel y last summer because we got our hearts broken by the Spurs in Game 7 you moron. Plus it's prety hard to have a 60 win season, and win a championship with a coach in his first year with a team. Hopefully Ben resigns, Pistons get some good players this summer, the bench plays, and Spurs vs Pistons will happen in the Finals.


    No, it was a big male chicken fest in here when it was Piston fan crowing about there chances at 72 wins. Maybe you don't remember because you were dishing up crow for everyone to eat.


    At least you're not letting it go to waste, enjoy your dinner.

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    A tired vet team, with weak coaching not developing the bench is for me the reason why DET is out of finals, I think the 5 boys' unit from DET was amazing during the regular season but got tired playing at Playoffs level.

    Not having developed guys like Arroyo, Darko (traded) even Delfino ... also considering the very few minutes that starters rested during playoff was a big issue; finally a team that consider coach as an accesory that is necessary rigth there, with players not respecting Flip is sth I didn't liked.

    Anyway DET is out.

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    Senior Member conqueso's Avatar
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    LB says that he won't accept a buy-out, so the Knicks will have to fire him if they want him out. According to all the "dead man walking" talk, it sounds like that's going to happen. Is there any chance in that Dumars would swallow his pride and try to get LB to come back to the Pistons? I, for one would love to see that, although none of the Pistons fans around here would agree with me. I don't blame him (or the refs) for Detroit's game 7 Finals loss, and I think he did a better job managing the intangibles than Flip does. For example, LB would have seen the virtue of home court advantage, but he wouldn't have played his starters so many minutes to get it. Like Pop, he would see that it helps a lot to have HCA, but it helps much more to be a good road team, so LB would have focused on that aspect more.

    I know it's a longshot, but I think it would be great. Maybe the Pistons players who felt they needed a new voice in the locker room have realized that they took LB for granted and should welcome him back. But there are still plenty of bridges that need to be mended or whatever, so maybe it couldn't ever work out.

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    Marilyn Rae Lover jochhejaam's Avatar
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    Flip and the Pistons were rolling right along (70-20) until Rasheed ran his mouth and screwed up his ankle. I see no reason for any heads to roll here.

    The players need to get back on the same page.

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    Dragon style JamStone's Avatar
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    LB says that he won't accept a buy-out, so the Knicks will have to fire him if they want him out. According to all the "dead man walking" talk, it sounds like that's going to happen. Is there any chance in that Dumars would swallow his pride and try to get LB to come back to the Pistons? I, for one would love to see that, although none of the Pistons fans around here would agree with me. I don't blame him (or the refs) for Detroit's game 7 Finals loss, and I think he did a better job managing the intangibles than Flip does. For example, LB would have seen the virtue of home court advantage, but he wouldn't have played his starters so many minutes to get it. Like Pop, he would see that it helps a lot to have HCA, but it helps much more to be a good road team, so LB would have focused on that aspect more.

    I know it's a longshot, but I think it would be great. Maybe the Pistons players who felt they needed a new voice in the locker room have realized that they took LB for granted and should welcome him back. But there are still plenty of bridges that need to be mended or whatever, so maybe it couldn't ever work out.

    According to local reports last summer, Joe Dumars wanted Larry Brown to return this past season, so he wouldn't really be swallowing his pride. It was the owner of the Pistons, Bill Davidson, who wanted Larry Brown out. And, it would be Bill Davidson who would have to swallow his pride. And, that is unlikely. He has been a great owner, but one thing he does is hold a grudge. This was the same owner who missed Isiah Thomas' recognition ceremony this year but didn't miss any of the other Pistons legends ceremonies who were also honored. He still hasn't let his grudge with Isiah go. And, he would not allow Larry Brown to return.

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    sickdsm,

    You thought the Timberwolves were going to be a playoff team.

    At least the Pistons made it to the Conference Finals, you head.

    Why are you puffing out your chest?

    You're a ing fool.

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    Hahahaha, the general consensus was that Detroit was going to win or let alone contend for a le, judging from their round two performance, they did neither. I said all along they would meltdown. That is like predicting the first ice age, or at least that SA's letdown would be Popovich deciding to play smallball in the playoffs preseason. Two things that would have been greeted with a hearty laugh.


    The wolves were supposed to be a really ty team. I predicted they would be the worst of the playoff teams. If they hadn't traded wally and purposely tanked games at the end of the year, do you think it would have been a far off prediction?


    My point all along is that ECF is a HUGE dissapointment for the Pistons, even before last offseason began. You don't see me puffing out my chest about being right about the Clippers being a major power when Kori did not even rank them in the top 12 in the WC, because that's not really a Nostradomous moment. This is.

    If it wasn't a disspointment why would you be so jaded?

  22. #247
    Dragon style JamStone's Avatar
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    Not jaded.

    Definitely ticked off the Pistons lost and absolutely disappointed. Not jaded.

    My problem is with you making untrue statements like most of us Pistons fans were on Flip's jock this whole entire season. The truth is, most Pistons fans were happy how the regular season was going and how Flip was coaching then, but WE WERE wary of what might happen in the post season. We were willing to wait and find out, but we were wary. Positive and confident in the players, but unsure and cautiously confident with the coaching.

    You make it sound like every ing Pistons fan were wearing Flip Saunders underoos.

    Sure, Pistons fans were very hopeful and some confident and y that they would win the le this year, especially after the great start. But, it was not due to the coaching. And, I dare you to go dig up all of the posts from Pistons fans that say Flip is great without any concern. You won't find many if any at all.

    Sure, you were right about Flip melting down in the playoffs. And?

    What do you want? For the most part, Pistons fans were just hopeful that things would be different with the different set of players.

    NBA le was the goal. A conference finals disappointment the outcome.

    You tooting your horn about being right about Flip is fine. I understand how a fan who has never really experienced winning can be so ... ummm ... "jaded."

  23. #248
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    ...........Once again, play the "my sports team is better than yours" card. Like that hurts. The wolves are weeding out there weak links. LOL, maybe you'll blame it on Dumars and take McHale's contract off our hands too, then they'd have cut the fat. But congratulations on making fun of a franchise that's been around since '89. Nevermind no team that's expanded after that has won it but Miami WILL have a chance thanks to............Minnesota's reject coach.


    Piston fans may very well all been wary of Flip. But they sure the didn't show it. Don't confuse the two.

  24. #249
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    Pistons suck simple as a pie

    2004-rolled through an injured EC and defeated a phisicaly and mentally ill laker team

    2005-easy schedule cuz of the brawl,free ride to the finals due to the wade injury.still they lost to the healthy spurs...

    2006-EXPOSED by the cavs KILLED by the heat

    ITS A FACT THEY SIMPLY CANT WIN WITHOUT THE OPPONENT BEING INJURED

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    Red..Are you're sooo funny.

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