"Bumpkin" put up 20 and 14 in that contest, as well as the fact that his presence on the court helped Ginobili to put up that total.
What I'm asking for is not that difficult. If someone claimed that Manu could get the team to the Finals on his own, please quote the post instead of trying to wiesel out.
If Peter can't find it, maybe Marcus Bryant can. I saw him posting on other threads.
Yep, Duncan helped. No question. But what you state goes beyond just help. That's why your argument is bull .
that's pretty iffy... i think he would more likely get lost in the work. i definitely agree with him being among the top 5 writers of the 20th century. i was kidna pissed when i started reading him in college because i had never heard his name before. with that much talent to get so little recognition outside of argentina and small academic cirlces is depressing.
Peter, you have advanced nothing, and keep repeating yourself. no one but you can find anyone saying that ginobili could carry the spurs to the le but you. there was no implication, just you seeing things that aren't there.
Bumkin's mere presense did very little except help the spurs go 1-8 against the lakers. It took the european MVP to set the record str8 to help Bumkin erase the *.
It took the best player in the game as a teammate to get the Euro MVP to that level. Duncan's won a le without Ginobili as a teammate.
Bowen had as much of an impact on the Spurs' fortunes versus LA as did Ginobili.
I never realized that Duncan was that bad of a player. Leave it to Spurs fans to underrate his value and overrate Manu's.
So?
Did you find the quote?
Or is it simply another one of your lies/interpretations
You mean the * le of '99. I think David Robinson, Mario Ellie, Sean Elliott were very good and contending if not winning before Duncan's arrival.
You want to overhype Bumkin by downplaying the abilities of Tony and Manu. If Tim is so great then what happened when the Lakers spanked that ....?
You claimed that Ginobili's been in "similar spots" without Duncan. Without Duncan, Ginobili's not even in the NBA playoffs on his own. How is this not clear?
Tim can't get the team to the finals by himself either. Marcus is like a Larry Bird fan downing playing the importance of Kevin Mchale. Kevin was average at best without Bird, give me a break.
Right, they were also-rans.
Manu's not in the postseason without Duncan. They are not equals.You want to overhype Bumkin by downplaying the abilities of Tony and Manu. If Tim is so great then what happened when the Lakers spanked that ....?
How do you know?
I guess you agree with me.
Manu is more clutch by far.Manu's not in the postseason without Duncan. They are not equals.
How did the Spurs fare without TD down low drawing the attention of opposing defenses last season?
Not really. It's not DRob wasn't a legit post threat in his own right.
Manu has a chance to be clutch because Duncan's his teammate.Manu is more clutch by far.
Similar spots, in the context of my statement, could mean a million things.
What it really meant, and I know 'cause I wrote it, is that Manu has played at very high levels not only for the SPurs but also in other leagues (Italy, Argentina and in the Olympics).
How you infer from that that "Manu can take any team to the NBA finals" is beyond my comprehension.
Funny, and you never twist stuff around
How the do you know this? Manu has only played for the Spurs with Duncan.
Tony went off from what I remember. Nevertheless, lets stick to playoffs because regular season sucks.
If it's not for Tony and Manu Tim has a big fat Astericks stamped on his forehead. You being Duncan's number 1 man should appreciate that.
Manu helps get the * off of Tim's back and this is the thanks he gets.Similar spots, in the context of my statement, could mean a million things.
What it really meant, and I know 'cause I wrote it, is that Manu has played at very high levels not only for the SPurs but also in other leagues (Italy, Argentina and in the Olympics).
How you infer from that that "Manu can take any team to the NBA finals" is beyond my comprehension.
Funny, and you never twist stuff around
How the do you know this? Manu has only played for the Spurs with Duncan.
Bull ing !
Manu is clutch with or without Duncan. You claim to know so much about baskeball but you can't recognize that.
Manu made one of the most clutch shots I have ever seen in the first game of the 04 Olympics agains S&M.
Manu made an incredible 3-pt shot just two days ago against the Pacers. Duncan had nothing to do with both these plays.
Manu often comes up big in 4th Q.
Christ, as a fan you don't ing deserve to have Manu in your team.
Duncan has that power to make other people clutch, just ask Terry Porter and Danny Ferry.
Duncan needs to worry about himself not melting down.
Or his back-to-back impossible shots over Yao... or the OT thriller in Phoenix... or Manu taking the team on his back in the Denver series last year.... and Game 5 of the Seattle series... and his perfect pass to Duncan in Game 6 of that same series...
Manu does so much with or without Duncan on the floor.... Having Duncan there, of course, makes it easier... But Manu-haters would have to be blind to see that Manu has the ability to make plays that few others can even see.
Duncan has super human powers and makes people play that way.
Signed,
Brent Barry
Yes the Manufish is good.
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