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Yeah it's not an elbow if you wait until after he hits him with his elbow and then freeze the frame...BTW, since I deleted all your video links.
Here's a freeze frame of the contact -- not really an elbow.
at Artest, this is the 2nd franchise he sinks in a season. That's gotta be a Guiness Record. The message is clear, the NBA is not gonna take his no more.
Why should the NBA keep taking from Artest without disciplining him???
Who the is he? yeah he's good and plays hard but he ain't worth THAT much for the NBA to stand his . I'm dissapointed he's suspended 'cause we could have waxed the king's ass w/him on the court to witness. But it. and book this, the Kings are gonna put up a of a game w/out Artest. They're better off w/out him.
Yeah it's not an elbow if you wait until after he hits him with his elbow and then freeze the frame...BTW, since I deleted all your video links.
Here's a freeze frame of the contact -- not really an elbow.
I think he got suspened because it looked like it was intentional
that is what cost him the game
manu did not do his intentional therefore no suspened
end of story
Any intentional elbow or forarm to the neck or head area is an automatic 1 gamer.
Ask Kobe.
Ron is lucky he didn't get more because of his past history of playoff flagrants.
I don't care how hard it was.
His INTENT was to elbow/forearm both Ginobili AND Duncan in the head.
That ALONE is worth the suspension.
The fewer games we have our players on the same court as that nutcase the better.
Sink?? I didn't know the Kings were above water before he showed up
Why should the NBA keep taking from Artest without disciplining him???
Who the is he? yeah he's good and plays hard but he ain't worth THAT much for the NBA to stand his . I'm dissapointed he's suspended 'cause we could have waxed the king's ass w/him on the court to witness. But it. and book this, the Kings are gonna put up a of a game w/out Artest. They're better off w/out him.
I'm disappointed that he is suspended too. It gives the Kings something else to be upset about.
But I'll still stick to Spurs in Five.
The NBA is sending a message not only to Ron Artest, but to any player that resorts to throwing elbows out of frustration or retalliation. The officials were in position to call Manu on that elbow to Ron's face and obviously they have had time to review it. If it warranted further action the NBA would've taken further action. Artest has a bad history and a short fuse, I am glad he will not be playing tomorrow, I believe if he did someone would've gotten hurt.
And I still don't see what the that has to do with why Artest shouldn't be suspended for a premeditated forearm to the head.He didn't have to see it coming. He exaggerates contact the instant he's hit. He's done it his whole life.
LoL... well the big boat had sunk... now this clown comes along and is playing darts in their life raft.
If you don't see it coming there will be a delayed reaction. You're basically saying he moved his head when Artest hit him, which isn't a flop. If he would have gone sprawling across the floor then that part would be the flop, but the head movement was a result of the contact. I've been hit the exact same way and even if the hit isn't hard anyone with any reflexes would still moved their head away from the forearm on impact. That's also not a flop.He didn't have to see it coming. He exaggerates contact the instant he's hit. He's done it his whole life.
Extreme Homer Alert.
What's funny is, everyone expected Udonis Haslem to get suspended. But personally I'd much rather, have a mouth piece thrown at me than a forearm.
I didn't even think Artest should be fined. The NBA went too far on this one.
Manu is a notorious flopper and just pulled the greatest flop in NBA history. It has to be the first time a flop ended with the suspension of another player.
If Manu actually was punched by Artest's forearm, he would have gotten in Artest's face. Manu isn't one to back down in such cir stances. Manu felt the contact and flopped to draw the foul. Should have been the end of the story.
Manu also flopped earlier in the game pretty hardcore ... but it turned out it was Nazr Mohammed and not a Kings player who ran into him.
Sorry Kings fans, you got screwed.
Manu, my hat goes off to you. He probably planned the whole thing from the beginning. Manu is a machiavellic genius
Intentional contact like that calls for ejection. That's black-letter.
Since the refs missed it, he's basically being ejected retroactively. He has to miss game time. Since the NBA doesn't have a wayback machine, he's missing game two.
NEW YORK (AP) -- Ron Artest of the Sacramento Kings was suspended one game without pay for hitting Manu Ginobili of the San Antonio Spurs in the head with his forearm.
The suspension was announced Monday by the league. Artest will miss Game 2 of the Western Conference series on Tuesday.
The contact occurred in the third period of the Spurs' 122-88 win Saturday night against the visiting Kings.
Artest was hit in the mouth by Ginobili's elbow on the game's opening possession. The cut inside his upper lip required three s ches
Kori what about the clippers vbookie?
Last edited by polandprzem; 04-24-2006 at 03:31 PM.
Is it? I think the NBA rules read that an elbow above the shoulders is an automatic ejection.Any intentional elbow or forarm to the neck or head area is an automatic 1 gamer.
I don't think it says forearm and I don't think it says automatic 1 game suspension. But I haven't checked.
Yeah I know you are a Homer, no need to tell us all.
You obviously didn't see what happened if you are going to come in here and say that he hit Manu with his wrist, and freeze frame your wife posted is AFTER AFTER AFTER Artest hit him with his forearm in the head...
You talkin' to ME?
oh come on, that looks so intentional. and it also looks like a flop.
Artest got caught w/his hand in the cookie jar. I don't agree w/the suspension but I do agree that the NBA has had enough of Artest's psychotic behaviour.
The wrist comment was a joke - thus the context. It is definitely a forearm.
He probably did. Everyone in the building knew Artest was going to come out aggressive in the third quarter. The Spurs were up by 60 and the Kings were being soft. Manu knew Artest was going to get a little dirty to try to send a message to the Spurs.He probably planned the whole thing from the beginning.
Manu was hit and made it look much worse than it was.
If you don't think that's the case, you must not follow the Spurs much.
At least post the freeze frame before that, when Artest actually made contact with Manus head with the meat of his forearm.
I don't have any freezeframes. That's just the one that is up on WOAI.com
The question is though, does it matter?
I'm sure the L watched the video and realized that Manu exaggerated the contact, but it's the contact itself that matters...
Oh, just stop. Manu is a saint. All Spurs are perfect and saintly and without blemish. Any hard contact by a Spur is inadvertant; in fact, any time it happens, it's because an opponent intentionally and aggressively got his face or other body part in the way. For example, in the first quarter, Artest hit Manu's elbow with his lip. That savage act alone should have gotten Artest thrown out of the league. But nooooooo, the rigged anti-Spurs NBA calls a foul on Manu!He didn't have to see it coming. He exaggerates contact the instant he's hit. He's done it his whole life.
Artest's forearm is just as bad as a punch. No, it's just as bad as attempted murder. It's the most outrageous act I've ever seen. And you know as well as I do that Spurs fans never exaggerate. It's worse than Kermit Washington. Manu could have been decapitated!
And how dare you say Manu flops? Manu is intrinsically incapable of deceit. The Spurs uniform washes away all sin and makes players holy. I've seen cases where players were able to manipulate air pressure to cause Manu to flail wildly without actually touching him. Clearly that shows the NBA has a problem with players dabbling in the occult. It does NOT mean Manu flops. It means that the Spurs are on the side of Jesus, and the opponents worship Satan.
It's a sign of the anti-Spurs conspiracy that Artest was only suspended one game. If the NBA were fair, they would just call off the NBA playoffs and crown the Spurs NBA champions. Even that's not enough. In addition, the Kings should have to subsidize it so Southside fans can go to Spurs games for $5 and get free beer. Anything less is proof of the conspiracy.
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