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    jesus...

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    Some of those proposed deals were flat silly. Lakers wanted Kidd for free and Chicago keeps wanting Gasol practically for free, as well.

    If I'm New Jersey, I might have made a mistake not to take those packages for Kidd (from Phoenix) and for Carter (from New York). There were some nice pieces in there.

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    Any confirmation on Memphis? I want to see if they were really after Atkins.

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    Any confirmation on Memphis? I want to see if they were really after Atkins.
    No confirmation as of yet...

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    From Hoopsworld, so trust it or not, but here were some almost-deals that are interesting...also a note on the Spurs, but still no official word (I'm not sold just yet...)

    http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_20944.shtml


    By Steve "BskBALL" Kyler
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    Feb 22, 2007, 16:48


    You Can’t Say I Didn’t Tell You…

    It’s in the video on the main page – there was a lot of talk… at the end of the day, two deals got done and that’s the end of the 2007 NBA trade season.

    Here are some of the things that didn’t happen but got close – according to the 45 phone calls exchanged at 3:05pm EST…

    A For Effort- You gotta hand it to the Cavaliers – they worked the phones all day trying to make something out of nothing. At the end of the day they did not have the pieces to get Sacramento to move on Mike Bibby. The Kings will likely explore moving Mike this summer when there are more options, and do not be surprised to see Cleveland back in the hunt for Bibby in 4 months.

    Miami Tried- Word is the HEAT were simply too late to the dance, word is they had Dorell Wright and Udonis Haslem on the table for Bibby, but that was not enough. One Miami source wondered aloud if that was offered for Bibby, what did Miami offer for Vince Carter and Jason Kidd?

    The Spurs Played It Safe- At the top of the day it was said the Spurs were willing to trigger the “right deal” – several teams called about Beno Udrih, and Beno himself said last week his agent told him more than a handful of team were interested. Spurs head coach Greg Popovich said yesterday that he’d be hard pressed to move his “insurance policy”

    Toronto Made A Move On Darko- The Raptors had a second deal in mind when they triggered Juan Dixon, and that was sending Morris Peterson to Orlando for Darko Milicic. The Magic passed on the deal, but word is Toronto may make another run at Darko this summer when he hits restricted free agency.

    Lakers Thought They Had Him- The Lakers genuinely thought they had a deal for Jason Kidd last night, word was Jerry Buss agreed to send $3 million in cash and two future number one draft choices, including this year’s pick. At the end of the day it was not enough for New Jersey – who was steadfast that a Kidd deal had to involve Andrew Bynum. The Lakers are expected to add Scottie Pippen in the coming days and will be watching the waiver wires.

    Dennis Johnson Dies During Practice- Former Celtic star and D-League coach of the Austin Toros Dennis Johnson collapsed during a practice today, and ultimately died. The cause is not yet known, and the news was shocking as the league tried to uncover all the trade moves taking place. Dennis Johnson was 52.

    I also find the almost-deal for Darko interesting...and the continued future interest...

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    just got out of jail. what a boring trade day thanks for the info. fellas

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    Sweet. The Spurs stand pat due to this winning streak giving them false hope! Love it! BTW nice move for the Mavs getting a decent pick.

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    Found this nugget in an article (will post link below) that states Jones has agreed to cut his contract short one year, basically making this trade a wash contractually....

    http://www.salem-news.com/sports/feb...ade_022227.php
    Guess that means that he wanted the trade. He wasn't getting to play at all, and he's back home.

    I also find the almost-deal for Darko interesting...and the continued future interest...
    Chad Ford has been grumbling about Darko to Toronto for a while. They would have to move Rasho in the summer to sign Darko.

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    Well, I suppose we can hope that Atkins gets bought out now.

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    Well, I suppose we can hope that Atkins gets bought out now.
    But the Spurs don't have a roster spot available to sign him...

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    But the Spurs don't have a roster spot available to sign him...
    Easy enough to waive a player.

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    Chad Ford has been grumbling about Darko to Toronto for a while. They would have to move Rasho in the summer to sign Darko.
    Why? They won't be far enough under the cap to sign him to an offer sheet if they don't?

    It's not like Rasho is averaging 35MPG and the Raps play Bosh out of position at Center for a prolonged stretch on the Court. Darko just adds to the potential depth at F/C and if I'm not mistaken, the Raps have the cap space to at least make a decent offer...

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    Easy enough to waive a player.
    I know Chump...which one is what I was getting at? The Spurs only expiring contract is Bonner...the Spurs would have to eat the cost into next year if it was anyone else...

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    Vaughn is on a one year deal and I believe White's next year is nonguaranteed.

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    I don't see them waiving anyone. White and Udrih are still valuable and they'll keep Vaughn for chemistry and for producing at least something so far. On court chemistry is at least as important as anything else.

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    Vaughn is on a one year deal and I believe White's next year is nonguaranteed.
    Yeah, White's next year is a team option, so that is a possiblity.

    I have a hard time thinking the Spurs would get rid of Vaughn, they obviously like his hustle and defense enough to jump him over Beno for the second spot...

    But, I'd be all for it...

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    What value does White have?

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    What value does White have?
    No current value, but potential future value....

    He was good enough to get drafted at the top of the second round and was good enough to get picked up a second time after Rick Carlisle made "the hardest cut of his life", and if the Spurs get rid of him, I guarantee he doesn't last more than 10 days w/o a contract. I wouldn't give up on him just yet....

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    What value does White have?
    A little. Julius Hodge just got unceremoniously waived, so I'd say White has a grace period of a year before he reaches that point. I was thinking he'd be worth sweetening a deal for another player, but that's not likely to happen, either. He's basically Bobby Jones at this point. Who's Bobby Jones, you may ask? Exactly. The real winner? Portland.

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    He was good enough to get drafted at the top of the second round and was good enough to get picked up a second time after Rick Carlisle made "the hardest cut of his life"
    He also cleared waivers and didn't exactly set the D-League on fire.
    if the Spurs get rid of him, I guarantee he doesn't last more than 10 days w/o a contract.
    Same with Atkins. Who would help this team win this year? Sure I wouldn't be crazy about letting White go, but this is a no brainer.

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    A little. Julius Hodge just got unceremoniously waived, so I'd say White has a grace period of a year before he reaches that point.
    Not really, the only thing that kept Hodge in the league that long was a guaranteed rookie scale contract.

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    What time is the deadline?

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    The 'grace period' I meant in terms of "he's turning the corner soon!" It's surprising how fast some teams are willing to throw away guys who haven't produced -- Utah was avidly shopping Ronnie Brewer, the Clippers were done with Korolev a while ago -- which begs the question, how long does a pick get before he gets thrown away?

    Not saying White will turn the corner. IMO he's as fundamentally worthless as Jackie Butler>>> and, Mrs. White and Mrs. Butler, I'm not saying that personally about your sons.

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    What time is the deadline?
    105 mins ago.

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    Sure there's potential, but again -- who would help win this year? White or Atkins? If Atkins wants to join, are you really willing to say "No thanks, James White might be able to play in an NBA game someday."?

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