Scola shines on Tau´s win vs. Pau Orthez

[Cant_Be_Faded]

how the has this thread gone on so long

[AFBlue]

So wait...

If Horry retires before his contract is up, do the Spurs get granted an "exception" for the full amount of his contract ($4M), or just the guaranteed portion, which is considerably less? How does his potential retirement effect the MLE and overall cap figure for next year? Just curious...

[ChumpDumper]

ok,so they knew the buy out was big,we agree on that?
The thing was that the had this agreement back in 2002 that they´d just let him go to the NBA for a Millon bucks buyout.

If he was drafted in the first round.

So,why didn´t the spurs bring him in back them?

Because they didn't draft him in the first round and Tau wanted the $14.5 million. The Spurs did not expect that at all.[quote]They waited and Now TAU knows It´ll be hard to replace him.[quote]Tau always knew that. They used the loophole in teh buyout agreement to hold on to Scola.

And the contract never changed,the buyout did

I said the terms of his buyout changed. What part of that did you not understand?

[ChumpDumper]

So wait...

If Horry retires before his contract is up, do the Spurs get granted an "exception" for the full amount of his contract ($4M), or just the guaranteed portion, which is considerably less?

There is no exception granted for a regular retirement.

How does his potential retirement effect the MLE and overall cap figure for next year?

Nominally, not at all.

[ArgSpursFan]

so,the spurs will have $4 M extra to spend next year,when Horry retires.right?

[ChumpDumper]

so,the spurs will have $4 M extra to spend next year,when Horry retires.right?

NO.

[regio]

i´d say
Ginobili=Scola=Nocioni>Delfino(But he is still young)

If that's the case the Spurs need to give him the 9 million 3 year deal and trade Oberto for a Dave & Busters gift card

[ArgSpursFan]

If that's the case the Spurs need to give him the 9 million 3 year deal and trade Oberto for a Dave & Busters gift card

Unfortunely Oberto doesn´t have the size and Power to be an NBA center,He can be a decent Backup PF/C at the most.But everybody knew that,this is not new for people know follows FIBA and International tournaments.I guess the spurs thought It was gonna be enough with Fabbs BBIQs to fill the Center spot.+They didn´t want to spend more money tham what the spent with Fabbs.
So,basically they´ve got what they paid for.

[objective]

If that's the case the Spurs need to give him the 9 million 3 year deal and trade Oberto for a Dave & Busters gift card

if there's any good luck to go around, something will make Oberto opt out of his contract and leave for Europe or some other NBA team.

I'm crossing my fingers hoping that Oberto eventually gets put on the inactive list later this regular season for Ely to get some modest burn. Hopefully that would do the trick. But those are some big dreams.

[ducks]

if his buyout is 4 million
spurs can pay 750 k now I think with the new cba before only 500k
he should sign a 2 or 3 year deal no more then 9 million for three years
if not then trade his rights

[AFBlue]

There is no exception granted for a regular retirement.Nominally, not at all.

Only a retirement forced by injury right (a la Bob Sura)?

[Cant_Be_Faded]

its like

SCOLA PLAYED WELL

scola should be traded, that increases his trade value


SCOLA SHOULD BE A GOOD SPUR

euro euro euro, let's follow euro ball cuz its applicable to the spurs in the year 2007


SCOLA PLAYED WELL

repeat
ad infinitum
i guess

[regio]

how the has this thread gone on so long

Because everytime you post a new page is created since your signature is so gigantic
jk

[ChumpDumper]

Only a retirement forced by injury right (a la Bob Sura)?

Actually, only a missed season forced by injury. An injury retirement usually removes the contract from a team's cap figure. I believe Sura's case is the former, not the latter.

[WalterBenitez]

That´s what I´ve been trying to explain for over 8 pages in this thread.FIBA rules are complicated and keep players scoring and rebounding lower tham NBA rules.
The reason why is that NBA,was created as a show,and in order to be a show,it has to have big scoring games and has to be spectacular.
FIBA rules are more like the NCAA rules,they´re not the same but they look alike alot.
That´s why Scola and many other great FIBA players average less points and rebounds in Europe.

Oh man you are inefficient I used two words and you 8 pages

[WalterBenitez]

me gustaria saber cuanto hace q seguis la NBA,por mi parte la sigo desde el 84,no desde q Argentinos llegaron a la NBA.Y aparte si me equivoco en nombrar un partido q fue en el mudial,con respecto a uno de olimpiada,lo hago porque no estoy fijandome las estadisticas y las fechas exactas de los partidos en otras paginas de internet.Y si no te gusta no leas lo que tengo q decir.
Aparte a mi no me molesta q me lleven la contra y no es mi intencion agrandar a nadie,al contrario si fuera por mi Oberto se podria ir a vivir a Cordoba en este momento y dejar de dar lastima en la NBA.
Asi que si no te molesta dejame de romper las pelotas .
y si te molesta tanto lo q digo nos sacamos la bronca y listo.Yo vivo en Orlando 6 meses y 6 meses en Arg,asi que decime donde estas asi te rompo el alma y nos sacamos la bronca,ok?

Your spanish is great, we are suppossed to write in english

Hey, I left a great firlfriend who is living in Orlando, say hi to her

[WalterBenitez]

what is english to hard to ask for? .

Well, it is interesting that people loves his/her native language to on somebody properly

[WalterBenitez]

i´d say
Ginobili=Scola=Nocioni>Delfino(But he is still young)

hmmmm, may I Sir ?... I think Manu is a craftman the rest are only good players ... Cahpu is doing well (despite of the injury) in CHicago, but Scola could be undersized to NBA

[Bruno]

Just a little info that I've found quite funny (not worth starting a new thread) :

Melvin Sanders has now the Georgian nationality.
He keeps too his american nationality but he will play for the Georgian NT this summer. It could seem strange because Sanders has nothing to do with the Georgia but this kind of things happen more and more now : Georgia improve his BB NT, Sanders will earn more money if he stays in europe next year because there are quotas on american players in europe and Pau will be able to use Sanders in french league where he couldn't play before because of these quotas.

[ChumpDumper]

I think Shammond Williams did the same thing.

[timvp]

Yeah and Shammond Williams got paid nicely to do so

Congrats to Melvin Sanders if he got the same deal that Williams had.

[Bruno]

Another american (Tyrone Ellis) plays too for Georgia.
Sanders get too a pre-contract with Pau for next year just after he get his Georgian nationality.
BTW, Pau's coach is too georgian NT coach

[Mr. Body]

I'll play for Georgia. How much is it?

[ArgSpursFan]

Just a little info that I've found quite funny (not worth starting a new thread) :

Melvin Sanders has now the Georgian nationality.
He keeps too his american nationality but he will play for the Georgian NT this summer. It could seem strange because Sanders has nothing to do with the Georgia but this kind of things happen more and more now : Georgia improve his BB NT, Sanders will earn more money if he stays in europe next year because there are quotas on american players in europe and Pau will be able to use Sanders in french league where he couldn't play before because of these quotas.

Scola did the same.he became Spanish and kept his Arg,Nationality as well to keep on playing for the Arg Nat.Team,and I think Manu did the same in Italy years back.

[ArgSpursFan]

BTW,this happens all the time in Europe because of those stupid quotas(limited forenge players rule)they have over there.
I´m not sure but TP´s dad did the same I belive.I´ll look it up though.