Real 9-11 Research

[smeagol]

If you have not read the report, you cannot opine.

I will keep my trap shut.

[ChumpDumper]

Just to catch you up.....the (second version) NIST report on WT7 still hasn't been released....the FEMA report pancake theory on WT1 and WT2 have been repeatedly depunked....

And your theory hasn't been posted yet.

[ChumpDumper]

en led"final report of the national commission on terrorist attacks upon the US"

It is the final report of that commission. You expected them to run on indefinitely?

[ChumpDumper]

of course chumpdumper said they were indentifed, just not by their names or dates of birth

We've been over this. Again, read Perfect Soldiers if you really care that much. You can buy a copy for $1.99 online.

[mookie2001]

no i want an open investigation like ive said dozens of times

focusing on the damage from aircrafts, fires, melting steel, structure, collapse and building 7-the things omitted

because the report is complete bull

[mookie2001]

so in perfect soldiers it tells the real names and birthdates of the hijackers?

[Nbadan]

...I think what you'd really find is that no only could have the administration known from intelligence sources that already existed and possibly, no make that, likely, spoiled the plot, they should have known.......

[ChumpDumper]

so in perfect soldiers it tells the real names and birthdates of the hijackers?

Here is a little exchange between familiar parties half a year ago:

what are you talking about? who knows what responsibility he had?, yeah he was a terrorist, head of al queda, he was also a known cia operative, they dont even know the iden ies of the hijackers


also


I NEVER SAID WHO ORCHESTRATED THE ATTACKS, ever in any thread

If you are curious about the hijackers, I invite you to listen to reporter Terry McDermott, who spent quite a bit of time researching their lives.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=4630481

You don't even have to read....

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost...1&postcount=23

It is obvious you really don't give that much of a about any of this, so I don't understand why you keep acting like you do.

[mookie2001]

notes from NPR interview


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he traveled

men

a politcal

extremist

la times

atta

flight 11

egypt-germany

no mosque

jihad


friends

talking

these guys

volunteers

KSM

obl 96

pakistan

kuwait

NC

afghanistan fight soviets/funded, trained and armed by the US

bombs

missle planes

modern terror

pilots

targets

suicide

2 saudi 2 yemenies

asia

US

visa problems

pilots

1999

training camps AQ

khandahar

spoke english

german

flight schools

saudi pilot

hamburg

atta meeting

atta cap and gown

mommas sick

dont drop out son

get a PHD

landlord

dont like media

im terry im special

cant get the names because german laws

im lucky

i found a house

we formed a crew

gave him a card

we're stupid

file

laidback beer drinker

roommates

they didnt sleep in the same bed

he didnt wash dishes

boiled taters and ATE THEM

ate more taters

average people

al shahee?

gave candy to kids

one hijacker GOT MARRIED

zia jarah?

groundbreaking info, they wanted to die for jihad

500 people

arab myth US is smart

newspapers

i still fly

im secular

i wrote a book

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so in his book he gives the real names and dobs of the hijackers or not?
and if he did, why cant he tell the FBI

[ChumpDumper]

I'm really failing to see where you are going with this. This guy worked for three years, went to over 20 countries and interviewed over 500 people. Did HE say anything about doubting the actual iden ies of the hijackers?

No, he didn't.

Maybe you can tell me the particulars of the research of the person who originated your pet theory (whatever it actually is). How many years did he research it? How many countries did he visit? How many people did he interview?

[mookie2001]

4th time

in the book, that youve read, does he give (what he thinks) are the real names and DOBs of the hijackers?

and why doesnt he tell the FBI?

[ChumpDumper]

I don't have the book on me right now; I do remember names and dates but that was not the sole purpose of the book. Again, what is the significance of this question?

[mookie2001]

because youre saying im wrong when i say these arab men are unidentified


the info could be helpful to the FBI, I dont think they have such informative

it could also help in IDing future terrorists

[ChumpDumper]

because youre trying to say im wrong when i say these arab men are unidentified

They certainly have been identified to my satisfaction. If nothing short of "CSI" certainty and full DNA profiles are what you're looking for, no one and no thing is ever going to satisfy you.

Now, what is your theory about the "unidentified" hijackers?

[mookie2001]

DNA??

what about names and birthdates?

my theory is that they are unidentified
if they had been IDed you and 10 other people would have linked to something more concrete than an audio file in which some guy named terry talks about boiled potatoes

[ChumpDumper]

my theory is that they are unidentified

And? Mine is they are identified.

if they had been IDed you and 10 other people would have linked to something more concrete than an audio file in which some guy named terry talks about boiled potatoes

Read the ing book. Or do the same research McDermott did so you can actually have enough cred to scoff him. See you in three years.

[mookie2001]

then we're back to where we started

post 223, this thread

chumpdumper says they were identified, just not by names or dates of birth

[ChumpDumper]

I believe several were so identified names and dates of birth.

What theory of yours is based on your belief none of them were identified?

[Nbadan]

I think he may be alluding to M.E. reports that many of the alleged 911 hijackers were still found to be alive after the attacks...

[ChumpDumper]

I think he may be alluding to M.E. reports that many of the alleged 911 hijackers were still found to be alive after the attacks...

If I Google my name I get a children's author. If I do more research, I find me.

[mookie2001]

I never said that was the basis of anything, just that you were wrong

youre not often wrong about something in the political forum

it makes you mad, you cant let it go



but it indicates that it was a bad/unsuccessful investigation

and a connection to the terrorist organization "al queda" is fuzzy at best and was most likely another terrorist group

[mookie2001]

-another terrorist group with the same intentions of harming us

[Nbadan]

...I haven't read McDermott's book, but how sad that chump's definitive investigation into the lives of the perpetrators is done by a author with a limited budget....

[ChumpDumper]

I never said that was the basis of anything, just that you were wrong

In what why am I wrong?

What is your source for this?

There are names for all the hijackers, and only four of them have no birthdate listed.

I still don't know why you think none of them have been identified.

[ChumpDumper]

...I haven't read McDermott's book, but how sad that chump's definitive investigation into the lives of the perpetrators is done by a author with a limited budget....

And your nontheory is based upon?