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    I don't see at all Bulls getting a superstar this summer. Their owner is quite cheap and these players are really expensive.

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    No matter if Chicago drafts Yi or Noah, they should still be interested in Scola. Back when they were horning in on Hawes (before Minnesota looked like they'd take him), I still thought they needed two post scorers, since neither Hawes nor Scola would be proven yet.

    But yes, a draft of Noah makes a deal for Scola more likely.

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    Agreed, this will be a plot-line to follow as the draft approaches.

    A snag in the Nocioni to Spurs hypothetical is the Bulls' interest in Kobe Bryant and the possiblity that Nocioni is a likely candidate to be included in any deals for a superstar player...be it Kobe, Garnett, Gasol, O'Neal, etc.
    Nocioni can pick anywhere he wants to go if he is traded. They can't just sign and trade him, he has to agree to the deal first.

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    Nocioni can pick anywhere he wants to go if he is traded. They can't just sign and trade him, he has to agree to the deal first.
    He's a restricted free agent. All they technically have to do is sign him to a qualifying offer and he's on the hook. But I think if they give him adequate compensation, he won't complain.

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    I would love to have this be the year the Spurs land Scola, but given the Spurs tradition of extreme fiscal responsibility, I think they either try to deal his rights or wait until next year when the buyout price comes down.

    UNLESS...

    ...the Suns land Garnett without having to give up Amare. Or Dallas somehow lands Kobe (which I admit is extremely unlikely).

    In the case of either of those things happening, the Spurs would have to make a move to get Scola over here now, and/or find some other help (prying Duhon and Nocioni away from Chicago, signing Gerald Wallace, etc.). Otherwise they can kiss a shot at the 2008 ring goodbye.

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    the Spurs would have to make a move to get Scola over here now, and/or find some other help (prying Duhon and Nocioni away from Chicago, signing Gerald Wallace, etc.). Otherwise they can kiss a shot at the 2008 ring goodbye
    did some other teams do something already to make themselves better?

    Link to that?

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    did some other teams do something already to make themselves better?

    Link to that?
    The Rockets made a move and got Mike James. The Trophy is practically theirs, now.


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    I think He´s asuming that Garnett & Kobe will be landing in Phx and Dallas,which I highly doubt.

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    I'm saying the Spurs would have to make a move IF something like the Garnett-to-Phoenix or Kobe-to-Dallas thing happened. IF

    Granted, if everyone in the Western conference just stands pat then the Spurs look like the favorite for next year.

    I was just trying to come up with a situation in which the Spurs would spring for the Scola buyout this year.

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    The Spurs can't pay the whole buyout anyway. Scola has to work that out and last year was looking for more money from the Spurs to pay it himself. If the buyout has indeed gone down and Tau may be willing to work out something more for him then Scola may be more willing to accept a smaller contract with the Spurs.

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    an update from draft express today (i know the guy has been wrong about his buyout numbers but here is some different news)

    http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=2134

    Teams thinking about trading a draft pick on Wednesday for Luis Scola should know that he is mulling over a 5-year contract offer for a ridiculous sum of 10 million Euros. After calculating taxes and the exchange rate, we figure Scola will be essentially signing a deal for the mid-level Exception if he indeed decides to take it. That just gives you an idea of how much ground European teams have made up on the NBA in their ability to compete financially over the past few years. Scola reportedly loves playing in Spain and is a long-shot to ever make it over to the NBA.
    more fuel to the fire that is Scola. I certainly wouldn't be surprised if Scola does a re-up for the cash. He turned it down before, but now sounds like he's gotten a better offer. Why sit around another year hoping the Spurs trade his rights when he can get paid now? It's not like the Spurs have ever looked to do him any favors, and given his and his agent's toxic statements in the past, people shouldn't be surprised if he ends up destroying whatever value his draft rights have.

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    Of course Scola should consider contract offers. There's absolutely no promise the Spurs will let an NBA team bring him over anytime soon. And why the does Givony think a 5 year deal for 10 million Euros is 'ridiculous'?

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    considering how highly (relatively) Givony has spoken of Scola in the past, I would guess the 'ridiculous' part of his statement reflects his astonishment at how high euro-contracts have risen.

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    Of course Scola should consider contract offers. There's absolutely no promise the Spurs will let an NBA team bring him over anytime soon. And why the does Givony think a 5 year deal for 10 million Euros is 'ridiculous'?
    yeah i don't get how it's ridiculous, 10 million euros = 13.4 million dollars. That's 2.7 million usd per year. does anyone know if taxes in europe are higher or lower then in america?

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    supposedly the numbers posted news accounts of euro contracts are all NET, that is, after taxes.

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    yeah i don't get how it's ridiculous, 10 million euros = 13.4 million dollars. That's 2.7 million usd per year. does anyone know if taxes in europe are higher or lower then in america?
    I don't know. Givony's been saying some pretty silly stuff about Scola lately.

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    I take what comes from Draftexpress with a big grain of salt.
    It's a quite good site with a lot of info but they aren't realiable.
    They rally lack of a journalist work ethic.

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    2.7after taxes?

    MLE IN TEXAS income tax exempt ftw

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    Of course Scola should consider contract offers. There's absolutely no promise the Spurs will let an NBA team bring him over anytime soon. And why the does Givony think a 5 year deal for 10 million Euros is 'ridiculous'?
    Maybe he confused the $ to ₤ rate with the $ to € rate. Even then, that would be $20mil/5yrs which isn't close to what a full MLE contract over that time period would be.

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    if butler is on the block scola may be a spur

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    He doesn't even reference a source. This is probably a third-hand rumor, or floated by Scola's agent.

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    I have a very good friend, he's a Mavs fan, but still a good friend that works here in Bandeirantes radio, a big Brazil radio.

    Last week he interviewed Tiago Splitter about the draft. He asked him about Scola and Tiago said that he didn't think Scola would go to the NBA next season. Tiago said Scola is doing very good in Spain and fans and Tau respect him a lot.

    He said Scola doesn't have the 'dream' to play in NBA

    Tiago also said that it will be dificult for him to come to NBA next season because of his contracts problems with Tau but he hopes he can be selected in the 1st round

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    I just hope Scola doesn't become another Bodiroga.

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    yeah i don't get how it's ridiculous, 10 million euros = 13.4 million dollars. That's 2.7 million usd per year. does anyone know if taxes in europe are higher or lower then in america?
    With their socialist views? Higher much higher.

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    I have a very good friend, he's a Mavs fan, but still a good friend that works here in Bandeirantes radio, a big Brazil radio.

    Last week he interviewed Tiago Splitter about the draft. He asked him about Scola and Tiago said that he didn't think Scola would go to the NBA next season. Tiago said Scola is doing very good in Spain and fans and Tau respect him a lot.

    He said Scola doesn't have the 'dream' to play in NBA

    Tiago also said that it will be dificult for him to come to NBA next season because of his contracts problems with Tau but he hopes he can be selected in the 1st round
    If he doesn't have the dream to play in the NBA I don't want his soft ass on the Spurs anyway.

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