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    Memphis is targeting a free agent this off season? Who?

    Seattle has Kurt Thomas with an expiring contract and Miami has Jason Williams and Ricky Davis with expiring contracts. They could package way better picks to Memphis, from what I can tell. Help from Spurs capalogists?
    Why would Seattle want Pau Gasol? Of the teams that were interested in acquiring Gasol, the Lakers had the best deal. I know you guys desperately want to cry conspiracy but the reality is there was nothing shady about this deal. Bulls didn't want to pay the luxury tax, Lakers did. Lakers get Gasol.

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    I keep pulling bs out of my ass and digging myself a deeper hole cause i have no life on a friday night so i decide to pollute a basketball forum

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    Trading for potential is how you end up like the Knicks.
    Heisley wants the Grizz to end up like the Clippers of a few seasons ago.

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    Right. Young franchise players averaging almost 20/10 are often traded within their own conference for the allure of sheer, unbridled potential. Happens all the time.

    Trading for potential is how you end up like the Knicks.
    It's called a firesale, and yes it does happen. How do you think GSW got Baron Davis for scraps?

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    Why would Seattle want Pau Gasol? Of the teams that were interested in acquiring Gasol, the Lakers had the best deal. I know you guys desperately want to cry conspiracy but the reality is there was nothing shady about this deal. Bulls didn't want to pay the luxury tax, Lakers did. Lakers get Gasol.
    Why would they want Gasol?

    Gee they wouldn't want a post presence to go with Wilcox and Durant.

    Nahhhhhhh

    christ

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    It's called a firesale, and yes it does happen. How do you think GSW got Baron Davis for scraps?
    Cause Baron Davis asked for a trade.

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    LOL my leg is broken and I can't do anything but sit at home and watch sports. What's your excuse?

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    Cry me a river tankers. You guys had "David soft as a marshmallow Robinson" and tanked it to get Duncan. Pop replaces Mike D as the biggest whiner in the league. Lakers already did y'all a favor by blowing up their team the first time around. Just goes to show you guys can only win by default or cheating like how you did when you tanked the season to get Timmy.
    At least we have the balls to say what we want to say. Your team wouldn't have reached the playoffs if JERRY WEST didn't sell memphis to spoon feed your sorry asses.

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    I like Pop but I think he is off here completely.

    First off, player contracts are property, and it is a business. Deals are made all the time that are about business and have nothing to do with basketball, or skill, or value as a player. The Spurs have done this themselves, so to act as if there is something fishy about Pau to the Lakers is just plain hypocritical.

    Gasol was whining and sulking- so they traded him. They did not find a deal of comparable player value, but they do not have to. All they have to do is make a deal that abides by the CBA and they did. They got for him the biggest expiring deal they could to clear as much salary as possible. That is their right to do this for business purposes. The Lakers made a reasonable offer for what the goal of the Grizzlies was- to get rid of the financial obligation. Pau is so soft and wimpy and of no value- like people claim on here- then why any claim that there is something amiss with regards to this trade.

    And I don't care if West consults for Memphis or not-- you do not think that teams that have relationships are more likely to deal with each other- that GM's who know each other and are on more friendly terms are more likely to work out deals than those that can not stand each other. You think talks between GM's who played together are coincidences? You don't think it benefits bewteen guys like RC, Sam, and Kevin?

    Teams are just mad because they did not get in on the action. They look and think- Wow, we could have had Pau. But Memphis is under no obligation to advertise to the entire NBA what they are doing or what their asking price is? They can take back whatever they want from whomever they want, as long as it abides by the rules. It looks kind of stupid for a team to gripe who traded the contract of a retiring Danny Ferry to get 2 players about uneven deals.

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    Why would they want Gasol?

    Gee they wouldn't want a post presence to go with Wilcox and Durant.

    Nahhhhhhh

    christ
    Seattle is a running team. Gasol does not fit in with what they want to do. Stop being stupid.

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    LOL my leg is broken and I can't do anything but sit at home and watch sports.
    That's what you get for cheating.

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    Seattle is a running team cause they have no one to put next to Durant to help them you moron.

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    Why would Seattle want Pau Gasol? Of the teams that were interested in acquiring Gasol, the Lakers had the best deal. I know you guys desperately want to cry conspiracy but the reality is there was nothing shady about this deal. Bulls didn't want to pay the luxury tax, Lakers did. Lakers get Gasol.
    Why wouldn't they want him? Isn't he the best power forward in the league?

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    Well played slayer well played.

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    I like Pop but I think he is off here completely.

    First off, player contracts are property, and it is a business. Deals are made all the time that are about business and have nothing to do with basketball, or skill, or value as a player. The Spurs have done this themselves, so to act as if there is something fishy about Pau to the Lakers is just plain hypocritical.

    Gasol was whining and sulking- so they traded him. They did not find a deal of comparable player value, but they do not have to. All they have to do is make a deal that abides by the CBA and they did. They got for him the biggest expiring deal they could to clear as much salary as possible. That is their right to do this for business purposes. The Lakers made a reasonable offer for what the goal of the Grizzlies was- to get rid of the financial obligation. Pau is so soft and wimpy and of no value- like people claim on here- then why any claim that there is something amiss with regards to this trade.

    And I don't care if West consults for Memphis or not-- you do not think that teams that have relationships are more likely to deal with each other- that GM's who know each other and are on more friendly terms are more likely to work out deals than those that can not stand each other. You think talks between GM's who played together are coincidences? You don't think it benefits bewteen guys like RC, Sam, and Kevin?

    Teams are just mad because they did not get in on the action. They look and think- Wow, we could have had Pau. But Memphis is under no obligation to advertise to the entire NBA what they are doing or what their asking price is? They can take back whatever they want from whomever they want, as long as it abides by the rules. It looks kind of stupid for a team to gripe who traded the non-guaranteed contract of a retiring Danny Ferry to get 2 players about uneven deals.
    Gets it. This is what I've been trying to say to these guys this whole time. The NBA is as much a business as it is anything else.

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    There are several teams with multiple guys with expiring contracts. This really doesn't make sense to me because almost all those teams can offer better draft picks.

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    ploto's explanation was a little wordy.

    Michael Heisley is losing 2% of his net worth a year on a basketball team that sucks ass.

    He would like that to stop.

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    ploto's explanation was a little wordy.

    Michael Heisley is losing 2% of his net worth a year on a basketball team that sucks ass.

    He would like that to stop.
    end thread

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    Michael Heisley is losing 2% of his net worth a year on a basketball team that sucks ass.
    Yikes....

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    I like Pop but I think he is off here completely.

    First off, player contracts are property, and it is a business. Deals are made all the time that are about business and have nothing to do with basketball, or skill, or value as a player. The Spurs have done this themselves, so to act as if there is something fishy about Pau to the Lakers is just plain hypocritical.

    Gasol was whining and sulking- so they traded him. They did not find a deal of comparable player value, but they do not have to. All they have to do is make a deal that abides by the CBA and they did. They got for him the biggest expiring deal they could to clear as much salary as possible. That is their right to do this for business purposes. The Lakers made a reasonable offer for what the goal of the Grizzlies was- to get rid of the financial obligation. Pau is so soft and wimpy and of no value- like people claim on here- then why any claim that there is something amiss with regards to this trade.

    And I don't care if West consults for Memphis or not-- you do not think that teams that have relationships are more likely to deal with each other- that GM's who know each other and are on more friendly terms are more likely to work out deals than those that can not stand each other. You think talks between GM's who played together are coincidences? You don't think it benefits bewteen guys like RC, Sam, and Kevin?

    Teams are just mad because they did not get in on the action. They look and think- Wow, we could have had Pau. But Memphis is under no obligation to advertise to the entire NBA what they are doing or what their asking price is? They can take back whatever they want from whomever they want, as long as it abides by the rules. It looks kind of stupid for a team to gripe who traded the contract of a retiring Danny Ferry to get 2 players about uneven deals.
    Finally, a voice of reason. That was articulate and very well written. Something you have to do for these dumb Spurs fans to understand.

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    There are several teams with multiple guys with expiring contracts. This really doesn't make sense to me because almost all those teams can offer better draft picks.
    And they were willing to take back Gasol's contract? You know he is set to make almost $50M over the next 3 seasons.

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    And they were willing to take back Gasol's contract? You know he is set to make almost $50M over the next 3 seasons.
    Exactly. It's one thing to say Team X has a better deal, but does Team X actually want Gasol? Can they afford him? When you put all those things together LA was the best suitor and they got the prize.

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    ploto's explanation was a little wordy.

    Michael Heisley is losing 2% of his net worth a year on a basketball team that sucks ass.

    He would like that to stop.
    Trading away the franchise for potential and no NBA ready player in return doesn't seem like the fastest way to kick start a new winning era.

    Confused: Baron Davis isn't 7'0 tall and young and the Hornets at least got two NBA players with experience back for him. Big men will always be far more coveted than talented point guards. Trading a franchise calibur big man for draft picks and space is re ed.

    It's late. I'm out.

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    Trading away the franchise for potential and no NBA ready player in return doesn't seem like the fastest way to kick start a new winning era.
    Who said anything about winning?

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    Something you have to do for these dumb Spurs fans to understand.
    Whats your excuse for being at home alone on a friday night.

    The zits not go down enough?

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