The Spurs are Fine

[Brutalis]

You're melting down over the regular season.


Season isn't over...it hasn't even begun.


One of us is right...and one of us is overeacting.

Hey lurkers. Yeah you reading this right now reading every page in this thread but not posting.

Am I melting down or freaking out or jumping ship or killing myself over this?

Maybe we'll get an answer. But no, I have done none of the above. Learn how to debate without reaching in the bottom of the sack for an answer. To run with me, and this is ego for ya, you must bring it. Not that weak you're ugly, you're melting down, wishy washy bull .

Give me something I can use and I will run with ya all night whottt. Pick up your slack.

[Brutalis]

Was a 3 peat team. Not a repeat.

We'll look at the 3 peaters when it's time to 3 peat.

I also left out a 3rd bulls team that won less and 3 peated.

Why should it matter?

A repeat is a repeat of the last year no matter how you want to phrase or look at it?..

Reality check.

[whottt]

Wow I didn't even catch that great point and one fatal error by whottt.

I left out the Bulls team that won less and 3 peated.


3 peat is a different animal...those teams had two seasons of going the distance.


But every first time champion tha repeated won less...not more. Won less.

100% of the first time champions(and I mean this in the sense of repeating) that repeated, won less. They were not as good in the regular season...


100% of them.


100% of them.



I have just a little evidence on my side VS your stance of the wetness of your vag...

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

That's just so ing unreal. Really. I'm impressed.

Tell me, do you know what it's like to win a championship? Which position did you play? Which le teams were you on? Oh my god, were you David Robinson?!?!!?!?

Or were you just talking about watching it on TV? Believe it or not, I did that too. Guess we're in the same boat after all.

I've got a rather impressive trophy case myself. My ninth grade team kicked some serious azz!!!!

There's a pretty neat bowling trophy in there too. Of course, if you read the fine print it says "participant", but that's just code for "ultimate winning guy".

[E20]

San Antonio Spurs FTW in the PO's.

[L.I.T]

Hey lurkers. Yeah you reading this right now reading every page in this thread but not posting.

Am I melting down or freaking out or jumping ship or killing myself over this?

Maybe we'll get an answer. But no, I have done none of the above. Learn how to debate without reaching in the bottom of the sack for an answer. To run with me, and this is ego for ya, you must bring it. Not that weak you're ugly, you're melting down, wishy washy bull .

Give me something I can use and I will run with ya all night whottt. Pick up your slack.

Actually, yeah. The way it appears is that you're lashing out at anyone who doesn't share you odd "I believe in this team, but they suck so I'm gonna have it both ways" rhetoric.

Flame me all you want, but I typically on lurk around. If I remember correctly, this is about the first time I've been posting in a while.

[whottt]

That's just so ing unreal. Really. I'm impressed.

Tell me, do you know what it's like to win a championship? Which position did you play? Which le teams were you on? Oh my god, were you David Robinson?!?!!?!?

I sat on my ass and watched it...following every detail from start to finish. Living and dying with every win and every loss.


You OTOH, have done nothing but witness chokes.

Or were you just talking about watching it on TV? Believe it or not, I did that too.

Not the same...if you start talking about choking...I'll start listening, but other than that I don't see that you'd have a whole lot to tell me about the experience of your team winning an NBA championship.


And it's different than football...basketball teams are different than football teams.

Guess we're in the same boat after all.

How dare you claim we are in the same boat...how dare you.


And PS: 100% of the evidence is on my side.

100%.

[ShoogarBear]

Actually, yeah. The way it appears is that you're lashing out at anyone who doesn't share you odd "I believe in this team, but they suck so I'm gonna have it both ways" rhetoric.

Flame me all you want, but I typically on lurk around. If I remember correctly, this is about the first time I've been posting in a while.

I'm sure there's another strawman in there.

[DubMcDub]

If you think he's right, that's fine. I agree with what he said, actually. Fans of basketball have a right and the wherewithal to give their opinion on which teams can win championships.

So if I agree with him and you agree with him, that means you agree with me. I seriously don't understand what you are getting at. I ribbed him for being a Mav Fan and he got upset. I can understand that. I'll apologize if that's what he wants.

But I don't really understand what you are saying he's right about ... because I've already said he's right.

I don't mind being wrong. I don't mind being flamed. If I minded being flamed, I would have dusted off my ban button and banned whottt a long time ago. That guy flames me every chance he has.

Regarding the Mav Fan, the only thing that got him pizzed was me calling him a Mav Fan in a manner that he perceived as facetious. But then again, if every Spurs fan got flamed for flaming a Mav Fan, SpursTalk would be an empty place.

I don't want an apology. If I was upset, as you keep asserting, I'd ask for one.

If I had some prior rapport with you, or what not, I could easily see how you might get in a good-natured jab about the Mavs. But that's not the case.

All you did was prove yourself to be just like a strong majority of Spurs fans, albeit decidedly more intelligent.

[Holt's Cat]

What the has happened to this place?

[DubMcDub]

I sat on my ass and watched it...following every detail from start to finish. Living and dying with every win and every loss.


You OTOH, have done nothing but witness chokes.




Not the same...if you start talking about choking...I'll start listening, but other than that I don't see that you'd have a whole lot to tell me about the experience of your team winning an NBA championship.


And it's different than football...basketball teams are different than football teams.





How dare you claim we are in the same boat...how dare you.


And PS: 100% of the evidence is on my side.

100%.

You are so ing dense. I'll ask again--were you on the roster (or even, the coaching staff) for one of the Spurs le teams?

If not, your experience has been identical to mine, except you were rooting for a particular outcome. You haven't seen that I haven't seen. You haven't learned that I haven't learned.

Get it? What am I saying--of course you don't.

[Findog]

I sat on my ass and watched it...following every detail from start to finish. Living and dying with every win and every loss.


You OTOH, have done nothing but witness chokes.




Not the same...if you start talking about choking...I'll start listening, but other than that I don't see that you'd have a whole lot to tell me about the experience of your team winning an NBA championship.


And it's different than football...basketball teams are different than football teams.





How dare you claim we are in the same boat...how dare you.


And PS: 100% of the evidence is on my side.

100%.

Spurs have 4 rings, Mavs have an empty trophy case. What's your point? Every fanbase has good fans and bad fans, knowledgeable fans that live and die with their team or casual fans that hop on for the good times. What's your point?

[ShoogarBear]

What the has happened to this place?

What did you think was going to happen after that loss?

[timvp]

Spurs fans are typically more knowledgeable about the Spurs than fans of other teams, because they watch all the games and follow them more closely, just as Mavs fans tend to have more insight into the Mavs than other fans, etc...but you don't have to have a certain team affiliation to understand what works in the playoffs and what doesn't. The Spurs will probably get in to the playoffs and from there they have as good a chance as anybody.

I would defer to you or any other hardcore Spurs fan because you've seen about 45 more Spurs games this year than I have, but you don't necessarily have some sort of insight about what it takes to win a le than a fan of another team.

Exactly.

A hardcore Spurs fan is generally more able to compare a current year's team to teams of years past. Mostly because a hardcore Spurs fans has probably watched and researched more about the team than an all around basketball fan or a fan of a different team. Just like if I wanted to know whether Jason Kidd has made the Mavs better or worse, I'd ask a Mav fan. Rare is the basketball fan who can watch every game of every team.

[Brutalis]

If you think he's right, that's fine. I agree with what he said, actually. Fans of basketball have a right and the wherewithal to give their opinion on which teams can win championships.

Then know that's not how it looked at all in your initial replies to him.

So if I agree with him and you agree with him, that means you agree with me. I seriously don't understand what you are getting at. I ribbed him for being a Mav Fan and he got upset. I can understand that. I'll apologize if that's what he wants.

Then we all agree? I don't get it, what's it about then, or why did you handpick my reply to him to begin with if we all agree you think?

But I don't really understand what you are saying he's right about ... because I've already said he's right.

Pretty much everything he has said to you directly in this thread. That's easy enough. And if you agreed why did you drag it out or why do I see several replies if you guys going on?

I don't mind being wrong. I don't mind being flamed. If I minded being flamed, I would have dusted off my ban button and banned whottt a long time ago. That guy flames me every chance he has.

Then don't ever promote me to mod cause I would ban the first idiot along those lines I saw.

Regarding the Mav Fan, the only thing that got him pizzed was me calling him a Mav Fan in a manner that he perceived as facetious. But then again, if every Spurs fan got flamed for flaming a Mav Fan, SpursTalk would be an empty place.

It was facetious. Look at it from his view, or put yourself in his situation. You totally came off like "i know im longtime spur fan u not go way now bye" just not in the Japanese learning English way. You sort of showed him the door right when he made a witted reply. But from the way you speak now I guess you see that? Or what are you agreeing on exactly?

I wasn't sure what angle you were coming from. You agreeing with something I've already agreed with shouldn't really warrant a response from me.

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The beautiful thing about the NBA is we'll see if I was being too positive about the Spurs at the moment. If they continue swirling and end up crashing and burning, then yeah I was wrong. I'll admit it. I just honestly don't see it that way. If others do, that's fine. If others think the Spurs could possibly win it but don't agree with my outlook, that's also fine.

We'll find out in the end what this four-game losing streak truly meant.

You are too positive if there is such a thing. When we got owned by the Mavs, when we won it all. It's cool. You not so much as other names I won't mention, have this ego like, you forget how it felt before we won the rings kinda dealt. Again not you so much but my general point in how we talk to eachother and other team fans like we are just the , gold, off we own you bye peace c ya type thing. Arrogance, chip on the shoulder. And as I said maybe us getting owned this year by many above .500 teams, this skid, us as fans calling them out. Maybe that will be what they need to get their head on right.

Anyways, yeah. I am sort of confused on what the crap you agreed with cause I got lost midway through replying to others as well. I will check it out and reply later then I suppose if I missed what you, agreed, on, exactly. Lmao.

[DubMcDub]

Exactly.

A hardcore Spurs fan is generally more able to compare a current year's team to teams of years past. Mostly because a hardcore Spurs fans has probably watched and researched more about the team than an all around basketball fan or a fan of a different team. Just like if I wanted to know whether Jason Kidd has made the Mavs better or worse, I'd ask a Mav fan. Rare is the basketball fan who can watch every game of every team.

Obviously this is entirely true, but it also has nothing to do with what's going on here.

[whottt]

Spurs have 4 rings, Mavs have an empty trophy case. What's your point? Every fanbase has good fans and bad fans, knowledgeable fans that live and die with their team or hop on for the good times. What's your point?

My point is it's impossible for you to know what it feels like to see the team you follow win an NBA championship...to have seen all the pieces fall into place, the chemistry mix, the stars align, from a personal perspective that one can only have with their favorite baketball team.


You've never seen the team you pay the most attention to do it...so you can't know.


Just like I can't know what it's like to see my basketball team repeat...but I know what doesn't work...and that's going broke trying to repeat the regular season success...and there's a pretty clear trail of evidence that not taking the regular season as seriously is exactly the way to approach it.

[Indazone]

It's an even year. Follow the trend. Spurs don't win championships in even years.

[Brutalis]

You are so ing dense. I'll ask again--were you on the roster (or even, the coaching staff) for one of the Spurs le teams?

If not, your experience has been identical to mine, except you were rooting for a particular outcome. You haven't seen that I haven't seen. You haven't learned that I haven't learned.

Get it? What am I saying--of course you don't.

nobody does with him give up. save yourself.

[whottt]

You guys call me stupid all you want...

Meanwhile, ya'll are whining like school girls over regular season losses and I've got 100% of the factual evidence relevant to this argument on my side.


But by all means...keep venting, a woman needs to vent

Well some of them do...

[DubMcDub]

nobody does with him give up. save yourself.

Wise words. I think I'll take them to heart.

[Brutalis]

I left out the Bulls team that won less and 3 peated.


3 peat is a different animal...those teams had two seasons of going the distance.


But every first time champion tha repeated won less...not more. Won less.

100% of the first time champions(and I mean this in the sense of repeating) that repeated, won less. They were not as good in the regular season...


100% of them.


100% of them.



I have just a little evidence on my side VS your stance of the wetness of your vag...

Okay easy.

3peats are 2peats are 309450358peats. It don't ing matter. You think different then stay in your little box and don't come out. Rings are rings, repeated however many times.

And again you resort to personal remarks after a mental loss. It's okay, people do this to me a lot on Spurstalk. Scoreboard I say!

[Holt's Cat]

What did you think was going to happen after that loss?

A pure meltdown, of course. Instead we have Pig Sooey going introspective and babbling about why he doesn't have female companionship.

[Brutalis]

Actually, yeah. The way it appears is that you're lashing out at anyone who doesn't share you odd "I believe in this team, but they suck so I'm gonna have it both ways" rhetoric.

Flame me all you want, but I typically on lurk around. If I remember correctly, this is about the first time I've been posting in a while.

Well I disagree. I feel like I have every right to bring the Spurs issues to the table that need to be fixed more or less admitted to and if you or anyone thinks this team has no issues or is "fine", me thinks you are the one with issues right along side them.

[Findog]

My point is it's impossible for you to know what it feels like to see the team you follow win an NBA championship...to have seen all the pieces fall into place, the chemistry mix, the stars align, from a personal perspective that one can only have with their favorite baketball team.

Completely agree.

You've never seen the team you pay the most attention to do it...so you can't know.

Here is where you're wrong. You have more expertise on whether or not the Spurs have what it takes this year because you know their strengths and weaknesses better than I do, and you have to measure that against what you know of the other contenders. Whereas I know what the Mavs do well and what they don't, and I have to gauge how that stacks up against other teams. But we've both watched enough basketball in our lives to determine whether or not a team is championship-caliber or not. You only have to watch a couple Miami Heat games regardless of whether or not you're a fan to see that they stink.

The tone comes across as "your team hasn't won a le, so you can't possibly have the basketball IQ to recognize a le team when you see one." Being a Spurs fan is a stroke of good fortune, as is being a fan of the New England Patriots. You can't automatically transfer your teams accomplishments to back up your arguments.