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    Okay, smart ass. I wasn't asking you, but thanks.
    isn't this a public forum?

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    How did this "artist" make anyone realize how hypocritical they are?

    I could give a about his message, I either think he's a ty "artist" for thinking tying up a dog is art, or a sick for thinking torturing and killing a dog was art.

    Eh, gotta agree with that.

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    isn't this a public forum?

    OMGGGGG you're right. Please take back what I said, then.

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    How did this "artist" make anyone realize how hypocritical they are?
    He forced people to realize that the same dog they'd pass on the streets and not give two s about now evoked feelings of sadness and empathy.

    Now please explain how mentally ill Cho showed people they were hypocrites, or was that just more bull you felt you'd throw out there that couldn't be explained to try and make a meaningless correllation?

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    ART =



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    BRILLIANT!

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    OMGGGGG you're right. Please take back what I said, then.
    ??

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    He forced people to realize that the same dog they'd pass on the streets and not give two s about now evoked feelings of sadness and empathy.

    Now please explain how mentally ill Cho showed people they were hypocrites, or was that just more bull you felt you'd throw out there that couldn't be explained to try and make a meaningless correllation?

    My "sadness and empathy" was for the fact that that sick had him tied up to where the dog couldn't even fend for himself, and had no chance whatsoever of survival...that's torture and/or murder. That's not anywhere near the same, in my opinion, as the dog I don't give two s about on the street. The dog on the street would be tearing into my trash cans, no doubt. If he doesn't make it, that's Darwinism.

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    He forced people to realize that the same dog they'd pass on the streets and not give two s about now evoked feelings of sadness and empathy.
    In his own ed up idealogy he did. Not mine, and not the majority of people with half a ing brain.

    Please tell me how there's any correlation between a free dog walking the streets and a dog being tied up and forced to starve to death?

    Or is that just psuedo-intellectual bull that you think passes as some sort of real message?

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    My "sadness and empathy" was for the fact that that sick had him tied up to where the dog couldn't even fend for himself, and had no chance whatsoever of survival...that's torture and/or murder. That's not anywhere near the same, in my opinion, as the dog I don't give two s about on the street. The dog on the street would be tearing into my trash cans, no doubt. If he doesn't make it, that's Darwinism.

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    The purpose of the work was not to cause any type of infliction on the poor, innocent creature, but rather to illustrate a point. In my home city of San Jose, Costa Rica, tens of thousands of stray dogs starve and die of illness each year in the streets and no one pays them a second thought. Now, if you publicly display one of these starving creatures, such as the case with Nativity, it creates a backlash that brings out a big of hypocrisy in all of us

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    My "sadness and empathy" was for the fact that that sick had him tied up to where the dog couldn't even fend for himself, and had no chance whatsoever of survival...that's torture and/or murder.
    The dog wasn't tied up in the middle of the jungle being pestered by Tigers. The dog was in a gallery, I'm pretty sure he didn't have to protect himself from artsy onlookers. And it appears as if the dog was fed.

    I feel worse for animals in the zoo then I do for this dog. (If this dog was indeed fed and survived)

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    If he wants to show us what hypocrites we are, he do ents an actual stray dog living on the streets, and follows it around until it dies.

    He doesn't chain a dog up to a wall and make us all think that it's being forced to starve to death.

    This "artist" is a bong-water philosopher who doesn't know his head from his ass, end of story.

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    My "sadness and empathy" was for the fact that that sick had him tied up to where the dog couldn't even fend for himself, and had no chance whatsoever of survival...that's torture and/or murder. That's not anywhere near the same, in my opinion, as the dog I don't give two s about on the street. The dog on the street would be tearing into my trash cans, no doubt. If he doesn't make it, that's Darwinism.

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    if you publicly display one of these starving creatures
    yes, taking it out of it's natural environment and tying it up really sends a message about stray dogs out in the open.

    this dumb has no concept of the real world.

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    If he wants to show us what hypocrites we are, he do ents an actual stray dog living on the streets, and follows it around until it dies.
    That is not a bad idea, but he can get his point across faster by doing what he did.

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    If he wants to show us what hypocrites we are, he do ents an actual stray dog living on the streets, and follows it around until it dies.

    He doesn't chain a dog up to a wall and make us all think that it's being forced to starve to death.

    This "artist" is a bong-water philosopher who doesn't know his head from his ass, end of story.
    agreed.

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    The dog wasn't tied up in the middle of the jungle being pestered by Tigers. The dog was in a gallery, I'm pretty sure he didn't have to protect himself from artsy onlookers. And it appears as if the dog was fed.
    But we weren't supposed to know the dog was being fed ... otherwise there would have been no point at all.

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    I'm just glad he's only a moron, and not a sadistic asshole.

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    That is not a bad idea, but he can get his point across faster by doing what he did.
    So not only is he a , but he's a lazy as well.

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    In his own ed up idealogy he did. Not mine, and not the majority of people with half a ing brain.
    But if we're trying to determine whether or not this act would be considered art, wouldn't his ideology be a pretty important consideration?

    The audience only determines when a particular work of art is, or is not, successful, they don't determine when a particular work is even art.

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    But if we're trying to determine whether or not this act would be considered art, wouldn't his ideology be a pretty important consideration?

    The audience only determines when a particular work of art is, or is not, successful, they don't determine when a particular work is even art.
    if you want to call tying a dog to a wall art, you're en led to that opinion. I don't care if he had some sort of half-baked concept to go with it. IMO, it's not art, it's just stupidity.

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    But we weren't supposed to know the dog was being fed ... otherwise there would have been no point at all.
    I'm sure the people viewing it at the time had no idea it was being fed. And so what if we know now it was being fed.

    Vargas exhibit caused so much outcry that he succeeded in what he wanted to accomplish. His main point was to make people aware of the stray dog problem in Costa Rica. A few hundred thousand people signed a pe ion in protest of his exhibit. We are arguing about his exhibit on an American message board. We all know now that there are tens of thousand of stray dogs dying in Costa Rica each year, and some people may actually help these dogs. Bravo Vargas, mission accomplished.

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    if you want to call tying a dog to a wall art, be my guest. I don't care if he had some sort of half-baked concept to go with it. IMO, it's not art, it's just stupidity.
    I guess the problem I have is with the assumption that art and stupidity are mutually exclusive. They're not.

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    I'm going to chain a starving little boy from The Congo and display him in an art gallery so the world can see the hypocrisy in themselves.

    Oh, I'll feed the little er some peanuts twice a day so as not to kill him.

    I'll be the greatest artist of all time.

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    But if we're trying to determine whether or not this act would be considered art, wouldn't his ideology be a pretty important consideration?

    The audience only determines when a particular work of art is, or is not, successful, they don't determine when a particular work is even art.
    Absolutely. But only if it's sincere. That's why art is so subjective. If I don't feel the artist is sincere it ain't art. Art moves me and no one can argue that.

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