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    Had Quad Queens last night!!!

    Flopped a set, with two clubs, bet 1/2 pot, got one caller, thought he was flushing, so wanted to fade a club on turn. Turn was a blank, I bet 1/3 the pot, he calls. The river was a club, but the Qc . As I am reaching for my chips, Max asks me if I hit that river, he says that he will only call $40 bet maximum, so I bet $80. he calls(knew he would) and shows a the flush, I show my 4 queens and also collect a $50 bonus. (house pays that for any quads) Sweet!!!
    That paid off for you but it coulda burned you too. I'm wondering what the maximum you could've thrown into the pot for him to throw the draw away.

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    When "Show One Show All" is ignored. Yeah i know you can ask the dealer to turn them up, but usually the dealers are in such a hurry and/or they are sloppy as to listening to me when i say "Please show those". Its like i have to yell the moment the one guy shows the other guy. Anything short of immediate yelling and -poof- the cards are mucked.

    Do you guys just live with it or do you yell out Show One Show All? and/or do what it takes to get the dealer to flip em over
    I've also had a few dealers get snippy with me on this. I told them to ride the rhino. Most dealers are fine with it tho, as they should be.

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    My experience is that dealers are quick to muck hands, but they will sometimes dig them out if the know where they are or the person who was shown usually speaks up as to what he was shown and or the guy showing. More times than not they are telling the truth but you never know.

    I ask sometimes when I want to know, also when Im in a big hand and someone mucks on the river, i often ask to see the cards, this pisses some people off but any edge you can get into the brains of your opponents helps.

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    That paid off for you but it coulda burned you too. I'm wondering what the maximum you could've thrown into the pot for him to throw the draw away.
    Sometimes, I just want value and I bet enough to keep them in the pot, hoping that their draw misses, if club came on turn, then I would still have 10 outs to fill up and win anyway. In this case, I knew where I was and just tried to string him along. If there is already a big pot preflop, then I will just try to take the pot down on the flop. But in this case, I only bet $11 preflop with the queens and only had one caller, so I tried to get more money on flop and turn, which I did.

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    I don’t know much about poker, or gambling or women & stuff…But I always find it kind of creepy while I am watching ESPN Poker with Mother and a player turns over the right card & then fans start cheering like he scored a touchdown or made a slam dunk…Its like, get a life people!….

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    Im on a 6 session winning streak. A profit in all of my last 6 sessions. Im up around $2500. Since the world series has ended the games believe it or not have been so much softer. Ive had people go all in on me several times when Im holding the nuts, or calling my allins with top pair no kicker. Life is great at the moment.

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    Sitting at final table of 80 player tourney 4th in chips only 12 bb's remaining 8 players left

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    Chopped for $440

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    When "Show One Show All" is ignored. Yeah i know you can ask the dealer to turn them up, but usually the dealers are in such a hurry and/or they are sloppy as to listening to me when i say "Please show those". Its like i have to yell the moment the one guy shows the other guy. Anything short of immediate yelling and -poof- the cards are mucked.

    Do you guys just live with it or do you yell out Show One Show All? and/or do what it takes to get the dealer to flip em over
    I've also had a few dealers get snippy with me on this. I told them to ride the rhino. Most dealers are fine with it tho, as they should be.
    show one show all...baccarat

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    Nice work!

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    Played in 19 man and woman tourney on Sunday, $50 buy in with rebuys in first hour. Started with 2000 in chips and 25-50 blinds. Addon at break for another $50 if you want.

    I won!!! Heads up against this guy named Troy who is a good player. Heads up went back and forth for 30 mins. Blinds were 4000-2000. I was in BB with 7-8 spades. Troy goes all in for 16000, I had 32,000 left, if I lose, I still have 20,000 to play with. I call. He has Q 10, so I need to hit.

    I get 8 on river to win.

    Was this the correct call? No, but in heads up, sometimes, you just have to go with your gut. I had chips to lose, and still be in it, so I called and it paid off.


    First place- $640 not bad for a $100 entry

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    One of the games I play gives you $1000 if you get a straight flush.

    My friend had Q 10 spades and floped A K J spades....a Royal!!!

    He won the hand and got the 1 k bonus....nice.

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    I have yet to hit a Royal in live play, I'm long over due statistically.

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    I've lost a to a royal with a straight flush live before.

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    I have yet to hit a Royal in live play, I'm long over due statistically.
    I had one about 9 months ago. Had KQ clubs, flopped 10 J clubs, caught ace clubs on turn, another J came on river giving my opponent a full boat....got paid off for a hundy on river bet. Guy did not want to call with his 888JJ hand, especially after the dealer was taking pictures of the board with his camera phone, cuz somehown, he knew that I had the Royal. I almost killed him. LOL


    BTW, I looked up the odds for getting a Royal with two cards in your hand and statistally speaking, it says that if I played 5 days a week, 8 hours aday, it will take me another 21 years to get another one. The odds are like 2.2 million to one.

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    I've lost a to a royal with a straight flush live before.


    That blows.

    I lost to a higher straight flush before as well, I flopped the Nut flush, and turned the straight flush(one card played) and my opponent had the high end of the straight flush with one card as well. I would have been happier with just the nut flush.

    The irony here is that this was same opponent, Scott, that had the full house to my Royal Flush, so I guess we are even.

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    I had one about 9 months ago. Had KQ clubs, flopped 10 J clubs, caught ace clubs on turn, another J came on river giving my opponent a full boat....got paid off for a hundy on river bet. Guy did not want to call with his 888JJ hand, especially after the dealer was taking pictures of the board with his camera phone, cuz somehown, he knew that I had the Royal. I almost killed him. LOL


    BTW, I looked up the odds for getting a Royal with two cards in your hand and statistally speaking, it says that if I played 5 days a week, 8 hours aday, it will take me another 21 years to get another one. The odds are like 2.2 million to one.
    Heh.

    I was playing in a couple online tourneys about four months ago.... I hit two royal flushes within 8 hours of each other. I got called both times, the first time the guy had a flush, and the second I went in aggressive trying to make him think I was buying it, and caught him with two pair. I played all night and the first one happened around 12:30... the second came at 8:03 AM. I looked at the time because I wanted to remember that moment for the rest of my life.

    Never happened before or since. Blew me away both times.
    Last edited by Cry Havoc; 08-11-2009 at 02:37 PM.

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    Heh.

    I was playing in a couple online tourneys about four months ago.... I hit two royal flushes within 8 hours of each other. I got called both times, the first time the guy had a flush, and the second I went in aggressive trying to make him think I was buying it, and caught him with two pair. I played all night and the first one happened around 12:30... the second came at 8:03 AM. I looked at the time because I wanted to remember that moment for the rest of my life.

    Never happened before or since. Blew me away both times.
    Now you will have to wait 42 years for your next one.

    I had a king high straight flush online, also with clubs.

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    Played in a $125 buyin tourney with rebuys yesterday here in town. 30 players, three full tables. I bought in and never had to rebuy or add on at break, so was only in for the $125.

    Started with 15K in chips and 100-200 blinds, had great start got chip stack up to 37K in first 1 1/2 hour, then had QQ under the gun. The player two to my left was an aggressive preflop raiser who was not really getting any cards, so I limped in hoping he would raise. Blinds were 400-800. As hoped, he made it 2200, so I was going to re-raise, but player on button raises to 15K. Now, did he do this because he knew the the same thing I knew about the aggressive player or does he have me beat with a monster??? I go all in to isolate and get the first guy to fold, which he does, the raiser puts in his last 5k and shows AA. The flops has a Q. , but he hits runner runner hearts to make a flush. . Now I have 17K going into break.

    In first three hands after the break, I double up twice and win 12K in the 3rd hand to get my stack to 80K.

    I hit final table with over 250K and get 3rd place when I move all in against chip leader on button with J 9 d for 170K, he calls half his stack with A 10 and fllops an ace but I flop two diamonds, but miss, getting a pair of useless jacks on river.

    I win $600 for 3rd, 2nd place got $1000. In hindsight, I could have waited for a better spot to move all in, but blinds were 40-20 K and I had 4 BBs left, so had to try to either steal blinds or double up pretty quickly.

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    Nice hit.
    Shorthanded is such a crapshoot anyways. Nothing wrong with your play there.

    I havent played much in the past week only for 1 hour in cash games, left up $100, i've been busy packing and . This move is going to be stressful.

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    Live 100u 2/3 blinds
    Me just left of BB.
    Ah/3d
    No one raises.
    Flop 2h 4c 5s for a straight.
    BB checks, i check. Why? Because Fat Stack around the corner has been raising almost constantly, and because no flush draw there at all except runner runner.
    Fatso bets 10, next guy joins, 3rd guy joins, BB folds.
    Me: I only call. Again, why? I want to build the pot and because Fat Stack has shown himself to be an overly aggessive river chaser whose idiocy has been rewarded several times with 1-2 outer suck outs.
    Turn: 9c
    I check, knowing Fats will bet. He does, 10. I put him on flush draw. Next guy calls the 10, 3rd guy folds, I go 20. Why only 20? Two clubs and I'm telling you Fatso can and will chase. I started with 100, have 225 at the start of this hand and am bound and determined to go home up, and i want this to be my last hand. So, i reason, let him chase his flush, if he gets it i bail, kind of pissed that he hits but i would still go out of the hand with only about 40 in it (he might have gone out if i bet real big after the turn but again, i dont want to risk it, i saw him bet huge before on idiotic calls after the turn with he having only 1 out on the river). 3rd guy i put on a 6, so he is hanging around for the gutshot river 3 which would give him the higher straight. I figure he willnot chase enough to chase his gutshot, right?

    Well, Fatso calls my 20 and so does Gutshut.
    River 3d. No flush for Fatso.
    Fatso folds as i had him correctly chasing his flush.
    Gutshot hits his farking higher straight as he has 6/8 offsuit, no clubs.
    Gutshot bets 40 and i fold, telling him i know you hit your greasy 6 and sure enough he shows it.

    I knew all along i risked Gutshot hitting his 3 on the river to give him the higher straight 6 to 5, but i mean FARK!!! would you guys play this any differently.
    Pot of about 100 would have been mine had he not sucked out.

    I wanted him to chase his stupid one-two out river and the suck out hits it.

    "Better to win a small pot then lose a big one"? or would you play it just like i did and call Suckout a greasy spoon?

    Here is the weirdest part. On semi big hands like this, after the turn but before the River when I am 80% or better, on All Ins i am losing these 80% of the time. Is Tony Soprano and his punks running the camera and radioing down to the table because i find this extremely fishy to happen on an 80% basis, just on big pots.
    Last edited by Fabbs; 08-17-2009 at 11:22 AM.

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    why u mofos bother sittin 4-5 hrs just to win 600 or 2-3rd placing?

    that go put the principal on black and walk towards the exit if it dont land....


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    why u mofos bother sittin 4-5 hrs just to win 600 or 2-3rd placing?

    that go put the principal on black and walk towards the exit if it dont land....



    how is that fun?

    Besides, there is no casino gambling in Texas, we have to make do.

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    Live 100u 2/3 blinds
    Me just left of BB.
    Ah/3d
    No one raises.
    Flop 2h 4c 5s for a straight.
    BB checks, i check. Why? Because Fat Stack around the corner has been raising almost constantly, and because no flush draw there at all except runner runner.
    Fatso bets 10, next guy joins, 3rd guy joins, BB folds.
    Me: I only call. Again, why? I want to build the pot and because Fat Stack has shown himself to be an overly aggessive river chaser whose idiocy has been rewarded several times with 1-2 outer suck outs.
    Turn: 9c
    I check, knowing Fats will bet. He does, 10. I put him on flush draw. Next guy calls the 10, 3rd guy folds, I go 20. Why only 20? Two clubs and I'm telling you Fatso can and will chase. I started with 100, have 225 at the start of this hand and am bound and determined to go home up, and i want this to be my last hand. So, i reason, let him chase his flush, if he gets it i bail, kind of pissed that he hits but i would still go out of the hand with only about 40 in it (he might have gone out if i bet real big after the turn but again, i dont want to risk it, i saw him bet huge before on idiotic calls after the turn with he having only 1 out on the river). 3rd guy i put on a 6, so he is hanging around for the gutshot river 3 which would give him the higher straight. I figure he willnot chase enough to chase his gutshot, right?

    Well, Fatso calls my 20 and so does Gutshut.
    River 3d. No flush for Fatso.
    Fatso folds as i had him correctly chasing his flush.
    Gutshot hits his farking higher straight as he has 6/8 offsuit, no clubs.
    Gutshot bets 40 and i fold, telling him i know you hit your greasy 6 and sure enough he shows it.

    I knew all along i risked Gutshot hitting his 3 on the river to give him the higher straight 6 to 5, but i mean FARK!!! would you guys play this any differently.
    Pot of about 100 would have been mine had he not sucked out.

    I wanted him to chase his stupid one-two out river and the suck out hits it.

    "Better to win a small pot then lose a big one"? or would you play it just like i did and call Suckout a greasy spoon?

    Here is the weirdest part. On semi big hands like this, after the turn but before the River when I am 80% or better, on All Ins i am losing these 80% of the time. Is Tony Soprano and his punks running the camera and radioing down to the table because i find this extremely fishy to happen on an 80% basis, just on big pots.
    You played alright, but if you have someone looking to make a hand that can beat you, it's better to just get them out as early as possible. You weren't putting a lot of money in the pot, so it's not like you were pulling down a lot of cash from the guy with the 6, he was just hanging around for his card -- and got it. People will hang around all day if you let them and nab pots from you left and right. No poker player worth his salt is going to call a pot raise with a gutshot straight draw, especially not if he's got two people on the board raising against him.

    If you make that hand mano a mano with Loosey McChips to your left early on, you win and might take down quite a bit off him early when he's still thinking he'll land the flush.

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    You played alright, but if you have someone looking to make a hand that can beat you, it's better to just get them out as early as possible. You weren't putting a lot of money in the pot, so it's not like you were pulling down a lot of cash from the guy with the 6, he was just hanging around for his card -- and got it. People will hang around all day if you let them and nab pots from you left and right. No poker player worth his salt is going to call a pot raise with a gutshot straight draw, especially not if he's got two people on the board raising against him.

    If you make that hand mano a mano with Loosey McChips to your left early on, you win and might take down quite a bit off him early when he's still thinking he'll land the flush.
    CY,
    True, but if i raise big after the flop Loosey also might bail and i win 6 chips.
    But i do think i should have made my post turn raise (of their 10) 40 instead of 20.
    I think you are correct that Gunshot 6 bails after the turn if i make him pay 40. What you have to keep in mind tho, after the turn there were two clubs and i didnt want to get bbq'd by Loosey had he hit his club on the River.

    It was just an annoying hand, Gunshot sucked out and again this has happened far too often. Trust me i have bet big earlier, like all in KK vs AK with the flop having neither and Jerk Off Joe hitting runner runner JQ for the straight. Its bullcrap, and its happening to me far far more then the math says it will. Annoying.

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