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Whhhhhat??? When, How?
Man, the Spurs had a little bit of the spotlight and momentum to make a big trade, then this happens.
What a stupid, stupid trade for Dallas. Absolutely terrible trade. I don't know if it's collusion or complete corruption within the league to make the Lakers great again and boost the ratings, but I am sorry Dallas fans (I feel bad for you guys), I hope it backfires badly, and they win nothing and the Mavs front office are all fired over this. Obviously, it also goes without saying, hope it also completely backfires for the Lakers too. F both teams and the executives behind this trade. If it is collusion, I hope the ball doesn't lie, and that it all comes undone for both these teams and they are completely exposed.
Last edited by Ice009; 02-02-2025 at 02:53 PM.
Whhhhhat??? When, How?
The Mav trades helps spurs. We pretty much don’t have to give up any frp now. The market is set. Keldon Collins Tre and expiring frp from charlotte for fox.
Sure. It’s not either or. Im saying picks have dominated most trade packages though in terms of weighted value. But ya, Fox can be used in a trade but again it comes down to what SA has to give up. Give up too much and juice isn’t worth squeeze. Theres no magic formula its very hard being a real GM im sure lol
But bigger thing dating back to my original thoughts was there’s ZERO rush for guys like Fox IMO for teams like SA. That doesnt mean no or never or that its not a good idea to try, but theres always fringe all star types at a minimum via draft, FA or trade and theres always (lower percentage but still some) bigger fish that “unexpectedly” turn up too.
We are not financing other teams trades with our frps lol dumbass
I think it's a running joke...
Except we don't have the pull like the lakers.
Well, there is one rush in that up to half of your excess draft picks could be expiring this summer. So a decision needs to be made on trading those for a player, using them for a player, or punting them down the road. If you wait too long, you may be stuck with suboptimal outcomes.
There is also a lesson here about the relative value of draft picks. There is a reason why it takes so many of them to land guys like KD, Mitc , Bridges, Gobert, etc... it's because they aren't worth as much as quality players.
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Sure but that’s mostly a function of people trading for stars want to win now and pair them with win now players…..But the time is coming for SA next two seasons to ramp things up, but I still don’t think that means “you have to rush” either. But we are mostly in agreement I think overall
Yes, I think we're in agreement... just having a good discussion
What I mean by "there is a rush" in that some decisions will have to be made by June 25 when the draft takes place. We can make that decision now, based on the information we have available, or we get roll the dice and see what happens. If we do that, the results may be favorable (wow, we just landed Cooper Flagg!), or we may regret not trading the picks earlier (dang, we ended up with picks 9, 10 and 11 and tbh we don't really like most of these guys and the trade offers aren't that great). It's obviously impossible to know now where that value will land, but we can make some good estimates of Expected Value based on odds.
No matter what happens, we'll have to make a decision. Between now and then we'll have to trade those picks or make those picks, and after that date we will have either 25% or 50% (I no longer count the CHA pick) fewer excess first round draft picks in our war chest unless we trade them for future picks down the road (which is always an option).
I don't think we have the luxury of waiting as much as we think, unless our FO has decided that using picks or trading them down the road for future picks is what they actually prefer to do, which is entirely possible. But, if the picks were acquired with the thought of using as trade chips for another star player... we are on the clock.
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Bro you're reading tweets all day. You're not in the "know." You're just guessing like everyone else but truly believe you're on the "in" more than others.
You're just a fan.
Believe it or not, never had a twitter account.
Who said I was?You're not in the "know."
I'm not guessing, I'm try to make logical conclusions based on what's going around the league.You're just guessing like everyone else but truly believe you're on the "in" more than others.
I don't read twitter all day, I watch games every single night I'm at home. Not just the Spurs.
And if you actually watch games, you see how's team chemistry everywhere etc.
You're making your entire argument based on an outlier that happens once every few decades.
Sure theres some of that to be sure - but even if we land 8,9 and 11 one of those guys can be an all star too. And SA would still have tons of picks to use next year etc..But ya, I was ever anti Fox as a catch all - plenty of reasons to go for it now. Would love to see it happen and will react based on the package I see. 2.5 firsts and no Castle and Im good with itYes, I think we're in agreement... just having a good discussion
What I mean by "there is a rush" in that some decisions will have to be made by June 25 when the draft takes place. We can make that decision now, based on the information we have available, or we get roll the dice and see what happens. If we do that, the results may be favorable (wow, we just landed Cooper Flagg!), or we may regret not trading the picks earlier (dang, we ended up with picks 9, 10 and 11 and tbh we don't really like most of these guys and the trade offers aren't that great). It's obviously impossible to know now where that value will land, but we can make some good estimates of Expected Value based on odds.
No matter what happens, we'll have to make a decision. Between now and then we'll have to trade those picks or make those picks, and after that date we will have either 25% or 50% (I no longer count the CHA pick) fewer excess first round draft picks in our war chest unless we trade them for future picks down the road (which is always an option).
I don't think we have the luxury of waiting as much as we think, unless our FO has decided that using picks or trading them down the road for future picks is what they actually prefer to do, which is entirely possible. But, if the picks were acquired with the thought of using as trade chips for another star player... we are on the clock.
This did Spurs a massive favor though. Weakens divisional opponent at same time Wemby should be entire core prime while helping the pick swap gain some value on paper. Spurs have a lot of work to do, but Lakers have been mostly incompetent and Mavs had already built a contender with Luka so anytime you can break one up and weaken a divisional opponent its good news.
All of these timvp is dead rumours has me thinking maybe one of us could masquerade as a “Spurs insider” and claim Wemby wants out if we don’t get him some help soon? Could push PATFO to actually go to work.
Yep, one of those guys could be an all-star. Or they could be complete busts. That's true of any pick of course. That's just a part of the risk and uncertainty. LIke you mentioned early, being a GM is hard - in large part because you have to make these monumental bets on outcomes that are outside of your control and no one has the ability to predict with any degree of certainty. That's kind of what makes sports fun though, right?
It's helping Dusty Garza get massive engagement on Twitter. Casual Spurs fans are easy to bait. Just get an AI avatar, recycle "inside info" you hear from others to build a reputation, and then you can say like "Fan favorite Keldon Johnson is rumored to be on the block" and you'll generate massive amounts of clicks.
So easy, even a con like Dusty can do it.
The true puppet master. This guy looks trustworthy.
Exactly
I mean we know when GMS do something stupid. It’s much harder to tell when they do something good.
Nico Harrison reading this wondering which camps he's inExactly
I mean we know when GMS do something stupid. It’s much harder to tell when they do something good.
One thing I will support in this whole Luka/AD situation is both parties actually operated like men and didn’t pillow talk with the media till this trade went down. That never happens these days.
They didn't talk with the media because they didn't know until it happened.
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