The World Cup thread!

[MaNuMaNiAc]

That's why Mexicans don't even care to try their luck in Europe... people like Hugo Sanchez were bench warmers in Europe before someone finally gave him an opportunity to play... His previous coach was then exposed as a racist fool.

! yeah... that's why

[Lady M]

on a gagné on a gagné
France Beat Spain and Zizou can play an other game

[MaNuMaNiAc]

on a gagné on a gagné
France Beat Spain and Zizou can play an other game

yeah... his last. Brasil is going to walk all over France. This isn't 1998 France, and that isn't 1998 Brasil. I predict a 3-0 spanking to make up for 1998.

[Spurologist]

on a gagné on a gagné
France Beat Spain and Zizou can play an other game

Allez les Blues.

Contre Brasil?? Je ne sais pas.

[scott]

I hope you Argentinians enjoyed the ride... it ends Friday.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I hope you Argentinians enjoyed the ride... it ends Friday.

could very well be... by the way, I hope you've saved your ape e my friend, because us Argies serve a mean crow.

Enjoy!

[Phenomanul]

! yeah... that's why

What's that supposed to mean??? Where's your supposed 'newfound respect' for Mexican fútbol? Same ol' arrogance, typical dismissiveness.

Mexico's squad held their ground against a combination of your 'superstars'...

Riquelme
Saviola
Crespo
Tevez
Messi

And you very well know that Mexico played with only 1 european starter.... the rest from the national league - where they get paid well.

Sure, we all know that Mexico is not the talent powerhouse equivalent of countries like Brazil or Argentina but that's not to say Mexicans can't play at their level...

I know Mexico's soccer history and I could give you the name of every Mexican that tried their fortune in Europe... they always came back complaining of stagnation on the bench... better to play and than not play all.

Unlike most Argentineans playing abroad... Most Mexican players aren't what you would consider 'white'... historically that has been a problem for some of the European sides...

[MaNuMaNiAc]

What's that supposed to mean??? Where's your supposed 'newfound respect' for Mexican fútbol? Same ol' arrogance, typical dismissiveness.

Mexico's squad held their ground against a combination of your 'superstars'...

Riquelme
Saviola
Crespo
Tevez
Messi

And you very well know that Mexico played with only 1 european starter.... the rest from the national league - where they get paid well.

Sure, we all know that Mexico is not the talent powerhouse equivalent of countries like Brazil or Argentina but that's not to say Mexicans can't play at their level...

I know Mexico's soccer history and I could give you the name of every Mexican that tried their fortune in Europe... they always came back complaining of stagnation on the bench... better to play and than not play all.

Unlike most Argentineans playing abroad... Most Mexican players aren't what you would consider 'white'... historically that has been a problem for some of the European sides...

Geez calm down man! that is not what I meant. you claimed Mexican players did not want to go to European leagues because of the racism, and I called bull . Not because Mexicans don't have the talent (which interestingly is what you assumed I meant, I wonder why? insecure, anyone?), but because the pay is good enough in Mexico that I suppose there's no need to go to Europe.

However, I don't buy into that. I think any Mexican player good enough to play in Europe would give their left nut to play in some of the more prestigious clubs in Europe than any club in Mexico.

[scott]

could very well be... by the way, I hope you've saved your ape e my friend, because us Argies serve a mean crow.

Enjoy!

Do I smell an avitar bet?

Deutschland wins, you fly the German flag in your avitar for a week, and vice versa?

[Phenomanul]

Geez calm down man! that is not what I meant. you claimed Mexican players did not want to go to European leagues because of the racism, and I called bull . Not because Mexicans don't have the talent (which interestingly is what you assumed I meant, I wonder why? insecure, anyone?), but because the pay is good enough in Mexico that I suppose there's no need to go to Europe.

However, I don't buy into that. I think any Mexican player good enough to play in Europe would give their left nut to play in some of the more prestigious clubs in Europe than any club in Mexico.

Yes but how many Ronaldinho's or Ronaldo's are there? They come but a few per generation. And in the case of Mexico, the Hugo Sanchez' the Rafael Marquez' don't come around but every 20 years or so... Blanco for example had the talent to play in Europe... he instead rotted on a Spanish bench, so rather than endure stagnation, and the humiliation of incessantly being labeled an 'indio' he came back to Mexico...

Why does Borgetti sit on the bench of Bolton in England??


Several Mexican players are on par with many of their European counterparts... but against them they know they wouldn't get playing time. So they stay in the comfort of their home in Mexico.

[Spurologist]

Do I smell an avitar bet?

Deutschland wins, you fly the German flag in your avitar for a week, and vice versa?

it sounds like a deal.

vs.

[scott]

Alright, whoever wants in on this bet - make it known here.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Alright, whoever wants in on this bet - make it known here.

no problem

[Gerryatrics]

Ugh, Spain vs. France was such a let down. On the plus side, my fantasy team won Prize 4 in my league. Woot!

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Yes but how many Ronaldinho's or Ronaldo's are there? They come but a few per generation. And in the case of Mexico, the Hugo Sanchez' the Rafael Marquez' don't come around but every 20 years or so... Blanco for example had the talent to play in Europe... he instead rotted on a Spanish bench, so rather than endure stagnation, and the humiliation of incessantly being labeled an 'indio' he came back to Mexico...

Why does Borgetti sit on the bench of Bolton in England??


Several Mexican players are on par with many of their European counterparts... but against them they know they wouldn't get playing time. So they stay in the comfort of their home in Mexico.

thats rich! so what you're telling me is that the only reason why Mexican players don't succeed in Europe is because they are discriminated against for being dark skinned? give me a ing break! Brasilian's are dark skinned, what about them? Africans are dark skinned, and although they endure racism, they still thrive when it comes to actual playing.

I have a new respect for Mexico, that is true, but that does not mean they are superstar material simply because they managed to give Argentina a run for its money on one game.

In fact, I remember you accusing us Argentinians of not taking players from the Mexican league for our national team because somehow, we had something against Mexicans. I can see a pattern

[Texas_Ranger]

Zidane ise the best.

[PaceMonster]

^^what world cup are u watching...this is the only good play ive seen him make

[rascal]

If we follow the regulations (is this the correct word?) of soccer, yes, it's foul. However if i were an australian i got anger.. I think the referee give us the penalty because expelled Materazzi (and it wasn't a red card fou


However italy isn't overrated, this is simply our "Modus operandi": the our force is don't let the other teams playing well, if you look, no one team played well against us: how many shoot australia did? One, or 2. For us is better playing against better team, but this isn't mean that we will win. No... simply we can beat any team, and we can lose with any team

sorry for my BAD BAD BAD english

Keep reading and posting and you will get better. Your main points are understandable. Your English isn't too bad.

[rascal]

I've picked all the winners and one correct score.

Good picks.

[austinfan]

^^what world cup are u watching...this is the only good play ive seen him make

Tell me about. I am starting to hate Adriano with a passion. If Parreira starts him again for the France game, then Brazil can kiss the Cup goodbye.

[ALVAREZ6]

I'll be in one the bet, but I'm leaving for more than 2 weeks to Argentina on the day of the game.



Right after the game, we are leaving for NYC to fly to Buenos Aires. Hopefully, we can win because it would be ing awesome arriving in Buenos Aires just in time.

[nkdlunch]

The world cup final is gonna be played early betwen Argentina vs. Germany.

that sucks

I have a feeling Riquelme is gonna step up...

[Phenomanul]

thats rich! so what you're telling me is that the only reason why Mexican players don't succeed in Europe is because they are discriminated against for being dark skinned? give me a ing break! Brasilian's are dark skinned, what about them? Africans are dark skinned, and although they endure racism, they still thrive when it comes to actual playing.

Speaking of assuming, how about you lose the bolded assumption....

1) African nations don't have developed leagues... Europe is their only option.
2) The Brazilian league doesn't pay well... Brazilian star players therefore have a clear goal of playing in Europe... Mexicans don't (at least not from the start) plus let's not forget the fact that Brasilians are more talented than anyone else.

Apples and Oranges...

I have a new respect for Mexico, that is true, but that does not mean they are superstar material simply because they managed to give Argentina a run for its money on one game.

Contradiction anyone??? You can't say you respect Mexican fútbol and then turnaround (much like your fellow countryman LaVolpe) and say Mexico does not have star talent. It's either one or the other you can't have it both ways... Your superstars did nothing against Mexico... absolutely nothing... it took a miraculous goal by Maxi to bail you all out... Our defenders constantly stole the ball from your midfielders and strikers and made it look easy...

And it's not one game... Mexico has fared much better against the top-ranked teams the last 10 years or so... it's an ongoing process.

In fact, I remember you accusing us Argentinians of not taking players from the Mexican league for our national team because somehow, we had something against Mexicans. I can see a pattern

With regards to your this comment, I believe el 'Chelito' Delgado and Walter Gaitan are both better than Cambiasso. But they get less consideration because they don't play in Europe or in your league.... and much of that stems from the lack of exposure of the Mexican league with the Argentinean public... In the end though, it's Pekerman's decision... not the people's... whatever...

[danyel]

and much of that stems from the lack of exposure of the Mexican league with the Argentinean public

I don't believe thats true, we do get Mexican league games live weekly by Fox Sports.

[Phenomanul]

I don't believe thats true, we do get Mexican league games live weekly by Fox Sports.

Is that a public channel, or based on economics, is it only available to the middle-to-high class families???

Plus exposure doesn't mean watching a game here or there... Argentineans as a whole don't follow Mexican fútbol... it would be a lie if you all claimed that they did.