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    I just wish it was a swim meet and Josh said "I don't do no swimmin cuz I'm black", nobody would give a about any of this.
    Hahah, that's a joke but that is also kinda true...I didn't learn to swim until my late 20's. I almost drowned twice in my life.

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    If you don't think Obama represents the black people of America, I don't know what else to say.
    How does Obama represent all black Americans? That's the craziest thing I've ever heard.

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    How does Obama represent all black Americans? That's the craziest thing I've ever heard.
    If Obama wins the presidency, what will be the first thing written about him in the history books? No matter what Obama does in office, there will be 1 sure fire line about him in the history books.

    The day Obama wins the presidency, what line will EVERY newspaper have in common.

    What would be that line?

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    If you don't think Obama represents the black people of America, I don't know what else to say.


    There's nothing wrong with that. He took advantage of the benefits of the system...so why is he now dissing that same system? It worked rather great for him.


    Yes, he wouldn't fit in, he's not African except from the gene pool. He's black but he's also American. The Star Spangled banner represents America, it's not the white people anthem, it's the American anthem.

    If he wants to diss his country's anthem, sure go ahead but don't say it's because he's black because that has nothing to do with it. Saying you don't sing the anthem makes you sound un-patriotic which is whatever, but saying it's because you're black is just ignorant.
    Rev. Wright doesn't and his views didn't represent Obama, according to Obama, same thing.

    What's ignorant is him not giving an explanation for why he said, "Black", in regards to his explanation.

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    If Obama wins the presidency, what will be the first thing written about him in the history books? No matter what Obama does in office, there will be 1 sure fire line about him in the history books.

    The day Obama wins the presidency, what line will EVERY newspaper have in common.

    What would be that line?
    If you let the media determine what's real and what isn't, what's important and what isn't, then you have already lost.

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    Rev. Wright doesn't and his views didn't represent Obama, according to Obama, same thing.

    What's ignorant is him not giving an explanation for why he said, "Black", in regards to his explanation.
    Rev Wright is in the minority, for the majority, yes Obama represents the US black race.

    If Obama wins the presidency, what will be the first thing written about him in the history books? No matter what Obama does in office, there will be 1 sure fire line about him in the history books.

    The day Obama wins the presidency, what line will EVERY newspaper have in common.

    What would be that line?

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    If you let the media determine what's real and what isn't, what's important and what isn't, then you have already lost.
    That's a cop-out an you know it. This is getting into semantics.

    Answer the question.

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    Rev Wright is in the minority, for the majority, yes Obama represents the US black race.
    If he represents the majority and there is a minority, how can he represent all? This makes zero sense.

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    If Obama wins the presidency, what will be the first thing written about him in the history books? No matter what Obama does in office, there will be 1 sure fire line about him in the history books.

    The day Obama wins the presidency, what line will EVERY newspaper have in common.

    What would be that line?
    Alright, i'll answer it now. I don't know. Also, you don't either. You can assume, but assumptions prove nothing.

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    If he represents the majority and there is a minority, how can he represent all? This makes zero sense.
    I never said every single black person. I said the black people...and when you speak of a people, you speak of the majority, not the minority.

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    Alright, i'll answer it now. I don't know. Also, you don't either. You can assume, but assumptions prove nothing.
    You don't know or you don't wish to answer?

    You gotta be kidding me if you don't know that answer. Even a kid in grammar school can give you this answer if Obama becomes president.

    You and I both know what Obama will be known for above all else if he becomes president unless he does something truly great like solve poverty or hunger.

    I can see by this "I don't know" answer you will not be reasonable as some of the posters are, I don't see a point in arguing with you anymore.

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    I never said every single black person. I said the black people...and when you speak of a people, you speak of the majority, not the minority.
    The statement, "The Black People", does not separate, the black people, whatsoever. If you don't separate them, they are together, therefore, it's all.

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    You don't know or you don't wish to answer?

    You gotta be kidding me if you don't know that answer. Even a kid in grammar school can give you this answer if Obama becomes president.

    You and I both know what Obama will be known for above all else if he becomes president unless he does something truly great like solve poverty or hunger.

    I can see by this "I don't know" answer you will not be reasonable as some of the posters are, I don't see a point in arguing with you anymore.
    What are you trying to imply? That way I can address it properly. I don't like to assume that much, especially in matters of seriousness such as these.

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    What are you trying to imply? That way I can address it properly. I don't like to assume that much, especially in matters of seriousness such as these.
    Even a kid knows what Obama will be if he wins the elections, I know you're not that stupid.

    Somebody had PM'ed me saying that it was pointless debating with you because you'll never admit it when you are wrong. Now I see they were right.

    I'm done.

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    Even a kid knows what Obama will be if he wins the elections, I know you're not that stupid.

    Somebody had PM'ed me saying that it was pointless debating with you because you'll never admit it when you are wrong. Now I see they were right.

    I'm done.
    Whatever floats your boat, good day sir.

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    where the did Gino go with his wonderful insight?

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    The day Obama wins the presidency, what line will EVERY newspaper have in common.
    Dead Man Walking?

    no, that's just in the South. And Boston (go Gino!)

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    I thought Obama represented the Democrats?

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    Dead Man Walking?
    Yes, that's probably true, unfortunately.

    I thought Obama represented the Democrats?
    Why did you say he'd be "Dead Man Walking"? Cuz he's a Democrat?

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    Why did you say he'd be "Dead Man Walking"?
    Cuz Josh Howard told us that Obama doesn't celebrate the National Anthem n .

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    I didn't see this posted.

    Ron Artest on the Josh Howard Fiasco
    by Marcel Mutoni

    What? You were expecting someone else?

    Naturally, the first athlete to publicly acknowledge L’affaire Josh was Ron Artest, a man who has never been afraid to tackle race relations head on.

    The Sacramento Bee emailed Artest about the controversy, and below is his measured response.

    “I think josh howards comment is a reflection on education. I think the schools need to teach deeper in the history classes and make the students aware of racism but also teach them that all people are not bad.

    “I can relate to not feeling wanted by my own country at times but as I dug deeper I realized that America is divided and we need leaders to bring America closer together. An example where I felt unwanted by my country was when I didn’t get a chance to tryout for my national team. I believed it was because my history. I hope he overcomes this. Family 1st”


    I’m not sure what Ron means with the “Family 1st” thing, but his response is interesting nonetheless. Always warms my heart when Mr. Artest proves to be the voice of reason in what is quickly turning into a predictably ugly debate.

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    Cuz Josh Howard told us that Obama doesn't celebrate the National Anthem n .
    Josh Howard didn't say that (as far as I know)..nobody can figure out what he said about Obama. That is why you said Obama would be "Dead Man Walking"?

    I’m not sure what Ron means with the “Family 1st” thing, but his response is interesting nonetheless. Always warms my heart when Mr. Artest proves to be the voice of reason in what is quickly turning into a predictably ugly debate.
    Thanks for the article Duncan228, I have not seen it.

    He would have been great on the Olympic team, I think Ron knows how to behave when surrounded by people he respects.

    I like Artest and even though he's been boneheaded at times, he doesn't blame it on being black, he blames it on Ron Artest being Ron Artest.
    Last edited by Allanon; 09-18-2008 at 07:55 PM.

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    NBA to go light on Josh Howard

    Apparently, Josh Howard's latest brush with controversy won't cost him cash. More importantly, it won't cost him any games.

    An official from the NBA said the league is not likely to take any action against Howard for showing disrespect to The Star Spangled Banner.

    The spokesman cited previous incidents involving Charlie Ward and Allen Iverson, who both made controversial statements and received no repercussions.

    When you think about it, that's probably the prudent move by the league. When you start legislating against freedom of speech, you're treading on ground that is almost certain to bring up a legal discussion.

    Besides, the league could have plenty of other reasons to dip into Howard's bank account with his summer street racing and last season's admission of marijuana use.

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    Mark Cuban tries spin control for Josh Howard (again)

    Gotta give Mark Cuban credit for publicly having Josh Howard's back, even if Cuban's take on J-Ho's latest bonehead incident makes absolutely no sense.

    Owner Mark Cuban said the Mavericks dealt with Howard's flag football episode after it happened in July.

    "That said, we will be going through some advanced communication-skill sessions together this training camp," Cuban said Tuesday. "I have explained to him that cellphone cameras are not your friend and that what you think you said on camera is never what people will hear when it shows up on YouTube or TV.

    "There is only one universal response that works: 'Both teams played hard.'"

    What exactly did Howard think he was saying when he looked into the camera and came up with this doozy? "'The Star-Spangled Banner' is going on. I don't celebrate this [expletive]. I'm black."

    So the solution is apparently advising Howard to give nothing but boring, bland quotes, which is what he has been delivering in the Mavs' locker room on a regular basis anyway.

    The Mavs' PR folks will have their hands full trying to fix J-Ho's image, but they can't help him if he doesn't grow up fast.

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    Thanks for the article Duncan228, I have not seen it.
    I was hesitant to interrupt with info on the original topic.

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