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    No, it's just the truth. If you can't have a discussion without getting sand in your vagina then don't bother to copy the points other people make and let them draw the fire.


    Okay, then let's hear about why he's incapable of playing defense as well as the corpse of Rasho, Matt Bonner or a big Polish guy we've seen play for about three games. You're obviously ignoring his stats in favor of some vague impression you've divined. A source of this revelation would be fun for all of us.


    Evidence of that, please. Since you state it like it's a fact then it should be really easy to back up.


    Again, I'm waiting for evidence that Gooden's ever been a locker-room cancer, has put his own stats above team success, has been the sole reason a team went from being decent to being terrible, whines about his contract or calls a timeout so he can get a triple double. The worst thing I can say about him during his time as a Spur is that he tried too hard to score, which isn't really a sin given this coach and the offensive talent they rolled out alongside him.

    If nothing else, I'd be satisfied if you could list the 12 point, 8 rebound, 1 block per game bigs the Spurs have available to sign that have playoff experience and have stated publicly that they want to be in San Antonio long-term.
    He will get better on D. With him we wont have a dropoff in post production. I say they sign him and get A cheap banger for spot minutes and hope mahinmi is worth the jersey he'll be wearing.

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    Gortat simply fits better for us..he plays very good 1 on 1 defense, and he blocks shots, so he's the whole defensive package we need down low..he played great defense against both Gasol and Bynum in the Finals..

    we don't need another scorer down low, we need a guy that can play defense at this point..
    He also finishes at the rim. He can get you A few points also. He also has damn good hands and will dunk the damn ball with authority. Quick at that to.

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    He will get better on D. With him we wont have a dropoff in post production. I say they sign him and get A cheap banger for spot minutes and hope mahinmi is worth the jersey he'll be wearing.
    You are aware I was talking about Gooden, yes? I think Gortat might be a perfect fit, but I'm not in any way convinced that he's any kind of step up from Drew for the same money, and he's going to be much trickier to acquire.

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    Otis Smith already came out and said resigning Hedo is going to be next to impossible for them, so he is going to walk. As previously stated they traded away some frontcourt depth in Battie...I see Gortat staying in Orlando unless Sheed signs there.

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    There is a rumour thata Magic would go after Sheed and Bass. So if they get one of them, Spurs can offer 3mln to Gortat and sign him

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    That's the positive..if Orlando gets 'Sheed, we have a great chance at Gortat..

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    Orlando getting Sheed after Carter's big contract when they already have Dwight and Lewis =

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    Orlando getting Sheed after Carter's big contract when they already have Dwight and Lewis =
    Don't laugh

    As of today:

    Spurs for 9 players including Finley: 71.2M
    Spurs for 8 players w/o Finley:68.7M

    Orlando after VC trade, 8 players: 68.5M

    Orlando is coming off a run to the Finals with all the extra revenue that brings and they move into a new downtown arena in 2010.

    They are every bit as capable as the Spurs are to offer Sheed the full MLE.

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    Don't laugh

    As of today:

    Spurs for 9 players including Finley: 71.2M
    Spurs for 8 players w/o Finley:68.7M

    Orlando after VC trade, 8 players: 68.5M

    Orlando is coming off a run to the Finals with all the extra revenue that brings and they move into a new downtown arena in 2010.

    They are every bit as capable as the Spurs are to offer Sheed the full MLE.

    Does that Magic 8 assume Hedo and Gortat resigning?

    If not, then assuming they pay for Hedo that figure will certainly exceed out 71.2M.

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    The rumor is that they got Vince because Hedo wanted too much $ and they weren't willing to pay that much..so especially with the trade, it looks like Hedo won't be playing for Orlando this year..

    Rasheed Wallace's decision comes down to preference, not $..

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    I don't think Hedo's going back to Orlando. My guess is that Orlando is thinking they can get Sheed and keep Gortat for the same money they would have to spend on Hedo.

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    Does that Magic 8 assume Hedo and Gortat resigning?

    If not, then assuming they pay for Hedo that figure will certainly exceed out 71.2M.

    I believe that they have already decided to let Hedo walk and will only keep Gortat if they can't sign Wallace.

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    Interesting update, thanks. I was not aware of the rumor. Last I read the Magic announced they where willing to go into Lux Tax territory to resign him. This could put a wrinkle in the plan, but I agree with Harlem's observation above about preference.

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    Interesting update, thanks. I was not aware of the rumor. Last I read the Magic announced they where willing to go into Lux Tax territory to resign him. This could put a wrinkle in the plan, but I agree with Harlem's observation above about preference.
    I agree that Sheed's decision will be about his preferences, the money should be about the same. One factor that I think tips the scales in the Spurs favor is Pop. Sheed had great relationships with Dean Smith and Larry Brown. Pop comes from that coaching tree. If all other factors are close, I think Sheed would choose Pop over SVG.

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    I honestly think the Magic will end up missing out on all three of them.
    I believe Wallace will sign with the Spurs, I don't think they will want to negotiate with Hedo the kind of contract he wants, and it is said that after Wallace they will go after Bass, and I think by that time, Gortat will have found another team who believes in him.

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    I honestly think the Magic will end up missing out on all three of them.
    I believe Wallace will sign with the Spurs, I don't think they will want to negotiate with Hedo the kind of contract he wants, and it is said that after Wallace they will go after Bass, and I think by that time, Gortat will have found another team who believes in him.
    Gortat is a RFA. If they swing and miss on Wallace, they can always match an offer sheet on Gortat.

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    I honestly think the Magic will end up missing out on all three of them.
    I believe Wallace will sign with the Spurs, I don't think they will want to negotiate with Hedo the kind of contract he wants, and it is said that after Wallace they will go after Bass, and I think by that time, Gortat will have found another team who believes in him.
    Gortat's restricted, so the Magic can wait until the very last minute to decide whether or not to match any offer he receives. That gives them the opportunity to negotiate with every free agent they choose during that time with no risk of losing Gortat.

    On the other hand, any team that wants to make Gortat an offer ties up their money until Orlando either matches or doesn't, and they wouldn't match immediately under any cir stances I can think of.

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    Damn, could've sworn he was UFA.

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    Don't they have 7 days to decide whether or not to match after Gortat signs an offer sheet?

    Don't forget the Gortat could also head overseas for more cash if he so desired. I think he has already mentioned it.

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    Don't they have 7 days to decide whether or not to match after Gortat signs an offer sheet?

    Don't forget the Gortat could also head overseas for more cash if he so desired. I think he has already mentioned it.
    Yeah, they have seven days to match, but they can wait until there's one minute left in the seven days to do it, and the team that made the QO has their money tied up during the entire free-agent period while all the other free agents find new teams.

    Gortat's got some chances to start in the NBA. If he pisses that away for a little more money overseas then he's not the player I thought he was anyway.

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    The rumor is that they got Vince because Hedo wanted too much $ and they weren't willing to pay that much..so especially with the trade, it looks like Hedo won't be playing for Orlando this year.
    So they did not want to pay Hedo $10M so instead they are paying Carter $16M?

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    Morey Kicks Off Free Agency With Gortat Tweet
    Daryl Morey kicked off the 2010 free agency with a Tweet just minutes before midnight announcing that he is set to meet with Marcin Gortat. "Meeting in a few w/ Gortat," wrote the Rockets general manager. "Send a note to him NOW at [email protected]. He will receive. Show him how much we want him in Red!"

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    Dude's got to explore his options.

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    I hope the rockets throw a butt load of $ at this guy..Between Yao and a possible bust in Gortat, the rockets would be hurting for years..

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    I could see him going to Houston with Yao being out.

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