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In no way should Lorbek recieve anything more than LLE. In my opinion Splitter was the more hyped younger Euro coming to the NBA so his contract should set the precedent for Lorbek.
Well, he is just relaying what his sources are telling him. After that, it's up to you to speculate about it.
I can see 3 realistic scenarios:
1) Givony's sources are wrong and Spurs aren't that close of getting Lorbek.
2) Lorbek is Spurs first target with the MLE.
3) Lorbek is fine with a LLE contract.
In no way should Lorbek recieve anything more than LLE. In my opinion Splitter was the more hyped younger Euro coming to the NBA so his contract should set the precedent for Lorbek.
Spurs should have drafted that Printezis guy.
oh, they did.
history wrote an interesting story for that pick. Spurs turn Printezis into the pick that lands us Dragic, who lands us the pick that lands us Blair. story shouldn't be finished yet. let's speculate that upcoming draft Blair lands us a pick that lands us...no idea, but it will happen.
Soft as the womb of a marshmallow mermaid. Defensive sieve. The Spurs need to start rebuilding soon, so this is a good acquisition for a tanking season.
It's all part of RC's plan to replace Tim Duncan by turning the #58 pick from the 2007 draft into the #1 pick in the 2015 draft.
The BAE (LLE), no longer exists in the '11 CBA. Given Duncan's age, no way the Spurs pass on Diaw and Lorbek.
There are new limits on the use of the BAE, but it does exist under the new CBA.
It'll be very difficult to sign both.
Duncan deserves the 10 million + hes getting his way and depending on how Green performs he may be in for a 4-5 million per year salary.
That doesn't leave much to work with for both Diaw AND Lorbek.
I can gurantee you that Green will not get 4-5 mil from the spurs..Cannot see the spurs going over the 3 mil offer.
I agree with yavozerb.
We thought Splitter would get the full MLE and in the end we got him for 3y/11m. That's the most money i see San Antonio offering Green.
If he doesn't like the offer and doesn't get a contract he likes in the off-season, he simply takes the QO and play 1 more year with us.
If he gets the full MLE from a dumb team, i'd say we should just let him go. He isn't worth it.
I agree, 3 million would be ideal. But that still doesn't leave much room for Lorbek and Diaw.
If Duncan gets 10 million and Green gets 3, we're looking at 63 million spent. Since we'll be over the cap, we just have our MLE to work with. With that figure being below the tax, we have 5 million to work with for both Diaw and Lorbek.
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We'd have the LLE or whatever it is now called too, but it likely won't be enough for Lorbek. Might just fit de Colo in it, though.
What are the chances the Spurs get rid of both Blair/Bonner to free up cap space for Lorbek, is that possible?
Blair getting 0 playing time in these playoffs both this and last year, and Bonner continuing to disappear year after year, I wouldn't be surprised if they're gone this off season. I could definitely see Blair requesting a trade.
What does Lorbek bring that Bonner doesn't and vice versa Bonner bring that Lorbek doesn't? Post ups? Defense? Rebounding? Other?
Lorbek is a much better post player than Bonner is, he can shoot threes, probably not as good as Matt, but solid. On defense Lorbek can play good, but this year Bonner wasn't really that bad so I can't say who's better and rebounding is pretty much the same, I'd say Lorbek would get more rebounds, but he can't really jump that high. Overall Lorbek would be a great addition, but he won't come here to play 10 minutes a game, so Blair, Bonner or even both need to go. A lineup of Tim, Boris, Tiago and Lorbek would make one of the best frontlines in the NBA.
Mel_13, I would really appreciate it if you can explain in layman's terms how the BAE works under the new CBA. Thanks.
Short answer:Mel_13, I would really appreciate it if you can explain in layman's terms how the BAE works under the new CBA. Thanks.
The Bi-Annual Exception is a small (2 yrs/4M) salary cap exception. Teams may not be more than 4M above the luxury tax line, inclusive of the BAE itself, in order to use the BAE. The BAE may not be used in consecutive seasons.
For future reference, Larry Coon's FAQ is the definitive source for all CBA-related questions. For example, the section on salary cap exceptions can be found here:
http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q25
All the above...
Thanks Mel_13! The BAE comes with some serious handcuffs.... if we use it, it could limit how much we pay TD next year and thus could affect how we prepare for the '13-'14 season, salary-wise. TIMVP had a post where he suggested we could give TD a big contract this next year then pay a much smaller amount in the '13-'14 season to free up $$$ for FA's. Using the BAE this year could throw a serious wrench into any such plan...
Thank you, I appreciate it.
Not really. $2 million per season isn't that big of a deal. In fact, I'm hoping the Spurs can somehow manage to retain Green via their QO, re-sign Diaw with the MLE, use their BAE on Lorbek, trade Blair and / or Neal for a first round pick in a very deep draft to nab a backup PG, and still manage to re-sign Duncan. Obviously that would be rather difficult to do, but I'm hoping the lure of a championship is enough incentive for these players to sign for below their marker value.
why a PG? would rather have them trade & draft for an athletic project big to spend a couple of season in Austin.Thank you, I appreciate it.
Not really. $2 million per season isn't that big of a deal. In fact, I'm hoping the Spurs can somehow manage to retain Green via their QO, re-sign Diaw with the MLE, use their BAE on Lorbek, trade Blair and / or Neal for a first round pick in a very deep draft to nab a backup PG, and still manage to re-sign Duncan. Obviously that would be rather difficult to do, but I'm hoping the lure of a championship is enough incentive for these players to sign for below their marker value.
You don't need a first rounder for that. Project bigs are always available.
Well,
To be fair with S&B, we also don't need to spend another 1st round pick in a backup PG. We already have one to develop and we can always find a vet for cheap that will more reliable than anyone we can find with a late 1st or an early 2nd.
If we get a late 1st or an early 2nd, I prefer to see the Spurs getting a good young Euro prospect and let him develop in Europe. Someone like Furkan for example.
If the kid has high potential (say like Anthony Randolph) but needs alot of developing then i say its worth using a late 1st round pick on. That or a solid SF to play back up to Kawhi.
Even if Lorbek is just the next Matt Bonner, at least there's a chance he might be able to hit shots in the playoffs. Let's do this.
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