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    it wasn't the nba who vetoed the trade after accepting, it was the owner of the hornets.

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    If you are Dell Demps, how do you trade away CP3 for a package that keeps you mediocre? Either keep CP3 and try to win or trade him for pieces you can rebuild with. I mean, damn, at least keep Gasol instead of flipping him for players who might not even be worth their contracts.
    Because if you are Dell Demps, you are from Long Beach?

    By the way, this seems to be missed by many a crying Lakerfan:

    An additional wrinkle surfaced regarding the mechanics of the deal as reported, mainly that New Orleans would not have enough cap space to absorb all of the contracts it would be taking on.
    Further reading in that article suggests that Scola would have to be moved to the Lakers to make the salaries work.

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    Further reading in that article suggests that Scola would have to be moved to the Lakers to make the salaries work.
    Moving Jarret Jack to LA for the Sasha TE would have worked as well.

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    I guess, but implying Demps could operate completely unfettered by ownership doesn't seem realistic.
    Even if he could operate completely unfettered by ownership, can he take on more salary than the team has available for overpaid players? If the Hornets were even allowed to do that under league rules, they'd then be unable to pay for minimum salary players just to fill out the roster, right?

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    Further reading in that article suggests that Scola would have to be moved to the Lakers to make the salaries work.

    I don't know if that one is true or not, but when ALL the details come out, I think we'll see that a lot of people jumped to some pretty stupid conclusions. Especially a bunch of butt-hurt Laker fans.

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    Even if he could operate completely unfettered by ownership, can he take on more salary than the team has available for overpaid players? If the Hornets were even allowed to do that under league rules, they'd then be unable to pay for minimum salary players just to fill out the roster, right?
    Unless something changed, there are always minimum salary exceptions available to fill out a roster.

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    I don't remember this uproar when Clips owner squashed our trade after accepting.
    wat trade was it?

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    The Hornets front office still has not received guidance from the NBA on what their options are with regard to Chris Paul following Thursday's failed trade attempt.

    Can they trade him? Must they watch him walk with nothing to show for it next year? Nobody knows. Of course, the Hornets and other teams in the league had gone to the NBA and asked if GM Dell Demps had the authority to make a trade and were told 'yes.' As for reasons why the trade was declined, some owners are reporting they had no voice on the matter and trade participants have been given no reasons for why it was declined. We could be witnessing a civil war between newer owners and small market owners, and the older, larger market owners who are fed up with the mess. That could be why the NBA has no response to this PR disaster. They simply don't know what to do.

    Source: Adrian Wojnarowski on Twitter

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    Don't know how much this factored into Stern's decision, but the decision to kill this deal saved the integrity of the nba for at least another week. Whether the deal was ultimately fair or not, the reputation of the NBA and the quality of the product would have suffered in the long run.

    Note to superstar players - stop trying to kill the league with the exodus to major market teams for personal gains. Most fans of team sports typically get tired of greed and selfishness among million dollar athletes.

    Besides - the players will make more money in the long run if the league is more compe ive. Please refer to the NFL example for guidance.

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    ehhhh count me in with the people who think that somehow, someway, the Lakers are going to benefit from this recent act.

    Maybe they got breaking news that Chris Paul has a crazy health problem....or they got some other mega deal up and going better than Paul.

    BBall gods always favor those LA heads.

    And I for one was happy to see the Lakers gigantic size advantage disappear.

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    Demps should have operated under the edict of making his team better. This deal has 4 guys from the age of 29-32 changing teams and the best one by far wasn't even going to New Orleans.

    The Laker end of the deal as is was reasonable: Pau and Lamar.

    New Orleans not getting Pau, not getting young talent beyond the retread Dragic, and not getting any lottery picks . . . the deal for them was a bad deal.

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    if there was a proxy vote it be 28-1, the 1 vote is lakers owner favoring a trade...

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    I can't believe the Hornets were about to take this deal. It surely is a hit on NBA's authority to cancel a trade, however, this one is so bad for the Hornets it's unreal and it's not even trade deadline day. Bull either way. NBA is getting on my nerves.

    Still though, can't help but laugh at all the butthurtness

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    So next year the Hornets have a lottery pick and Paul's salary off the books, and really the only thing that keeping Paul for the whole season hurts is the number of ping pong balls they get if he manages to stay healthy. That's a far better deal than having their entire salary cap used up by two undersized power forwards and two tweener guards with no high picks in sight.

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    So next year the Hornets have a lottery pick and Paul's salary off the books, and really the only thing that keeping Paul for the whole season hurts is the number of ping pong balls they get if he manages to stay healthy. That's a far better deal than having their entire salary cap used up by two undersized power forwards and two tweener guards with no high picks in sight.

    agreed hornets get nothing but crap outta that deal

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    So next year the Hornets have a lottery pick and Paul's salary off the books, and really the only thing that keeping Paul for the whole season hurts is the number of ping pong balls they get if he manages to stay healthy. That's a far better deal than having their entire salary cap used up by two undersized power forwards and two tweener guards with no high picks in sight.
    they can always tell him dont bother turnin this season and stay at home, improve the ping pong balls

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    david stern doesnt want kobe winning more rings. Michael jordan was behind all of this. hes scared of kobes greatness.

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    This is playing out like a Hollywood script..

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    david stern doesnt want kobe winning more rings. Michael jordan was behind all of this. hes scared of kobes greatness.
    Kobe's needed so much help it's ridiculous.

    MJ would not be worried at all, he'd be kicking back laughing at a statement like that.

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    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=4upepxz

    trade aproved ;-)

    btw.: Would love to have a picture of david stern popping up, waving the indexfinger, when ever you are trying to trade a player of the Hornets!
    Last edited by mudyez; 12-09-2011 at 06:55 AM.

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    dragic, martin, ariza, scola, okafor...odom 6th man.....thats a pretty decent team even its socialist

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    dragic, martin, ariza, scola, okafor...odom 6th man.....thats a pretty decent team even its socialist
    again: its something like a 6-10 seat in the west...if things go perfect maybe 4-5, but still not with a chance to go anywhere.

    thats just the area you dont want to be in. either compete or bottom out...thats the way it is, especially with small market teams.

    that team doesnt even have a player that would sell tickets.

    and NO would even take on salary!!!

    If rebuilding you want:
    - capspace (they loose it!!!)
    - young talent (goran???...really???)
    - picks (one pitty late firstrounder???)

    Plain stupidity!

    they will only get 75cents on the dollar, but thats like 10cents, if you see the big picture.

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    really? I'm shocked!!!!


    lol

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    Awesome. Now the Spurs can put together a package for him. If they sweeten the package with George Hill I think the Hornets will take it.

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