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    Here's a thought.. in your eyes these are the best teams this season i'm assuming (Clips, Grizz, Thunder, Heat, and Knicks) Now, out of all those teams come playoff time which do you think will still be playing like they are now?? I think alot of you forget that the playoffs slow the game down, and it shows the weaknesses of the (best) teams if they can't adjust to it. By the way, all the (best) teams lately have been showing they can be beaten easier than one thought (clips, grizz, thunder, heat, and knicks).

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    Here's a thought.. in your eyes these are the best teams this season i'm assuming (Clips, Grizz, Thunder, Heat, and Knicks) Now, out of all those teams come playoff time which do you think will still be playing like they are now?? I think alot of you forget that the playoffs slow the game down, and it shows the weaknesses of the (best) teams if they can't adjust to it. By the way, all the (best) teams lately have been showing they can be beaten easier than one thought (clips, grizz, thunder, heat, and knicks).
    wouldnt that same apply to the regular season champs, playoff fodder team spurs?....

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    wouldnt that same apply to the regular season champs, playoff fodder team spurs?....
    Normally it would.

    However, I think both Finals contestants are weaker this year than last, whereas I feel the Spurs are stronger with Duncan's resurgence and Tiago looking like a starter. If you look back in NBA playoff history, teams typically need 3 options that can score in a number of ways. Right now OKC has 2. Miami doesn't need 3 because their big 2 are so dominant, but they do seem to be slower this year, and I'm not sure how much gas Wade has left for the playoffs. , even the Heat last Finals needed some players to step up and hit shots. Not sure they can get that this year.

    I still say that regardless of regular season success, in crunch time, OKC is going to be less suited to get things done than they were last year. Teams playing hard-nosed playoff defense are going to be much more effective with no Harden in the game.

    And don't sleep on Chicago. If Rose comes back that team could easily push Miami to 7 games.

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    Here's a thought.. in your eyes these are the best teams this season i'm assuming (Clips, Grizz, Thunder, Heat, and Knicks) Now, out of all those teams come playoff time which do you think will still be playing like they are now?? I think alot of you forget that the playoffs slow the game down, and it shows the weaknesses of the (best) teams if they can't adjust to it. By the way, all the (best) teams lately have been showing they can be beaten easier than one thought (clips, grizz, thunder, heat, and knicks).
    Someone should have emailed Pop the gameplan because other than the Grizzies, the Spurs haven't fared well against any of them.

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    Normally it would.

    However, I think both Finals contestants are weaker this year than last, whereas I feel the Spurs are stronger with Duncan's resurgence and Tiago looking like a starter. If you look back in NBA playoff history, teams typically need 3 options that can score in a number of ways. Right now OKC has 2. Miami doesn't need 3 because their big 2 are so dominant, but they do seem to be slower this year, and I'm not sure how much gas Wade has left for the playoffs. , even the Heat last Finals needed some players to step up and hit shots. Not sure they can get that this year.

    I still say that regardless of regular season success, in crunch time, OKC is going to be less suited to get things done than they were last year. Teams playing hard-nosed playoff defense are going to be much more effective with no Harden in the game.

    And don't sleep on Chicago. If Rose comes back that team could easily push Miami to 7 games.
    last 2 seasons spurs wouldve won it all....this team was clicking like well oiled machine

    i dont think players not turnin up was a major issue

    it was mainly coachin that cost the spurs...

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    last 2 seasons spurs wouldve won it all....this team was clicking like well oiled machine

    i dont think players not turnin up was a major issue

    it was mainly coachin that cost the spurs...
    Last two seasons our defense has been awful to very average.

    Last two seasons there were a lot more stacked teams in both conferences.

    Look around. Boston is done. The Lakers are not winning anything this year. Chicago MIGHT be good but we only have to beat them or Miami (not easy, but possible). I think the Thunder are weaker and very beatable, Memphis looks like they're falling off a cliff, GSW is still a year or two away. The Clips are struggling with health issues, although I think they're going to be tough come playoff time. If we hold down the 1 seed though it will be great watching OKC and LAC knock each other around for 7 games.

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    Last two seasons our defense has been awful to very average.

    Last two seasons there were a lot more stacked teams in both conferences.

    Look around. Boston is done. The Lakers are not winning anything this year. Chicago MIGHT be good but we only have to beat them or Miami (not easy, but possible). I think the Thunder are weaker and very beatable, Memphis looks like they're falling off a cliff, GSW is still a year or two away. The Clips are struggling with health issues, although I think they're going to be tough come playoff time. If we hold down the 1 seed though it will be great watching OKC and LAC knock each other around for 7 games.
    we wouldve won man, look at the compe ion the contenders in the easts who they played and was gettin pushed to 6-7 games in the first round/ 2nd round by fodder teams for no apparent reason.....spurs were better than any of the team the celts and heat face in the eastern playoffs, let alone whoever they played in the finals...

    coachin rotations and not playing certain players was a huge factor that cost the spurs, the 3 idiots in grey on the sidelines with the jew in the stands didnt help either

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    we wouldve won man, look at the compe ion the contenders in the easts who they played and was gettin pushed to 6-7 games in the first round/ 2nd round by fodder teams for no apparent reason.....spurs were better than any of the team the celts and heat face in the eastern playoffs, let alone whoever they played in the finals...

    coachin rotations and not playing certain players was a huge factor that cost the spurs, the 3 idiots in grey on the sidelines with the jew in the stands didnt help either
    Duncan should have 6 rings now IMO. The 06 Mavs series and last year against OKC were ing criminal. But hey, maybe we'll be good enough this year that it won't matter that Stern is out to screw us. I can only hope.

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    Duncan should have 6 rings now IMO. The 06 Mavs series and last year against OKC were ing criminal. But hey, maybe we'll be good enough this year that it won't matter that Stern is out to screw us. I can only hope.
    06+08 series was lopsided home cooking ive ever seen that the spurs failed to adjust to the bias home cooking that led to their collapse

    it didnt help when pop plays the white flag way to early in the game like fkn first quarter where he just shuts it down and give away a free win to the other team....

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    So the Spurs were playing like a well-oiled machine, and they lost because of coaching.

    How do you suppose the Spurs were playing like a well-oiled machine in the first place?

    Also, the Spurs, since after 2006, shouldn't have won anything. 2007 was actually relatively lucky, there are glaring holes in the Spurs game (lack of perimeter stopper, average interior offense from 2010 to last year), injuries, average defense overall. The Spurs being a contender through all these years speaks to how good the front office, coach, and players are, collectively.

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    So the Spurs were playing like a well-oiled machine, and they lost because of coaching.

    How do you suppose the Spurs were playing like a well-oiled machine in the first place?

    Also, the Spurs, since after 2006, shouldn't have won anything. 2007 was actually relatively lucky, there are glaring holes in the Spurs game (lack of perimeter stopper, average interior offense from 2010 to last year), injuries, average defense overall. The Spurs being a contender through all these years speaks to how good the front office, coach, and players are, collectively.
    if ur winninig alot of games and seeded top3 in the west with top 4 record in the league, if that aint well oiled machine...then what do you call that?

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    if ur winninig alot of games and seeded top3 in the west with top 4 record in the league, if that aint well oiled machine...then what do you call that?
    So how they they get to that stage in the first place? They just some how played into it? What about the other 3 teams with better records, were they well oiled machines as well?

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    So how they they get to that stage in the first place? They just some how played into it? What about the other 3 teams with better records, were they well oiled machines as well?
    so ur downplaying those other 3 teams are pretenders, if they are pretenders why did the spurs lose to them?

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    wouldnt that same apply to the regular season champs, playoff fodder team spurs?....
    First off this thread is about how the Spurs don't fare against the league's (best) So whoever made it is implying the spurs are not playing well at the moment. So who's to say the Spurs don't turn it up come April and the tables are turned...

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    we wouldve won man, look at the compe ion the contenders in the easts who they played and was gettin pushed to 6-7 games in the first round/ 2nd round by fodder teams for no apparent reason.....spurs were better than any of the team the celts and heat face in the eastern playoffs, let alone whoever they played in the finals...

    coachin rotations and not playing certain players was a huge factor that cost the spurs, the 3 idiots in grey on the sidelines with the jew in the stands didnt help either
    last 2 seasons spurs wouldve won it all....this team was clicking like well oiled machine

    i dont think players not turnin up was a major issue

    it was mainly coachin that cost the spurs...
    so ur downplaying those other 3 teams are pretenders, if they are pretenders why did the spurs lose to them?
    It was actually you who were downplaying those other 3 teams. The Spurs would have won? What? Were they destined or something?

    You said the Spurs would have won the last two seasons because they were playing like a well-oiled machine, then what were the three teams with better records playing like? Broken machines?

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    So the Spurs were playing like a well-oiled machine, and they lost because of coaching.

    How do you suppose the Spurs were playing like a well-oiled machine in the first place?

    Also, the Spurs, since after 2006, shouldn't have won anything. 2007 was actually relatively lucky, there are glaring holes in the Spurs game (lack of perimeter stopper, average interior offense from 2010 to last year), injuries, average defense overall. The Spurs being a contender through all these years speaks to how good the front office, coach, and players are, collectively.
    The Spurs definitely got lucky in '07 and you would think that would be the signal to them to reload for the next run. Instead they give Scola away for nothing.

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    For use by the meltdowners in the event that the Spurs go to 0-3 v the Clips tonight.

    You're welcome.

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    Someone should have emailed Pop the gameplan because other than the Grizzies, the Spurs haven't fared well against any of them.
    In the interest of getting out all the facts, many of the games we've played against "good teams" were either very early in the season, or the second night of b2bs and about half of which were on the road too.

    In other words, very difficult to win games. I doubt the Spurs' record against good teams with a day of rest beforehand is poor. And that's what I'd look at, because you always get a day of rest between games in the playoffs unless it's a strike shortended season.

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    In the interest of getting out all the facts, many of the games we've played against "good teams" were either very early in the season, or the second night of b2bs and about half of which were on the road too.

    In other words, very difficult to win games. I doubt the Spurs' record against good teams with a day of rest beforehand is poor. And that's what I'd look at, because you always get a day of rest between games in the playoffs unless it's a strike shortended season.
    The OKC win was the first or second game right (and we were still down 5 or so 1 minute before the end), so our best win doesn't mean much if anything, thanks for pointing that out...

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    Lets see what happens tonight ...

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    The Spurs definitely got lucky in '07 and you would think that would be the signal to them to reload for the next run. Instead they give Scola away for nothing.
    Scola thread!

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    The OKC win was the first or second game right (and we were still down 5 or so 1 minute before the end), so our best win doesn't mean much if anything, thanks for pointing that out...
    Right, that win doesn't mean anything besides the W in the standings. I have the same standards for my own team than I do every other team. I'm not a hypocrite :P I'm glad we got that win, but it didn't mean we were better than the Thunder this year. If we beat them in our next game, then we can talk about it. Though, if it's a b2b, and Manu is hurt, etc etc, then the game won't mean anything if we lose.

    I only take games seriously that aren't part of b2bs, are at least halfway (preferably more) into the season, and the key guys on both teams are healthy. Otherwise, loses in other cir stances don't bother me much, and the wins don't get me too choked up either.

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    Right, that win doesn't mean anything besides the W in the standings. I have the same standards for my own team than I do every other team. I'm not a hypocrite :P I'm glad we got that win, but it didn't mean we were better than the Thunder this year. If we beat them in our next game, then we can talk about it. Though, if it's a b2b, and Manu is hurt, etc etc, then the game won't mean anything if we lose.

    I only take games seriously that aren't part of b2bs, are at least halfway (preferably more) into the season, and the key guys on both teams are healthy. Otherwise, loses in other cir stances don't bother me much, and the wins don't get me too choked up either.
    Good point.... when players are healthy!!! So we really can't use last year as a guide against a team like the Clippers. A hobbled CP3, no Crawford, Bledsoe, Barnes or Odom, and Blake Griffin couldn't knock down a jumpshot. , the Clippers made their move in the offseason. It doesn't help matters when the Clippers D is specifically designed to stop Tony Parker. In two games vs the Clippers, he's scored 4 points and 11 points respectively. If there was ever a need to make a move at the deadline this was it.

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