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    Hopefully one of these teams is the Spurs

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    Obviously, the Spurs are one of the "two other teams besides the Wolves".

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    Hopefully one of these teams is the Spurs
    I seriously doubt it would be for lack of trying!

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    Hopefully one of these teams is the Spurs
    Probably.

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    I don't want to get my hopes up. Damnit. I am.

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    Because it doesn't matter. Okc wants a trade exception. Minny can sign km outright but Okc wants the trade exception in a sign and trade but Minny doesn't want to do a sign and trade. Minny wants to s&t for brewer but Denver doesn't want to. Spurs want to sign and trade for Ak but Minny doesn't want to.
    Right but why not OKC just target AK47 for themselves?

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    Right but why not OKC just target AK47 for themselves?
    They could, but SF/PF isnt their lacking asset. They need shooters and scorers of the bench. SF is Durant PF is Ibaka. Probably not too much room for AK

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    Right but why not OKC just target AK47 for themselves?
    Because 1) they are over the cap. 2) they do not want to go over lux cap. 3) they don't need him as they're set with wings.

    Thy just want the exception for Martin. Minny doesn't have o do that. Any trade would be about getting Brewer.

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    Right but why not OKC just target AK47 for themselves?
    OKC doesn't want to go into luxury tax territory. If they did then they could have just resigned Kevin Martin in the first place. Right now they are about $4M under the tax line.

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    They could, but SF/PF isnt their lacking asset. They need shooters and scorers of the bench. SF is Durant PF is Ibaka. Probably not too much room for AK

    And they might have more of a need for say Neal or Bonner.

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    If Minnesota misses on Brewer would they then settle for the deal for Kirilenko?

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    Right but why not OKC just target AK47 for themselves?
    Unless he took a discount to what he's rumored to be looking for, he'd almost certainly make the Thunder tax payers for the next 2 years (which they've never been willing to do for even 1).

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    I don't think the Spurs are out of it. Maybe via the S&T route, but who knows what Minni will have to do to get both Brewer AND Martin. If AK's rights are renounced, I'm just not sure he'll fetch anything greater than MLE-level money. The Spurs can still cobble together around that amount of cap space by amnestying Bonner and maybe moving a part like Mills' expiring deal for a 2nd round pick.

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    The good news is No news, I mean no news about them renouncing AK47 yet.

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    Does MN have to renounce AK's rights to sign elsewhere? Or can he just do it since he is 'unrestricted', right?

    I'm wondering if it is within the rules for a team (other than MN) under the cap to do a S&T with AK, who then goes to SAS for players, cash, etc.


    I'm wondering do you even need MN to make this happen? I mean, what's the point of being an unrestricted FA if you have to wait for your former employer to renounce you first.


    New at this....

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    Spurs don't really need another foreign softie.
    He is not foreign since he is a US citizen since 2011, it's the softie.
    I can't remember a single big shot in a clutch moment in any game since Euro 2007.
    Even with Russia, in which he is supposed to be the star.
    Plus he has missed at least 15 games in the previous 4 seasons.
    Plus he is 32.
    9 M for 3/4 years for this guy?

    As someone wrote, Spurs FO is not stupid.

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    So basically Denver and OKC are faced with losing a player with no compensation. OKC has no cap space and just $4 million additional salary room. Denver can block the Brewer acquisition though, forcing Minny to play ball there. Why would Denver not want to retain Brewer? They already lost Iggy.

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    I'm wondering if it is within the rules for a team (other than MN) under the cap to do a S&T with AK, who then goes to SAS for players, cash, etc.
    No, that's not possible.

    http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q89

    The player must re-sign with his prior team -- a team cannot include another team's free agent in a sign-and-trade.

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    Right but why not OKC just target AK47 for themselves?
    i believe signing draft picks + mle puts them over the luxury tax

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    So basically Denver and OKC are faced with losing a player with no compensation. OKC has no cap space and just $4 million additional salary room. Denver can block the Brewer acquisition though, forcing Minny to play ball there. Why would Denver not want to retain Brewer? They already lost Iggy.
    because us getting AK is destiny... i guess

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    He is not foreign since he is a US citizen since 2011, it's the softie.
    I can't remember a single big shot in a clutch moment in any game since Euro 2007.
    Even with Russia, in which he is supposed to be the star.
    Plus he has missed at least 15 games in the previous 4 seasons.
    Plus he is 32.
    9 M for 3/4 years for this guy?

    As someone wrote, Spurs FO is not stupid.
    Yes, but $9 million to get one point better buys us a championship. Does that math make more sense?

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    So basically Denver and OKC are faced with losing a player with no compensation. OKC has no cap space and just $4 million additional salary room. Denver can block the Brewer acquisition though, forcing Minny to play ball there. Why would Denver not want to retain Brewer? They already lost Iggy.
    There's always the possibility that brewer doesnt want to come back to denver. So either they let him walk or get something out of it I'm guessing?

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    Flip Saunders is a rookie GM bag. Quit playing games son and make things happen. I'm glad Denver's playing hardball with him. Bull .

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    Better question is why does MN have a hard on for Brewer?? To each his own I guess

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