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The Abysmal, Pathetic Obamacare Rollout
http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...e-rollout.html
Top Conservative Lays Out Obamacare Alternative: Insurers Should Just Charge Really Sick People More
The leader of a top conservative advocacy organization believes that people who are born with congenital illnesses should pay more for health care coverage and rely on family and friends if they can’t afford their medical bills.
Appearing on SiriusXM’s Stand Up with Pete Dominick on Thursday, Dean Clancy — VP of Public Policy at FreedomWorks — insisted that insurers should charge sicker people higher rates so that younger and healthier beneficiaries don’t have to subsidize their coverage.
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013...care-coverage/
The Abysmal, Pathetic Obamacare Rollout
http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...e-rollout.html
CRUZ PLANS TO READ AFFORDABLE CARE ACT
Now that the government shutdown is over, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) plans to read the Affordable Care Act, he told reporters today.
“It’s definitely been on my must-read list for a while now,” Sen. Cruz said of the law often referred to as Obamacare. “Things have just been so hectic around here lately, I couldn’t get to it.”
The Texas Senator said that he started reading the law this morning and observed, “So far, it’s pretty dry.”
“It’s not a page-turner, that’s for sure,” he said. “But it’s caused so much controversy, it must have some pretty juicy stuff in it. I’ll keep reading it and see what I find.”
Sen. Cruz said that when he finishes reading the Affordable Care Act, he plans to read the United States Cons ution.
“People kept bringing it up the last few weeks,” he said. “So I’m kind of curious to see what all the fuss is about.”
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blog...rowitz%20(185)
Looks like Cruz is finally getting on board with socialistic health care
Ah, mystery solved
Thanks MSNBC
<-- lol
And this has what exactly to do with the predictable massive failure of Obamacare?
nothingAnd this has what exactly to do with the predictable massive failure of Obamacare?
Looksl like red states don't privatize/outsource any better than Feds
Food Stamp Outage Highlights Problems With Privatization of Public Services
http://touch.latimes.com/#section/17.../p2p-77835635/
... even for MUCH smaller and MUCH simpler software systems, even when Repug Indiana pays $1B+, nearly 3x what UNDERFUNDED healthcare.gov cost (so far)
Context! Context! Context!
Last edited by boutons_deux; 10-19-2013 at 08:08 AM.
The non-ACA numbers on that chart are made up bull . To be precise the Heritage Health Microsimulation Model uses 'weighted averages' which translates into real numbers multiplied by made up coefficients.
http://www.heritage.org/multimedia/i...care-exchanges
Wow, 27 year olds are really getting hosed. I wonder how they feel now having voted for the first black President because they thought it would be cool.
It is foolish to look to Heritage now that DeMint has taken over. They are intellectually dishonest so as to push ideology now.
And here's Hannity outright LYING about ACA
Fox News Coverage Of Obamacare Was Extremely Misleading
“These are the stories that the media refuses to cover,” Hannity interjected.
But none of it smelled right to me. Nothing these folks were saying jibed with the basic facts of the Affordable Care Act as I understand them. I understand them fairly well; I have worked as a senior adviser to a governor and helped him deal with the new federal rules.
(six Hannity stories checked on here ... )
I don’t doubt that these six individuals believe that Obamacare is a disaster; but none of them had even visited the insurance exchange.
And some of them appear to have taken actions (Paul Cox, for example) based on a general pessimistic belief about Obamacare. He’s certainly en led to do so, but Hannity is not en led to point to Paul’s behavior as an “Obamacare train wreck story” and maintain any credibility that he might have as a journalist.
http://www.alternet.org/media/fox-ne...age=1#bookmark
Last edited by boutons_deux; 10-19-2013 at 08:09 AM.
Seriously...do you think they will have it working before January 1?
What if it doesn't?
Actually the "before" price they quote is higher than what I am paying. They are quoting the non group market, which is very affordable if you are healthy. Group plans are much more expensive because you have to pay for all the fat asses who are going to need tons of healthcare.
To be covered starting 1 Jan, ya gotta make your first payment by 15 Dec.
If they don't get healthcare.gov running mostly smoothly by 15 Nov, I think they will slip both 15 Dec and 1 Jan by 1 month.
open source:
https://www.healthcare.gov/developers/
Last edited by boutons_deux; 10-19-2013 at 08:10 AM.
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States Are Focus of Effort to Foil Health Care Law
here in Virginia’s capital, conservative activists are pursuing a hardball campaign as they chart an alternative path to undoing “Obamacare” — through the states.
One leading target is Emmett W. Hanger Jr., a Republican state senator from the deeply conservative Shenandoah Valley,
His openness to expansion has aroused the ire of Americans for Prosperity, the conservative advocacy group backed by the billionaire industrialist brothers Charles and David Koch. Dressed in emerald green T-shirts bearing the slogan “Economic Freedom in Action!” its members are waging what the senator calls “an attempt to intimidate me” in Richmond and at home.
They have phoned his cons uents, distributed leaflets and knocked on 2,000 doors in his rural district. When the Republican town committee met Monday night in Mr. Hanger’s home county, Augusta, Americans for Prosperity was there.
“This has been one of those trench warfare kind of efforts for a year now, and I think it is one of those hidden stories of the whole fight against Obamacare,” such a crucial aspect of the overall long-term effort to roll back Obamacare.”
Jim DeMint, the foundation president, made no apologies. “Obamacare will now be the issue for the next few years,”
Americans for Prosperity, with paid staff members in 34 states, walked through it. So did another group, Tea Party Patriots, which recently gave $20,000 to organizers of a referendum drive to put the question of Medicaid expansion on the Arizona ballot.
Americans for Prosperity has spent millions in states around the country, including Arkansas, Florida, Ohio, Louisiana, Michigan and Pennsylvania, to run the kind of aggressive campaign that it is now waging here in Virginia, where much will depend on the governor’s race.
must evaluate whether the state Medicaid program has put in place certain changes to improve care and cut costs.
“It makes absolutely no sense to not utilize those federal dollars when we have this unmet need.” ....
“The folks that need the most help will get hurt the most if you expand Medicaid,” Mr. Schwartz told the panel on Tuesday.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/10/19/us/politics/states-are-focus-of-effort-to-foil-health-care-law.html?from=homepage
While I cannot say your personal anecdote is irrelevant, it is just an anecdote. That the figure is higher is not surprising though.
They are not quoting from the nongroup market. What they are doing is taking averages from the nongroup market --and what exactly they are averaging is unknown-- and then multiplying them by coefficients. That is what the Heritage Health Microsimulation Model does.
If you want to know what those coefficients are then good luck because I tried to look up the formula and could not find it. They are doctored numbers plain and simple and the Heritage Foundation under DeMint has shown a proclivity to omitting, overemphasize, and everything inbtween data to fit their ideology. When they are getting hammered by the Cato Ins ute for it too you know it is not just a partisan criticism.
ing with immigration numbers: http://business.time.com/2013/05/10/...ration-debate/
ing with polling numbers: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/heri...olling-numbers
ing with economic figures: http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2013/06...p-its-numbers/
Those are examples from the first page of a google search.
The current incarnation of Heritage is heavy on deception.
The Obama administration said Sunday it has called in technical experts to help squash some of the biggest glitches and snafus experienced by millions of Americans with the new Healthcare.gov website.
Experts will be scrambled in to rewrite parts of the site's code and underlying infrastructure which has dogged the site, created under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (dubbed "Obamacare").
The "tech surge," as described by the HHS blog post, will see "some of the best and brightest from both inside and outside government to scrub in with the team" in efforts to improve the site.
http://www.zdnet.com/obama-dubs-heal...e539&ttag=e539
Last edited by boutons_deux; 10-21-2013 at 10:14 AM.
"tech surge"
They'll fix it, almost 20M visitors already (sure, some dupes). people (America) really need the insurance, preventative care, early care vs ER disaster.
a much bigger threat to ACA is the red states sabotaging ACA and reducing the insured pool by refusing to expand Medicaid and implement ACA.
The real story with Obamacare IT woes is out-of-control private contractors
there are other culprits getting less attention – namely, global tech conglomerate CGI, which was responsible for the bulk of the execution, and in general the ability of big corporations to get massive taxpayer-funded contracts without enough accountability.
Government outsourcing to private contractors has exploded in the past few decades. Taxpayers funnel hundreds of billions of dollars a year into the chosen companies’ pockets, about $80bn of which goes to tech companies. We’ve reached a stage of knee-jerk outsourcing of everything from intelligence and military work to burger flipping in federal building cafeterias, and it’s damaging in multiple levels.
studies show that keeping government services in house saves money. In fact, contractor billing rates average an astonishing 83% more than what it would cost to do the work in-house. Hiring workers directly also keeps jobs here in the US, while contractors, especially in the IT space, can ship taxpayer-funded work overseas.
Fortunately, then, there are alternatives to outsourcing public functions to big corporations padding their profits at taxpayers’ collective expense, and it is time we used them.
To this end the Healthcare.gov experience should serve as a wake-up call to President Obama, who, after all, said early in his first term he wanted to rein in the contractor-industrial complex, and to the state governments doling out multi-million dollar contracts. The revelation here is that an overdependence on outsourcing isn’t just risky in terms of national security, extortionate at wartime, or harmful because it expands the ranks of low-wage workers; it’s also messing with our ability to carry out basic government functions at a reasonable cost.
Like many contractors, CGI got an open-ended deal from the government, and costs have ballooned even as performance has been abysmal. The company – the largest tech company in Canada with subsidiaries around the world – was initially awarded a $93.7m contract, but now the potential total value for CGI’s work has reportedly tripled, reaching nearly $292m.
For other recent examples, one need only look at the botched, taxpayer-funded overhauls of the Massachusetts, Florida and California unemployment systems, courtesy of Deloitte.
In Massachusetts alone, professional services giant Deloitte got $46m to roll out a new electronic system for unemployment claims. The company, whose private-sector whippersnappers were expected to lap the crusty bureaucrats the state employs directly, delivered the project two years late and $6m over budget. On top of that, the system has forced jobless residents to wait weeks to months to collect benefits.
the rollouts in Florida and California, which each cost about $63m, can only be described as train wrecks: late, over budget and riddled with glitches that delayed payments to the jobless.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/2...e-contractors/
So for-profit private companies are ALWAYS cheaper and better than in-house govt projects?
And there's plenty of examples over the decades with MIC.
Another red state gets smart, goes PROGRESSIVE
Ohio Will Expand Medicaid Under Obamacare, Extending Health Coverage To Nearly 300,000 Residents
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013...aid-obamacare/
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